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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 03:22 GMT
#1281
On January 30 2013 12:05 iamperfection wrote:
im not seeing this being a huge point djo. hapa replacde pretty early and im sure if he had saw the vote post by thrawn he would have voted for him.

i believe hapa had already stopped posting before i threw out the first vote on thrawn.


What about the post where he places ghost and thrawn inactivity at the same level ?
"Ghost+thrawn lurking annoys me"
Seriously ? Annoying ? Town Hapa kills lurker with fire. Moreover:
-ghost being inactive matches his town activity in Witchcraft (Hapa was in this game).
-thrawn being inactive means thrawn is scum (Hapa was in his scumteam in Mario Mini Mafia, maybe he has read LVIII).
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 30 2013 03:42 GMT
#1282
Your case on hapa and his replacement hapa 2.0 is lacking.

Hapa saw thrawn lurking and was commentating on it and making his reads known. Then he had to get replaced. What do you think the next logical step woould be for town hapa if he didn't get replaced. To vote thrawn.

Your case is pretty weak. Go make a new one or find actual scum.

@Ziggler Sharrant or JX i keep waffling between the two. They have different play styles but I don't like there lurkiness.

What's your thoughts on who we should lynch.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 03:59 GMT
#1283
On January 30 2013 12:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Your case on hapa and his replacement hapa 2.0 is lacking.

Hapa saw thrawn lurking and was commentating on it and making his reads known. Then he had to get replaced. What do you think the next logical step woould be for town hapa if he didn't get replaced. To vote thrawn.

Your case is pretty weak. Go make a new one or find actual scum.

@Ziggler Sharrant or JX i keep waffling between the two. They have different play styles but I don't like there lurkiness.

What's your thoughts on who we should lynch.


How do you know what Hapa would have done or not ?
You shouldn't be concerned about defending my case against Hapa because you are not in a position to do so.
I'm pushing your lynch for the moment. Present better cases against your targets and I might change my mind.

Also I would like to know if you have any alternative ideas for the scum players ? There are still two of them...
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 30 2013 04:15 GMT
#1284
On January 30 2013 12:59 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 12:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Your case on hapa and his replacement hapa 2.0 is lacking.

Hapa saw thrawn lurking and was commentating on it and making his reads known. Then he had to get replaced. What do you think the next logical step woould be for town hapa if he didn't get replaced. To vote thrawn.

Your case is pretty weak. Go make a new one or find actual scum.

@Ziggler Sharrant or JX i keep waffling between the two. They have different play styles but I don't like there lurkiness.

What's your thoughts on who we should lynch.


How do you know what Hapa would have done or not ?
You shouldn't be concerned about defending my case against Hapa because you are not in a position to do so.
I'm pushing your lynch for the moment. Present better cases against your targets and I might change my mind.

Also I would like to know if you have any alternative ideas for the scum players ? There are still two of them...

Are you fucking kidding me. I have information that lets me know hapa's motives. Namly I know hapa is town. Me and hapa are the same entity for all intensive purposes. So i plan to defend my self against your shitty case. ALso your case doesnt have anything about me in it. Why not?

I said who I want to push. And I have also given two names. I don't have great cases on the people i posted. The biggest reason im pushing them is gut read/ they are lurking. Is it ideal no but its what i got. WHen i have a good case ill post it
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
January 30 2013 04:29 GMT
#1285
Jay, I'm really disliking your play. You had me as a full blown scum read earlier. Then you started pussyfooting around it, saying JX was scummier. Then you moved me to solely "lurking". I understand that IamPerfection having a town read on me while you have a town read on him is going to change your view of me, but please show some of these scummy things. Your posts right now are looking like they're just there to look like you're doing something.

You're pushing two lurkers right now, I do think JX has about a 50% chance to flip scum, probably even a little higher than that. And I can tell you that I am town, so you better get another read in there. Hell, imagine I've already flipped and come up green, who are your two scum reads?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 30 2013 05:10 GMT
#1286
On January 30 2013 13:29 Sharrant wrote:
Jay, I'm really disliking your play. You had me as a full blown scum read earlier. Then you started pussyfooting around it, saying JX was scummier. Then you moved me to solely "lurking". I understand that IamPerfection having a town read on me while you have a town read on him is going to change your view of me, but please show some of these scummy things. Your posts right now are looking like they're just there to look like you're doing something.

You're pushing two lurkers right now, I do think JX has about a 50% chance to flip scum, probably even a little higher than that. And I can tell you that I am town, so you better get another read in there. Hell, imagine I've already flipped and come up green, who are your two scum reads?

I think you both are scummy. However the one that is scummier and should be lynched today is the part that im having trouble with. I find nothing wrong with reevaluating my reads based on what i read in in the filter or based off other peoples opinion's

In the end I will consolidate on the wagon I think is mostly likely to flip scum.

In the event that you flip green then on to lynch JX. I dont feel comfortable lynching anyone else.

Out of the claimed roles we have

Lamp-Townie
xsksc-green checked
Prom-Null
EZ-Null
JX-Scummy
Sharrant-Scummy

If Sharrant and JX dont flip red then i would move on to my null reads while constantly changed my reads based on there posts.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 05:38 GMT
#1287
Hey Jay. This is supersoft.
You better stop insulting wbg and calling his reads bad.
Since I have an insanely high rate of finding scum, I approve his vote.
Now you can abolish this strategy of OMGUSing everyone who votes you and try to defend you reasonably.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 30 2013 05:44 GMT
#1288
I'm not lurking, I'm from Malaysia (GMT +8) the other side of the planet. I'm posting this while skimming and having my lunch and I'll read the thread more carefully and make some proper posts when I get back in a few hours. There are some attacks on me and I can address them very easily.

Vivax claims DT again? I'm not surprised at all. He did it in both of the games I've been with him. First time he lied and got lynched that day, 2nd time he caught scum and was probably telling the truth. I'll address it later.

I don't like Yamato's lack of activity but Prom seems to have some meta read on him?

Vivax, show me my "case" against prom

Who is Ziggler?
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 05:54 GMT
#1289
On January 30 2013 14:44 JieXian wrote:
I'm not lurking, I'm from Malaysia (GMT +8) the other side of the planet. I'm posting this while skimming and having my lunch and I'll read the thread more carefully and make some proper posts when I get back in a few hours. There are some attacks on me and I can address them very easily.

Vivax claims DT again? I'm not surprised at all. He did it in both of the games I've been with him. First time he lied and got lynched that day, 2nd time he caught scum and was probably telling the truth. I'll address it later.

I don't like Yamato's lack of activity but Prom seems to have some meta read on him?

Vivax, show me my "case" against prom

Who is Ziggler?


Jay is calling iamp Ziggler. So iamp is Ziggler.
Could you please be more active ? I missed you yesterday night... (we have almost the same evenings and nights )
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 06:12 GMT
#1290
On January 28 2013 19:47 JieXian wrote:
I'm comfortable with the choices but I'd prefer for Djo to shoot whoever he wants so that he can take responsibility for it. Now he can just blame anyone if ghost/anyone he shoots happens to be a townie. Actually if he's SK why isn't this a nice chance to be confirmed vig and not shoot again?

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 17:12 supersoft wrote:
NOOOOOO FUCK!


I called it! I saw signs of a german writing in English!
[27/01/2013 11:42:51 PM] JieXiannn: wth
[27/01/2013 11:42:55 PM] JieXiannn: emile ist supersoft/

I find it extremely irritating how him smurfing allows him to restart from a blank sheet. That "leak" could very well be timed when Djo was thinking about shooting him.

Since I have no history with him, can anyone brief me about supersoft? Is he a vet? good mafia? good townie?

Thanks for the link


I still have a problem with that...
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 06:16 GMT
#1291
On January 30 2013 14:10 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 13:29 Sharrant wrote:
Jay, I'm really disliking your play. You had me as a full blown scum read earlier. Then you started pussyfooting around it, saying JX was scummier. Then you moved me to solely "lurking". I understand that IamPerfection having a town read on me while you have a town read on him is going to change your view of me, but please show some of these scummy things. Your posts right now are looking like they're just there to look like you're doing something.

You're pushing two lurkers right now, I do think JX has about a 50% chance to flip scum, probably even a little higher than that. And I can tell you that I am town, so you better get another read in there. Hell, imagine I've already flipped and come up green, who are your two scum reads?

I think you both are scummy. However the one that is scummier and should be lynched today is the part that im having trouble with. I find nothing wrong with reevaluating my reads based on what i read in in the filter or based off other peoples opinion's

In the end I will consolidate on the wagon I think is mostly likely to flip scum.

In the event that you flip green then on to lynch JX. I dont feel comfortable lynching anyone else.

Out of the claimed roles we have

Lamp-Townie
xsksc-green checked
Prom-Null
EZ-Null
JX-Scummy
Sharrant-Scummy

If Sharrant and JX dont flip red then i would move on to my null reads while constantly changed my reads based on there posts.


and could you please explain your JX read? Go into detail please.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
January 30 2013 06:47 GMT
#1292
On January 30 2013 14:10 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 13:29 Sharrant wrote:
Jay, I'm really disliking your play. You had me as a full blown scum read earlier. Then you started pussyfooting around it, saying JX was scummier. Then you moved me to solely "lurking". I understand that IamPerfection having a town read on me while you have a town read on him is going to change your view of me, but please show some of these scummy things. Your posts right now are looking like they're just there to look like you're doing something.

You're pushing two lurkers right now, I do think JX has about a 50% chance to flip scum, probably even a little higher than that. And I can tell you that I am town, so you better get another read in there. Hell, imagine I've already flipped and come up green, who are your two scum reads?

I think you both are scummy. However the one that is scummier and should be lynched today is the part that im having trouble with. I find nothing wrong with reevaluating my reads based on what i read in in the filter or based off other peoples opinion's

In the end I will consolidate on the wagon I think is mostly likely to flip scum.

In the event that you flip green then on to lynch JX. I dont feel comfortable lynching anyone else.

Out of the claimed roles we have

Lamp-Townie
xsksc-green checked
Prom-Null
EZ-Null
JX-Scummy
Sharrant-Scummy

If Sharrant and JX dont flip red then i would move on to my null reads while constantly changed my reads based on there posts.


I want a read. You can give me a single read, and that's perfectly fine. I just want a read, on anyone. I would love for you to give me reads on myself, JX, and Prom. That'd be fantastic. What I don't want is another list or fluff post from you.

@Everyone
Is this normal for Jay? He seems to really be avoiding saying anything, and is just resorting to list posts to fill in the gaps. I asked him to show me something scummy, and he just posted the same list again but slightly larger.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 06:52 GMT
#1293
Sharrant, you still think Prom and I are scum together?
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EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 07:12 GMT
#1294
wbg here;

anyone else find it weird that Sharrant finds jay scummy for thinking JX is scum, despite he himself saying JX has a greater than 50% chance to flip scum?
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
January 30 2013 07:17 GMT
#1295
@WBG I don't find him scummy for thinking JX is scum, I'm not sure how you got that. I find him scummy for posting lists and just going "scum" and not seeming to do any leg work.

@SS
I'm not particularly convinced on that one, it was just something I thought was interesting enough to bring up. I'm not interested in lynching either of you today, don't get me wrong there. I think there's better targets like JieXian and Jay unless he starts posting reads instead of lists. If you and Prome are scum together then I believe it will show as we get closer to the end game, so it's not a theory I'm willing to test yet.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 07:29 GMT
#1296
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548&user=279649

is this your only game?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 30 2013 09:28 GMT
#1297
On January 30 2013 15:12 EmileZola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 19:47 JieXian wrote:
I'm comfortable with the choices but I'd prefer for Djo to shoot whoever he wants so that he can take responsibility for it. Now he can just blame anyone if ghost/anyone he shoots happens to be a townie. Actually if he's SK why isn't this a nice chance to be confirmed vig and not shoot again?

On January 28 2013 17:12 supersoft wrote:
NOOOOOO FUCK!


I called it! I saw signs of a german writing in English!
[27/01/2013 11:42:51 PM] JieXiannn: wth
[27/01/2013 11:42:55 PM] JieXiannn: emile ist supersoft/

I find it extremely irritating how him smurfing allows him to restart from a blank sheet. That "leak" could very well be timed when Djo was thinking about shooting him.

Since I have no history with him, can anyone brief me about supersoft? Is he a vet? good mafia? good townie?

Thanks for the link


I still have a problem with that...


With what? how are you expecting me to address your points if you're being vague?

You seem to think Djo may be using a gambit as SK too.

Yes, smurfing made everyone hesitant to vote/shoot you.

I don't know supersoft but I know it's a German guy writing.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 30 2013 09:30 GMT
#1298
For the record after you showed yourself I find your play very townie, trying to figure things out and discuss with everyone and pressuring your reads. Before that it was super trolly and scummy.

Yes it was very irritating to have to deal with smurfs and worse, hydras.

What exactly is the problem?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 30 2013 09:45 GMT
#1299
On January 30 2013 10:24 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 09:53 EmileZola wrote:
which is why I accused jay of not reading the thread.

In fact, I consider him scum for the manner in which he switched away from Sharrant. He seemed to switch away from Sharrant when it was apparent Sharrant would gain traction.

Distancing is a scum tactic. He prefers JX over Sharrant and never qualifies the preference any more than "JX has done worse". Not good enough. Either qualify it with tangible evidence, or die.

What the hell are you talking about. God forbid I have more then one scum read. Sharrant and JX are both scummy. Yes JX voted thrawn early but it doesn't make all his scummy actions irrelevant. Also Iamp also had JX as a scummy read. I have Lamp as a town read and i give his opinion some weight in my decisions. That is primarily why I started rereading filters and such to see if i could see what he said about Sharrant and JX.



So you think I'm scum because I had some "scummy actions" and because Iamp think's I'm scum

Well done.

For that matter iamp's reasoning for me were also stellar

On January 30 2013 08:28 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 08:21 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 30 2013 08:06 Promethelax wrote:
GREEN CHECK. You don't lynch him, find another target.

Look: either Vivax is scum fake-claiming to have a reason he is town later (and X is town) or Vivax is actually cop and checked X who came back green. We do not lynch X until one more mafia has flipped if that mafia is not GF we look at X again.

Yea this makes sense. But Im curious about the set up with this many town roles. Can someone put up a post explaining the possible roles with what we have so far.

On the bright side with all these blues we narrow down whos scum by alot :3

Imma go read JX's filter.

Iamp given the recent green check whats your thoughts other scum options. If we could figure out the set up if Vivax decides to tell us what cop he is. Then it opens us up to figuring out if there could be a gf.




i just said jx he aint doing shit and it looks like all he planed on doing was omgus the cop this cycle.


I don't mind having iamp think I'm lurking because I was just thinking that everyone was lurking yesterday night. It's ok, we're on opposite sides of the world.

However he claims to be able to read my mind and know what I'm planning... wth? Moreover Vivax has spouted a lot of stupid at me since his first post. My posts this cycle was about refuting his stupid shit while calling him scummy. Yes and it was all before he claimed.

Anybody who says I'm OMGUSing Vivax has to tell me how my post is stupid and how Vivax isn't totally wrong and trying mislead people

On January 30 2013 01:42 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 09:01 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2013 11:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
God JX too...

Ghost xsksc JX?

I dont' know I was in the middle of reading.


Just sayin. He got shot you know. Don't say this is WIFOM. He looked threatening for scum.

I'm behind a JX or xsksc lynch today.


mama mia have a sense of time please

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 16:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's talking like an SK who's bulletproof.


Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 17:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ghost actively opposed the thrawn lynch calling it a lurker lynch he didn't like. Hes also my top pick for tomorrow.


Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 18:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sharrant good target too. I don't like when people use language like "I have no doubt about this" when referring tothings scum might have done. Saying hes 100% sure ALL scum were on Thrawn wagon is example of this.


GJ at that weak attempt to fling shit at me after shooting VE

He changed his mind about me. He was off me.

##Vote: Vivax
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EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 09:49 GMT
#1300
Relax, I always have issues when someone posts logs from outside the thread. That means you communicate (you say with toad) and don't let us all know that in the first place.
Usually townies ask their questions in the thread and scum PMs the host... But that's just a general rule... Most recently I quietly asked to mods about someones replacement and I was town... I am not going to lynch you based on that... But I don't like it.
Everything else about you looks okay, especially your reaction towards thrawn... I mean I just posted this, "he might be afk and not lurking" and you pushed him. That gives you a lot of townpoints...

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