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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 30 2013 00:31 GMT
#1241
It was a compliment, you played well in Dessert. Yamato figured you out, I didn't.

What do you think of Sharrant and EZ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 00:32 GMT
#1242
Ok, I don't see any reason to doubt Vivax claim at this point. There is still room setup-wise because I don't think we have any medic. We don't know yet if there could be SK, GF or not yet, so I don't want to lynch xsksc anymore.
I can support a lynch of Sharrant or jay today. I would prefer to lynch jay.
If I have to believe the claims right now, we have VMC(C?) with 4 or 3 possible T left. Basically, depending on how many checks Vivax have and if there is still some blues left, we are going to know if there is godfather or SK also in this game.
I'm going today with the assumption that we have VMCTTTT as a setup (1-shot Cop, no SK, no GF, no more blues).

@ JieXian

Vivax claimed Cop. What do you make of this ?

##Unvote
##Vote jay
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 00:35 GMT
#1243
I expect xsksc to step up his game, and the same for JieXian. I would like to see more from yamato as well.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 30 2013 00:38 GMT
#1244
On January 30 2013 09:24 EmileZola wrote:
what's mind boggling is that you entered the thread attacking sharrant, even voted him at one point, but just randomly flipped to JX.

Sharrant did a very similar thing with Hapa by calling him a scummy/null read despite saying the only thing he could do to read him was mindgame the hosts.

Neither behavior made any sense.

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 09:21 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 30 2013 09:16 EmileZola wrote:
On January 30 2013 09:14 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 30 2013 09:08 EmileZola wrote:
On January 30 2013 09:03 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 30 2013 08:54 EmileZola wrote:
On January 30 2013 08:51 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok after rereading Sharrant I still want him to post more but. My vote is gonna go on JieXian as he has also been lurking a bit and his post dont have much clear thoughts he just seems to be trying to from opinions and stumbles alot.

##UnVote
##Vote JieXian


This, right here:

given your play in Dessert this post just caused your name to be colored in a darker shade of red for me.

I should be worried you have a bad habit of lynching townies


no, I have a habit of lynching people who play like scum, and then having them flip town 50% of the time.

You need to either read the thread or die.

On January 30 2013 09:04 Vivax wrote:
Well claiming to save a guy from getting lynched just before he truly gets lynched usually gets the guy still lynched cause people want to see if the claim is true. You got to stop the bandwagon before it gains steam.

To be honest I didn't want to believe my check. I was believing I hit the godfather initially. But got to go with what one gets.


He wasn't in any danger of being lynched.

Learn to convince people without claiming your goddamn role, cause you won't roll cop every game.


Maybe you should redefine what "playing like scum means" If people who fill the criteria flip town 50% doesn't it make you think your doing something wrong.

Its easy to blame other townies but how about you just play better. Palmar gets killed very early in the game as town cause he can find scum Period. Maybe the reasoning you are always getting kept alive as town WBG is your inability to find scum. As opposed to lynching people playing like scum.

Also what is your reading the thread or die bullshit. And the fact that you think xskds wasnt gonna get lynched wasn't so true. I could of seen us killing him today.


so why is it that you get lynched in all of your games and never find any scum?

Why are you accusing me of doing things wrong when a 50% lynch rate is better than 0?

You could have seen killing him because he was an easy bandwagon.

Oh look, you didn't answer any of my questions nor show me why JX is scum. You suck at this game.

Lol WBG you dont play well when your angry.

I stopped playing for a year. When i started again. Three games won my last 2/3 66% not so bad if i say so my self. Oh and the games I won. I was in both end games. I got better brah.

But regardless in THIS game I think JX is the best lynch atm.

Also you talk about mudflinging yet your the king of that.


So despite the fact that we both think Sharrant is scum, you prefer JX all of a sudden.

Sharrant was taking suspicion, and you magically don't find him scum anymore. Is that correct?

Also, living to endgame is not proof you are getting better. The hallmark of a good townie is getting consistently shot on n1.

Also, winning a game as scum because everyone thinks your bad play is indicative of you being town doesn't exactly help you in this situation.


Yes WBG rereading filters does change reads on people. While I still think Sharrant's lurking is scummy. I believe that JX has done more scummy things.

Why does it matter that we both think Sharrant is scummy I fail to see any reason this matters at all.

Btw That bolded part is irony that is what i was just talking about earlier.

I think earlier EZ was townie.

ATM im not sure I have a bad habit of forming town reads on people that try to kill me. Like an antiOMGUS i have no idea why so trying to avoide that. And my read is kinda shifting to more null.

I still think Sharrant is a decent lynch candidate but I would prefer JX.

Also Djo I see you voted me. Some reasoning would be nice.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 00:42 GMT
#1245
I think that Thrawn lynch has been possible because the scumteam was inactive and didn't manage to push a mislynch.
Who was inactive day 1 ? Who has defended thrawn in the very beginning of the game ? Hapa.

And your entrance in this thread didn't convince me that you were town at all.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 30 2013 00:43 GMT
#1246
There's something about Sharrant that looks like a scumslip:

On January 29 2013 07:29 Sharrant wrote:
*snip*
VisceraEyes
I'm not going to make connection cases before his flip, but if there were ever a time to do that, I think it would be now.

The first thing that set me off was this post.
*snip*



Why is he talking about VE's flip before the daypost?

##Unvote
##Vote Sharrant

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 00:48 GMT
#1247
@ town players

Please be very carefull wrt to JieXian. Of course, he has done some scummy things, but this guy is a fucking lynch bait when he is town. Please refer to WitchCraft Mini Mafia or LIX. He basically says whatever is on his mind while he reads the thread and make random and useless comments a lot.

For me, he has joined thrawn wagon early enough to be town. Check this votecount again, there was almost no traction on the thrawn lynch at that point. I don't imagine scum JieXian doing this kind of things.

On January 28 2013 03:25 Toadesstern wrote:
VE-VE-VE-VOTECOUNT:



Sharrant ( 1 ): Vivax
Iamperfection ( 2 ): VisceraEyes, thrawn2112
Xsksc ( 1 ): Promethelax
Thrawn2112 ( 2 ): iamperfection, JieXian
Promethelax ( 2 ): Sharrant, ghost_403
VisceraEyes ( 2 ): Djodref, yamato77
Hapahauli ( 1 ): EmileZola
EmileZola ( 1 ): xsksc

With 13 people alive it takes 7 to lynch someone.
1 people haven't voted yet:
Hapahauli,

Deadline is still 23:00 GMT (+00:00)



Important Mod note:
Hapahauli has contacted me to get replaced and he will be replaced. We won't be able to replace someone in before monday though. Keep that in mind. He will not be modkilled and most likely won't vote/post this cycle

EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 30 2013 00:53 GMT
#1248
which is why I accused jay of not reading the thread.

In fact, I consider him scum for the manner in which he switched away from Sharrant. He seemed to switch away from Sharrant when it was apparent Sharrant would gain traction.

Distancing is a scum tactic. He prefers JX over Sharrant and never qualifies the preference any more than "JX has done worse". Not good enough. Either qualify it with tangible evidence, or die.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 30 2013 00:58 GMT
#1249
VE-VE-VE-VOTECOUNT:

yamato77 ( 1 ): jaybrundage. Jaybrundage
Sharrant ( 2 ): yamato77, jaybrundage, Vivax
Xsksc ( 2 ): Iamperfection, Vivax, Djodref
jaybrundage ( 2 ): EmileZola, Vivax, Djodref

With 11 people alive it takes 6 to lynch someone.
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 30 2013 00:59 GMT
#1250
On January 30 2013 09:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
VE-VE-VE-VOTECOUNT:

yamato77 ( 1 ): jaybrundage. Jaybrundage
Sharrant ( 2 ): yamato77, jaybrundage, Vivax
Xsksc ( 2 ): Iamperfection, Vivax, Djodref
jaybrundage ( 2 ): EmileZola, Vivax, Djodref

With 11 people alive it takes 6 to lynch someone.


your math is questionable.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 30 2013 01:01 GMT
#1251
## unvote

im gonna re read everything again.


probably will report my findings tomorrow morning.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 30 2013 01:03 GMT
#1252
Well if Sharrant flips scum we will think about taking care of jay.

Kill the guy who knew that VE was about to flip.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 30 2013 01:04 GMT
#1253
On January 27 2013 09:05 Hapahauli wrote:

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
Well ill let porm answer since he always complains when I answer questions directed at other people.


Since when does iamp give a fuck about what people think of him?


however one thing i do remember about hapa that made me think he was town is that he was a tiny bit suspicions of me.

Scum hapa would know by now that it is suicidal for him to go after me in any way considering are history.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 30 2013 01:04 GMT
#1254
That post was before the NKs, not the lynch.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 30 2013 01:05 GMT
#1255
On January 30 2013 10:04 Vivax wrote:
That post was before the NKs, not the lynch.

wat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#1256
On January 30 2013 10:05 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 10:04 Vivax wrote:
That post was before the NKs, not the lynch.

wat


Vivax is trying to say that Sharrant knew that VE was going to get shot at the end of the night. Because he said
"I'm not going to make association cases before his flip" which could mean he knew that VE was going to get killed this night.

In fact, it's a pretty nice find. Because it is not like VE was going to get lynched easily soon. Sharrant knew that VE was going to flip (=get killed here) soon.

##Unvote
##Vote Sharrant
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#1257
I'm going to repeat it nicely:

SHARRANT SAID HE DOESNT WANT TO TALK ABOUT VE'S CONNECTIONS BEFORE HIS FLIP.
BUT HE STILL TALKED ABOUT HIM.

THEN VE FLIPPED GREEN. TOWN NO KNOW WHO FLIP NEXT. SHARRANT DID.


btw I'm not angry, just want to make it clear for you.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 30 2013 01:12 GMT
#1258
On January 30 2013 10:04 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 09:05 Hapahauli wrote:

On January 27 2013 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
Well ill let porm answer since he always complains when I answer questions directed at other people.


Since when does iamp give a fuck about what people think of him?


however one thing i do remember about hapa that made me think he was town is that he was a tiny bit suspicions of me.

Scum hapa would know by now that it is suicidal for him to go after me in any way considering are history.


This, he also tried to figure out what was going on and clearly had some issues with what I was saying. I think after last game he would go for a different target since I had him figured out before he got me killed but wasn't back in the thread to push him. He mentioned something to me in PMs about how he only went for me because he knew I was going to be AFK.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
January 30 2013 01:12 GMT
#1259
Hey, guys, reading the thread now. Will make posts shortlyish.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 30 2013 01:12 GMT
#1260
i dont really buy scum slips

flip can easily mean day filp and other nonsense.

sharrent's current absence is more fuel to him being guilty than that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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