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Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:27 GMT
#752
Hey guys, I'm here from now until deadline, just working on some homework on the side.

I haven't had a time to go back over JX's games, but I'm in the same boat as Palmar. Just from a cursory glance, I don't see anything scum-motivated.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:36 GMT
#758
On February 08 2013 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:27 Snarfs wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here from now until deadline, just working on some homework on the side.

I haven't had a time to go back over JX's games, but I'm in the same boat as Palmar. Just from a cursory glance, I don't see anything scum-motivated.


I like how you literally just said you're in the same boat as someone who's not even playing the game.

You're spinning my words to make it sound how you want it to sound. That's scummy. You're scum.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:43 GMT
#760
There's a difference between what someone "literally says" and what someone means. I meant that I agreed with Palmar's stance on JX and I would assume that's how most players would interpret it.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:53 GMT
#764
On February 08 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:36 Snarfs wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:27 Snarfs wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here from now until deadline, just working on some homework on the side.

I haven't had a time to go back over JX's games, but I'm in the same boat as Palmar. Just from a cursory glance, I don't see anything scum-motivated.


I like how you literally just said you're in the same boat as someone who's not even playing the game.

You're spinning my words to make it sound how you want it to sound. That's scummy. You're scum.

Please explain to me the two things from JX, and how they are town-motivated or NOT alignment indicative.

(1)
His first post = a case on Mocsta. Specifically the focus of the case being pre-game commentary.

He could have believed Mocsta was scum? He follows up by comparing your meta. And he tries to question you on your apparent change in meta. There's no scum motive here.
Btw Mocsta what happened to the level headed guy I knew? You're yelling at oats like Vivax



(2)
Last night when he becamse active, starts questioning Djo motives (multiple times)
Then picks onto grammar issues with reads on Oats (and completely misinterprets the commentary) again multiple times
Once I threw some doubt onto Palmar, he immediately bandwagons the vote. with "I agree"
Proceeds to make the 180' case on Oats; which is really alignment null for Oats.. im still surprised prplhz jumped all over him for that.
Once I put the limelight back on JX, he disappears (him, me, Djo, Oats are all the same timezone btw)

Im not seeing how all those points are town/alignment null indicators, so I am keen for your insight.
(because of top of those actions, you have the meta case on him from Yamato)

Bad town explains all those things. In fact, you pointing it out makes it sound even more like bad town. Why would scum call someone out for something as dumb as that? Why would scum make a complete 180 and draw a bunch of attention to themselves?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:56 GMT
#765
On February 08 2013 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Snarfs, you havent actually linked VE's meta in this game to his meta in his scum game. Care to do so? Or you just want to tunnel him to oblivion.
Have your read changed since your vote?
Since VE isnt gonna get lynched today, Snarfs, are you gonna waste your vote?

I've tried to make myself as clear as possible in linking VE's meta to this game. I think that some other people who have played with VE in the past are also picking up on it so I feel like I'm finally starting to make my point.

And I think JX is gonna get lynched either way.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:58 GMT
#767
On February 08 2013 10:46 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:43 Snarfs wrote:
There's a difference between what someone "literally says" and what someone means. I meant that I agreed with Palmar's stance on JX and I would assume that's how most players would interpret it.

Snarfs, I think to promote good town atmosphere we need to avoid taking this easy stances without justification.

This to me is no different than "sheeping" and is not helping me discern you as town or scum.

Please, if you agree with someones rational, at least point out why.

Because he hasn't done anything with scum motive. I don't know how else to explain it besides in that last post addressing your questions. Everything could be explained by some form of bad town.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 02:11 GMT
#778
On February 08 2013 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Snarfs, I DONT SEE THE META LINK.
I see you posting 2 games, 1 of which he is town and 1 of which is scum. I dont see how you linked the scum game to this game. All I did was to see the differences in those games.

The link is that he's playing more like the scum game than the town game. It's in the way he pushes and tries to get information from people.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 02:12 GMT
#781
Oats, tell me what you think of VE.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 02:16 GMT
#785
On February 08 2013 11:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think VE is town at this point actually.

Also, you tried to sheep Palmar in an effort to look good.
Even though Palmar hasnt actually played the game, and you have, and you did exactly NOTHING with your thinking that JX is town

Could you expand on WHY you think he's town?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 02:23 GMT
#787
What other point?

And really, what is with this whole "not explaining town reads" stuff? I'm fairly certain scum made that up ages ago so that they wouldn't have to give out reads.

Seriously, why is VE town? I am damn near convinced that he isn't. Like, if I had another gun tonight I'd shoot him again. So please, tell me why he is town.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 02:33 GMT
#789
a) Half-hearted attempt at lynching Palmar
b) Dissonant vote on prplhz while still wanting to kill Palmar
c) Half-hearted switch to JieXian
d) Wishy-washy statements about other players
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 08 2013 02:35 GMT
#790
I'm sorry but I really need to get this project done before tomorrow. Feel free to tell me which of those you aren't seeing or, you know, tell me why he's town and I'll respond when I get back on tomorrow. I have a feeling we'll have plenty more time to talk about VE and he'll post more and eventually screw up enough that everyone else can see it.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 01:17 GMT
#870
No matter who gets picked, I really don't want to see anyone WIFOMing about why it happened. The lynch choice has to be whoever is most likely to be scum, or least likely to be town. The worst thing that can happen to this town is to waste time trying to guess why scum would pick whoever they end up picking.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 01:43 GMT
#872
On February 09 2013 10:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
wow Snarfs, what a new and exciting concept. Thank you for this revelation.

So I take it I can hold you to not WIFOMing about anything for the rest of the game, or else your scum? Noted.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#873
On February 08 2013 22:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Up... I'll say that 3 town picks are likely but not guaranteed in the slightest. One scum could easily be in there. Either way, do not succumb to WIFOM and lynch someone just because they were / were not in the nomination. Just lynch the scummiest person who is nominated so we don't have to deal with them on a normal day. This is a distinct advantage for us because we purge the town of the scummiest person (within nominations) instead of scum killing the towniest of townies.

Anyways, I'll be around for a while if y'alls has les questions. Gonna prep some stuff for the following day.

Ah, I see you said the same thing. I need more sleep.

I just know that as soon as the list is posted there's going to be a bunch of people coming in here trying to determine WHY some people were chosen, and as long as ONE town does it, it's okay for scum to do it as well which fucks everything up. So I don't mind reiterating the point at all.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 02:44 GMT
#878
Guess we'll finally be seeing some action from Palmar.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 03:04 GMT
#887
##Vote Palmar

Scummiest so far.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 03:10 GMT
#890
On February 09 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Snarfs, what do you hope to achieve with your vote? The candidates havent even shown up yet

I hope to get Palmar in the thread telling us why prplhz is scum despite the arguments to the contrary on day 1.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 03:16 GMT
#892
Hell, if he's town, the best thing everyone could do is pile their votes on him and force him to care. I know it sounds crazy but think about it. Everyone knows what I was saying all day 1. Town Palmar rapes scum. However, sometimes Palmar shows a distinct lack of care for games. We can force him to care by voting him, because he knows that otherwise he isn't playing to his win condition. If he's town and he doesn't have time to play and people are voting him, he'll replace out, because he cares.

Yes, I have the utmost respect for Palmar; however, inactive Palmar is just frustrating .

I might be drunk though, so if this sounds way too crazy, please call me out on it haha
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 09 2013 03:17 GMT
#893
And if he's scum, he just dies
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