Normal Mini Mafia IV - Page 67

On January 29 2013 07:29 Sharrant wrote:
Okay, here are my reads and a bit of a case.

Yamato
I'd say he's confirmed town, if he's still around at LyLo then we could have an issue but that's it.

IamPerfection
First townread of the game, pretty much confirmed. Posts don't feel constructed, and he's not giving off an air of discomfort, so even without his spot as conductor of the thrawn wagon he's got major townie points. The only thing that worries me is how sure he was that it was scum play from Thrawn, it's a niggling doubt but if Thrawn knew he wouldn't be around he might've told them to go for a very early bus. Until LyLo he should be treated as confirmed town.

Djodref
I can't see him being anything other than the vigi at this point, again, he's anotherperson to treat as confirmed town unless we start getting SK kills, or the game doesn't end after the scum's death, but that'd be such a risky play for an SK to make, there's just no payoff.


EmileZola
I did not like his early game at all, but he's been very townie lately to make up for it. Being a hydra makes a lot of sense, and seems to almost confirm him green.

Promethelax
Not my strongest read ever, but I'm fairly certain he's town. His recent posts have been pretty solid.

Vivax
Right out of the gates I had him as a strong townread with IamPerfection, but that's dropped off a little.

Ghost_403
I'm reasonably certain he's town. His thoughts have almost been bang on to what mine have been, I'm hesitant to put him as town until I hear his current thoughts on Hapahauli and Promethelax.

JieXian
Unsure about him, but other people are reading him as town, so that's a point for him above xsksc

xsksc
Unsure about him either, almost has to be scum by process of elimination if Hapahauli wasn't in the game still.

Hapahauli
There's not much to say about Hapa without trying to mindgame the hosts. Scummy/null.

VisceraEyes
I'm not going to make connection cases before his flip, but if there were ever a time to do that, I think it would be now.

The first thing that set me off was this post.



At this point I already had a huge townread on IamPerfection but VisceraEyes is trying to make him look scummy, and he is the only scum read he mentions all day. The closest he comes to another person being scummy, is saying he could lynch EmileZola because he's a troll and that he's okay with a policy lynch on Thrawn. (He does soft defend Hapa as well, but that's for after the flip)



Then the Thrawn bandwagon starts picking up steam, and suddenly VE can't even be bothered to mention people he thinks are scummy. He's entirely focused on how the wagon must be scum, but doesn't actually comment on who on the wagon might be scum.





Two posts not even 15 minutes apart, both giving the most meek defense I've ever seen. It's like he's trying to get the bandwagon off of Thrawn without his name being involved at all.




"Hey, guys, third post about the Thrawn lynch being bad in 20 minutes. Boy, it sure is crazy how no one is defending him right? Right, guys? He's obviously townie."




"I'm not going to argue, but it's a bad lynch"




"I'm not soft defending Thrawn, I'm just saying this is a bad lynch for the fifth time in 20 minutes (Seriously, from 3:06 to 3:28 he posted 5 times about how Thrawn is most likely town). He's obviously town, you can tell by the lack of people resisting the wagon, but I'm okay with a thrawn lynch."

Pardon? You just spent 5 posts in a row saying he was town, the wagon is being lead by your ONLY SCUMREAD, and you are "okay" with the lynch?





"I don't even care enough to mention someone you should be voting before I leave."




"Oh, right, let me just hop on this wagon first."

How is that not deserving of an instant lynch since Thrawn flipped red? I don't want him vigged, I want him lynched. I want there to be as much discussion about this as possible.

So, quick recap here.

His ONLY SCUMREAD throughout all 48 hours of day 1 is a person that I think most people had easily meta-ed as town. He does no scum hunting beyond this, opting for two policy lynches. And then when one of them happens to be on scum, he defends him in 5 posts in 22 minutes and then says "I wasn't soft defending him". Then hops onto the wagon anyways.

If someone can rationalize this from a town perspective I would love to hear it, but all I see is VisceraEyes claiming scum, and everyone just looking elsewhere.

On January 30 2013 23:25 Vivax wrote:
SS, stop saying I want to lynch you now and go read my filter instead.

Today it's JX and no one else for me. Anyway, I'll respond to his points just to show how he's twisting things:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&currentpage=66#1310

1) Claiming out of nowhere and telling about your read isn't a scumtell. Dismissed.

2) Iamp voted for him, Djo just made a case against him and voted him. JX says no one. Not reading the thread or inflating things.

3) I said that I could believe xsksc to be the godfather based on his play. But I have to believe my own check instead of taking the risk of mislynching.

4) Yeah, I felt sure of marv's claim cause he had a chance of 40 % to be counterclaimed and immediately die. Not marv's style, as VE said (I think it was VE).

5) I wasn't spewing lies about Sharrant, you could say the same about Djo for that regard, interestingly you don't. I was satisfied with his answer anyway.

6) I'm not answering to something that reduces all the arguments I wrote about you to "saying opposite things".

7) Again, I don't care if jx made that mistake about Prom (now JX says it wasn't even a case). What matters is that he attacked him based on believing that he was defending thrawn (doesn't look like you only pressure voted him then) when he didn't know thrawn was scum.

8) He wanted Djo to shoot VE... Especially cause Djo had him as scumread? Is he admitting that he tried to let town get shot just cause it was the most probable outcome based on Djo's previous scumreads?
He wanted Djo to take responsibility for the shot (Which is bad if he's indeed vigi and hits the wrong target).
But if he wanted that, why did he ask Djo to shoot VE and me?

9) Rest of the posts aren't even worth noticing.

Find me that "case" you were talking about. No one knew whether thrawn was scum or not what the hell are you talking. Maybe you did.