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debears
United States2516 Posts
On February 15 2013 11:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Oh my. DEBEARS. why are you so slow? Cuz I'm thorough. I have a good idea where to head for the next lynch. I have to look at the 2 candidates for this lynch closer. And I'm on a bus ride reading fro. Phone :/ | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
I found his play thru his targets (djo), activity (not engaged, late entrance), and substance (some posts in there serve no purpose while looking like they do so) | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
His play scu. Oriented | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
I think all the nominees are town. I really do. I'll be defending whoever is alive out of us for tomorrow unless there is a reasonable body of evidence. And no, "that would be a sick scum play" is not a good reason, because possibility =/= reality. If it is what people are speculating it is, there should be evidence for it beyond "these things fit in nicely", because "they are actually town, you are being paranoid and scum is elsewhere" fits just as well, if not better. So less speculating, more research, more evidence, more cases. That said, as much as it sucks, I'm going to vote off Mocsta again. It sucks because he is putting in lots of effort etc. I'm voting him because if he is alive tomorrow, I find him to be a highly potential mislynch candidate (much more so than Mr. Cheesecake), so it's better to "use him up" during these even cycles when a townie has to die. ##Vote: Mocsta prplhz, could I have a bit more detailed explanation on your townish read on phagga? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
That doesnt make sense... if I am town, why am I going to be voted off next cycle. If you are going to vote your "so-called" townie; cut the bullshit; be a man; and give the real reason. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
My preference is Mocsta because he's overall a worse player and is acting very scummy with regards to how he has responded to my speculative posts about the possibility of him/sloosh/jay being mafia. To call me mafia in reaction with no justification after jumping OFF my wagon and watching the SCUM I wanted to die get lynched, is a bit more than I care to explain away with "stupid town" at the moment. However, I cannot deny that there are town tells in his filter that have previously influenced my read, so I'm left at a crossroads with a very unclear plan of action to go forward unless I see him die. I no longer think that sloosh and mocsta are both mafia, but I consider the possibility quite strong that at least one of them might be, because of how I view the nominations. Perhaps they aren't as important as I want them to be, however, because everyone else seems to be content with the idea of it being three town players, so that probably means I'm just being really stupid, because I am honestly one of the worst players in this regard; I fall for conspiracy theories all the time. Idk. It's 1 AM, I've had a horrid day at work, and I come back to find myself at a loss of what to do right now. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
What about the post I made has certain scum written on it? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Your posting yesterday was flame hard, and burying posts. Thats typical scum play; and further to that, you have only exhibited that type of behaviour when under the pump. You know whats funny; everyone saying how great a player sl0osh is.. even he said it as a criteria for his nomination Day1. Yet, what has he actually done this game?
I said before, Mr.CC was my weakest read out of my scum reads. When I look through him tonight, I am also going to look through sl0osh; cos that guy has been fuckn blendy too. Quick summary of sl0osh over multiple days
All townies dream of having that control in their play (to give up a false read); but who actually does it without much resistance? The answer? + Show Spoiler + No One Yet sl0osh has already done this behaviour multiple times. Theres some food for thought. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I don't even know how you can view what I was doing as "burying", which is nearly impossible to prove anyway | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
i did not think the content was beneficial either. I thought the above so strongly; I felt the need to repost a couple of my posts. I took it as burying with that context. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 15 2013 16:42 Mocsta wrote: consider this.. all your posts were short, aggressive, and in my opinion flaming emotion.; i did not think the content was beneficial either. I thought the above so strongly; I felt the need to repost a couple of my posts. I took it as burying with that context. Why would I care about burying posts where all you do in them is call me mafia with ZERO justification aside from blatant OMGUS. Even still, you claim to have come to this point on some basis that I was likely mafia before, so how did you reach that conclusion when yesterday you made a point of unvoting me? It makes no sense. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
just means you find someone scummier do we really need to go over the basics? Anyways, what do you think of what I said about sl0osh above>? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On February 15 2013 16:55 yamato77 wrote: I suppose I just plain don't understand why you view me as mafia at all, despite my attempts to try. I think I have stated this before. Day1, your case on me was crap so I thought you was mafia and couldnt make a case with conviction. My other problem was, when I made the counter case; you refused to go through it. - As town I have done this before as well (but only when the case is terrible; and I dont think my case was that terrible given the knowledge I had) Your play throughout nominations Day2 made me have a good read on you. Then when jay made a case on you; you reacted EXACTLY the same way as when I made a case on you. I find it hard to believe a town would deflect two cases off them like this.. regardless of how shit they thought it was. I raised this point to you several times; and you ignore it each time. That is the crux of what I find scummy about you: You refuse to refute any claims of you being scummy. If you are town, you would have no reason to deflect this. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
It's a laborious process that I used to do when I debated, and I don't enjoy it anymore. I want concise arguments that get to the real crux of the matter, because that's how I tend to post, and that's how I like to respond. Really, it's about HOW each of you reacted to the pressure I put on you that made me view you as town. You both took it very seriously that I was mafia for being so misleading in my accusations that I think it difficult to fake as mafia. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Could have resolved our differences yesterday instead. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On February 15 2013 13:57 slOosh wrote: Alright, Friday / weekends tend to escape me (a la last week) so I want to do this just in case I can't make it until deadline. I think all the nominees are town. I really do. I'll be defending whoever is alive out of us for tomorrow unless there is a reasonable body of evidence. And no, "that would be a sick scum play" is not a good reason, because possibility =/= reality. If it is what people are speculating it is, there should be evidence for it beyond "these things fit in nicely", because "they are actually town, you are being paranoid and scum is elsewhere" fits just as well, if not better. So less speculating, more research, more evidence, more cases. That said, as much as it sucks, I'm going to vote off Mocsta again. It sucks because he is putting in lots of effort etc. I'm voting him because if he is alive tomorrow, I find him to be a highly potential mislynch candidate (much more so than Mr. Cheesecake), so it's better to "use him up" during these even cycles when a townie has to die. ##Vote: Mocsta prplhz, could I have a bit more detailed explanation on your townish read on phagga? WHAT? There are several people who have me, prplhz and jay as solid scumreads, and you are worried that Mocsta will be misslynched? What's the basis for this? On February 14 2013 23:48 phagga wrote: Mocsta, Sloosh: Do you guys see the possibility that Cheese did indeed bus snarfs, but that VE is actually town? Why/why not? VE: What is your read on sloosh is, currently. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Lets just sheep Palmar :D On February 10 2013 21:57 Palmar wrote: Anyway, I think yamato, prplhz, snarfs, phagga, visceraeyes and cheesecake should be in the initial round of scum. I guess VE should not be strongly considered in this group unless I'm wrong about prplhz, but who knows. I'm fairly certain 2-4 of those players are scum. This leaves the group of me, mochsta, JX, oat, jay, djodref and sloosh as most likely 5-7 townies. jay and djodref are the ones I like the least. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mr CheeseCake | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Let's actually read Palmars post before we blindly sheep him :D On February 10 2013 21:57 Palmar wrote: I think you guys should lynch a few people, but should I flip I want you guys to not forget that however good you think my scumreads are, any mediocre player with updated reads is more valuable than a dead great player with his old reads. Not to mention I'm not invested far enough into this game to actually consider my reads worth too much. | ||
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