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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 29 2013 07:29 Sharrant wrote: *snip* VisceraEyes I'm not going to make connection cases before his flip, but if there were ever a time to do that, I think it would be now. This is just before VE flip. Information that only mafia could have known. *snip* | ||
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On January 30 2013 10:09 Vivax wrote: I'm going to repeat it nicely: SHARRANT SAID HE DOESNT WANT TO TALK ABOUT VE'S CONNECTIONS BEFORE HIS FLIP. BUT HE STILL TALKED ABOUT HIM. THEN VE FLIPPED GREEN. TOWN NO KNOW WHO FLIP NEXT. SHARRANT DID. btw I'm not angry, just want to make it clear for you. Let's nip this in the bud. I was talking about lynching him. I thought my case was pretty good, and there was a fair amount of suspicion on him from other people as well. So I was planning on going after him on day 2. The reason I mentioned not making connection cases is because I felt if VE flipped scum that Hapa would be pretty surely scum, I withheld that because it would be stupid making pre flip connection cases, and it turned out it was smart to withhold it because VE flipped town during the night. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
What about Prome and EZ saying that they were going to lynch me if I had shot VE ? And the fact the only few people wanted to shoot VE ? Tell me who do you think could have followed you on a VE lynch ? | ||
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Vivax
22064 Posts
Who do you want to lynch, anyway? | ||
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Vivax
22064 Posts
Whenever I see such things I go into ecstasy. I hope I'll never be a dayvig, I hope it for you. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 30 2013 09:53 EmileZola wrote: which is why I accused jay of not reading the thread. In fact, I consider him scum for the manner in which he switched away from Sharrant. He seemed to switch away from Sharrant when it was apparent Sharrant would gain traction. Distancing is a scum tactic. He prefers JX over Sharrant and never qualifies the preference any more than "JX has done worse". Not good enough. Either qualify it with tangible evidence, or die. What the hell are you talking about. God forbid I have more then one scum read. Sharrant and JX are both scummy. Yes JX voted thrawn early but it doesn't make all his scummy actions irrelevant. Also Iamp also had JX as a scummy read. I have Lamp as a town read and i give his opinion some weight in my decisions. That is primarily why I started rereading filters and such to see if i could see what he said about Sharrant and JX. | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On January 30 2013 10:17 Djodref wrote: @ Sharrant What about Prome and EZ saying that they were going to lynch me if I had shot VE ? And the fact the only few people wanted to shoot VE ? Tell me who do you think could have followed you on a VE lynch ? Well, you had VE as a scum read going into N1, Ghost had VE as a scum game since the beginning of the game (for those of you wondering, my town read on Ghost came because his entrance into the thread matched by thoughts throughout the whole game word for word). Half of EZ had VE as scum earlier as well. So I figured with a strong case (and I think it was a pretty good case, even if it turned out to be wrong) that it would push it to the point where a VE lynch would be viable unless he started playing better. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 30 2013 10:25 Sharrant wrote: Well, you had VE as a scum read going into N1, Ghost had VE as a scum game since the beginning of the game (for those of you wondering, my town read on Ghost came because his entrance into the thread matched by thoughts throughout the whole game word for word). Half of EZ had VE as scum earlier as well. So I figured with a strong case (and I think it was a pretty good case, even if it turned out to be wrong) that it would push it to the point where a VE lynch would be viable unless he started playing better. Ok, fair enough. Who would you lynch today ? Wich players do you have as possible scum and why ? | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On January 30 2013 10:31 Djodref wrote: Ok, fair enough. Who would you lynch today ? Wich players do you have as possible scum and why ? Off the top of my head JieXian, EZ, Prom, and Jay are the only people I could see as being scum at this point. xsksc's posting style gave him townie points early with me, and seeing the green check makes me even more sure. Everyone not on the list read townie to me. I'm going to spend more time going through filters right now, I'll still try and respond to any questions that come up while I'm reading and writing though. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Hapa/jay Here is the collection of mentions of thrawn by Hapa. On January 26 2013 12:53 Hapahauli wrote: *snip* It's "bleh." He tends to come in and make random jokes like that as town. Can't make anywhere near an accurate read on him this early though. Doesn't commit to anything. It could be even a soft-defense because there was already some suspicion on thrawn at that point and he was less active than usual at this point. He directed me towards xsksc in his next post. On January 26 2013 13:04 Hapahauli wrote: @ Djo Can you sum up your suspicions of xsksc? I can't piece together your thoughts - it sounds like you're disagreeing more with his verbage rather than finding him scummy. On January 27 2013 06:43 Hapahauli wrote: @ JX We live on the opposite sides of the world ya know - gotta get my sleep and all. Regarding Thrawn He's the only other guy I'm concerned about right now. He's lurky as scum, and has been doing the same so far. Concerned about thrawn, but not voting him nor pushing him. On January 27 2013 09:05 Hapahauli wrote: Sounds reasonable. Well I'll wait for him to confirm himself before I make a judgement. If the smurf isn't MrZ though, I'd be down for lynching him. Thrawn + Ghost lurk annoys me. Other than that, I found one of the latest quotes by Iamp as scummy: Since when does iamp give a fuck about what people think of him? Annoyed. Not a very strong word. I think town Hapa could have pegged thrawn as scum at this point. Hapa has been playing with thrawn in Mario Mini Mafia and he knows he hangs out in the scumQT. Hapa has been playing with ghost in WitchCraft and he knows he is not very active as town. Their inactivity are presented on the same level here while they don't mean the same thing at all for these players. And Hapa should know that perfectly. One other thing I don't like in Hapa's filter is this post. Prome doesn't even imply that Hapa is town in his post. I think the scumslip is far-fetched here. I suspect a soft-town claim by scum Hapa here. I liked Sharrant defense a little, when jay sounded butthurt lately. Town jay martyrs when he is mislynched. ##Unvote ##Vote jay | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Also as town i used to martry. Obvious it never works as i still got mislynched. I dont plan to get mislynched this game, | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
At the beginning of your post you said hapa/jay* | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
The reason being is he doesnt know thrawn's alignment. He was suspicious of thrawn and im sure if hapa didn't need ot get replaced he would of followed up and voted thrawn as well. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 30 2013 11:27 jaybrundage wrote: @Djo Umm at the begging of your you said Hapa/jay. But all i see is hapa and no jay. Also as town i used to martry. Obvious it never works as i still got mislynched. I dont plan to get mislynched this game, Well, so you know what you should do not to get lynched. Go find better lynch targets than you ! Where you active lurking ? You are around but you show up when I change my vote on you ? Why are you not presenting your cases ? I have defended JieXian, do you have any comment to make on my post ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 30 2013 11:29 jaybrundage wrote: And your case is more or less Hapa doesnt jump on the thrawn wagon as if he knows the alignment of thrawn. The reason being is he doesnt know thrawn's alignment. He was suspicious of thrawn and im sure if hapa didn't need ot get replaced he would of followed up and voted thrawn as well. Town Hapa hates lurkers. He is an adept of the "Lynch a Lurker" policy. I think he would have pushed a lynch on thrawn because this policy is almost assured to hit scum with this player. Hapa did not vote thrawn. This is a fact ! | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
In regards to your second post yes hapa didnt vote thrawn. He had to get replaced and the mods stated hapa would stop posting and not partake in the voting. So whats your point. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 30 2013 11:45 jaybrundage wrote: @Djo I have been actively posting. You act like I have been not posting at all till i saw your case. I have posted my reads atm of JX and Sharrant. As of yet JX has been lurking everyone wants to defend him but no one lets him defend him self. Why is that? Yes he was on thrawn early could this make him more likely to be town sure. Can he still be scum yes. I have had games when people bus someone as the first or second post. DocH did this one game as scum. In regards to your second post yes hapa didnt vote thrawn. He had to get replaced and the mods stated hapa would stop posting and not partake in the voting. So whats your point. What do you make of the fact that JieXian is usually a lynch bait ? Could you provide some evidence that his vote on thrawn was a bus vote ? Could you provide better evidence that he is mafia ? Why are you not doing it already ? My point is that Hapa should have been very suspicious of thrawn. And he could have been pushing his lycnh while he was still in the game. Hapa knows thrawn almost as well as iamp, if not better (because they played scum together once). Supersoft looks like he had thrawn as scum quite early, iamp did, I did. Why Hapa was putting him on the same level as ghost ? I think Hapa was scum with thrawn. I might be wrong, but you should convince me on the opposite if you are indeed town. | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
I'll write more on this shortly but it needs more filter diving, the other big thing I noticed does not. Promethelax and EZ also strike me as a possible scum team. This one is much less likely, but this post is what put it into my head big time. On January 29 2013 08:54 Promethelax wrote: Because he was the strongest town player in the game? I'd have shot him as scum too. Sorry ghost. Still love you even though I thought you was scum. So with these night kills djo is pretty unlikely to be the SK but if he is sk we'll need to lynch him. Ah we'll, saving him until Lylo and/or a night with too many kills. Going to read over the night, wish VE had added more and that ghost hadn't just attacked me. Imp: I am opposed to a xscsk lynch. After talking about his respect for Bugs' play in the pregame, and after the reveal of SS/WBG being a hydra he mentions how VE was the strongest town player. Why did this bug me so much? SS/WBG being a hydra was very recent in the thread, it still should have been on his mind at this point. He had EZ as a town read (he mentions this shortly after when he also says he didn't think it through). It makes me think that he and EZ are scum together, and that was a big slip. There's certainly some faults to it, he was very agressive about finding out who EZ was, but also says that he knew it was at least SS playing because he learned it from the hosts earlier in the pregame. (I'm not sure about this, but it strikes me that if one person in the game was told by the hosts it should have been knowledge to everyone) so that makes me think that they might both be scum and that's how he knew. Again, this next point is a bit waffley, but this is based on a pretty weird slip so I really have to look at it both ways. EZ was not killed last night, even though he was revealed to be two veteran players. Instead they took the opportunity to kill VE, even over pretty much confirmed town Yamato and Iamp AND Djo. That makes me think that whoever killed him must have held him in high regard (which promethelax does, and I'm sure EZ does as well). Now, on the other hand, it's just plain strange to me that none of the really confirmed people were shot (except for Djo, because the scum have to have a healthy skepticism as to whether he is town or bullet proof SK). But for scum to shoot VE who did have a fair bit of suspicion on him, over one of the almost confirmed town really says that it was someone who respected his play. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
i believe hapa had already stopped posting before i threw out the first vote on thrawn. | ||
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