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On January 26 2013 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:05 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 10:55 Hapahauli wrote:To expand on that: "odd" is a purposeless term in mafia. No one cares if something is "odd," because it draws no conclusions about someone's allignment. This is especially true given how that quote is constructed: On January 26 2013 09:41 xsksc wrote:
Yeah, I don't see a good reason for you to be scum at this point. Your attacks are a bit odd but apparently you always play like this? I'd like to have a wee deek at one of your town games, which game were you last town in? First you say that there's no reason for you to think he's scum. Then you call his quote "odd" (which is purposeless and implies suspicion on Vivax). Then you backtrack on it, but then reverse course again promising to look into Vivax's filter (which implies suspicion on him again). There's a huge lack of coherence behind this statement of yours. What are your actual thoughts on Vivax? I said I don't see a good reason for him to be scum. I don't think someone making a bad case on me warrants me to turn around and label them scum, if there's nothing else in their filter to indicate so. His case lacked logic, that's all, and I prefer to actually do something constructive day one than defend myself against it. Still leaning town on him. You may be more familiar with him, what do you think? Standard Vivax? Ignore the "standard Vivax" stuff. What would you think of his play independent of his history?
He jumped right in and started making cases/pressuring his read, he looks like he doesn't care if he's in the spotlight. Seems fairly townie to me. In fact, I don't think scum would make such a poorly thought out case that fast in the game, it's bound to draw unwanted attention.
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Can you answer my question now?
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On January 26 2013 11:37 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:29 Promethelax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:23 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:08 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, lets set some ground rules, no one tries to lynch Marv d1 unless Hapa, me and VE all agree about him being scum. We're the three who know him well in this group. A corollary is that we will lynch him in lylo no matter what. If he is town and scum want to take the risk of letting him live that long we can make that trade.
Along with that we will kill lurkers and liars, I'm done with towns where those things are acceptable. I would like confirmation from those players who are here on this. People who play anti-town will also be lynched. We must make it so that townies cannot play in a scummy way, it is time for town to win a mini.
We believe in capital punishment in this town.
xsksc: tell me about yourself. What are your strengths and what are your weaknesses?
Alright. I'd appreciate if you do the same for me, you're one of the players in this game I'm not familiar with. My reads are usually pretty good, I've never been lynched and I'd like to think people can identify my town play easily enough. My weakness would probably be not pushing my reads hard enough/getting people on-board with me. On January 26 2013 09:13 Vivax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:10 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:07 iamperfection wrote:this is better prom has posted the scummiest post so far On January 26 2013 08:55 Promethelax wrote:
Hello one and all and welcome to my town, there are three rules here. No lying, no lurking and no creating bad town atmosphere. Clear? because everyone in this game already knows this and he would only post it to appear to contribute ## Vote prom It's a pretty pointless post as, like you said, everyone clearly knows this already. There's not really a scum motive for it either, it doesn't earn him any townie points whatsoever. It's just pointless. I think this post is scummy. It's lengthy and too serious in this situation. It also suggests xsksc has been lurking until he read your question. He was observing us silently. ##Unvote
##Vote xsksc It's 2 lines long, I'm not sure what world that would qualify as lengthy in... Iamperfection said Proms post was scummy, I said I don't see a scum motive behind it, pointless post =/= scum post. Fairly simple. Replying to this before I forget, at one time I thought my strength lay in being obviously townie and not in scum hunting. Over my last few games I think that has been shifting. I have been mislynched twice in a row and caught scum twice I. A row (we are ignoring lviii). I can pretty well assure you that Marv and probably Hapa will be able to read me as town. As to the other players in this game, most know me and have played with me before but I'm less sure that they'll be able to read me well. Huh? How do you know that I'm town?
Work still slow:
I expect you and Marv to know I am town. If you are town because you read me right and if scum because you won't be dumb enough to read me wrong. Doesn't matter if you are town or scum I expect both of you to, within the first few days (if we are all alive) to be treating me like confirmed town.
Xsksc: look at lviii for a game where everyone had Vivax as a super town read even though he was scum. Don't be too sure of yourself based on his spotlight love. You know those Italians, they love attention (is that a real stereotype or did I just make it up?)
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@ xsksc
Can you quote me the "cases" you are talking about ? I disagree with your usage of semantics, and I'm interested to know what you call "cases" and what exactly you are referring to.
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On January 26 2013 11:46 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:37 Hapahauli wrote:On January 26 2013 11:29 Promethelax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:23 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:08 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, lets set some ground rules, no one tries to lynch Marv d1 unless Hapa, me and VE all agree about him being scum. We're the three who know him well in this group. A corollary is that we will lynch him in lylo no matter what. If he is town and scum want to take the risk of letting him live that long we can make that trade.
Along with that we will kill lurkers and liars, I'm done with towns where those things are acceptable. I would like confirmation from those players who are here on this. People who play anti-town will also be lynched. We must make it so that townies cannot play in a scummy way, it is time for town to win a mini.
We believe in capital punishment in this town.
xsksc: tell me about yourself. What are your strengths and what are your weaknesses?
Alright. I'd appreciate if you do the same for me, you're one of the players in this game I'm not familiar with. My reads are usually pretty good, I've never been lynched and I'd like to think people can identify my town play easily enough. My weakness would probably be not pushing my reads hard enough/getting people on-board with me. On January 26 2013 09:13 Vivax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:10 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:07 iamperfection wrote:this is better prom has posted the scummiest post so far On January 26 2013 08:55 Promethelax wrote:
Hello one and all and welcome to my town, there are three rules here. No lying, no lurking and no creating bad town atmosphere. Clear? because everyone in this game already knows this and he would only post it to appear to contribute ## Vote prom It's a pretty pointless post as, like you said, everyone clearly knows this already. There's not really a scum motive for it either, it doesn't earn him any townie points whatsoever. It's just pointless. I think this post is scummy. It's lengthy and too serious in this situation. It also suggests xsksc has been lurking until he read your question. He was observing us silently. ##Unvote
##Vote xsksc It's 2 lines long, I'm not sure what world that would qualify as lengthy in... Iamperfection said Proms post was scummy, I said I don't see a scum motive behind it, pointless post =/= scum post. Fairly simple. Replying to this before I forget, at one time I thought my strength lay in being obviously townie and not in scum hunting. Over my last few games I think that has been shifting. I have been mislynched twice in a row and caught scum twice I. A row (we are ignoring lviii). I can pretty well assure you that Marv and probably Hapa will be able to read me as town. As to the other players in this game, most know me and have played with me before but I'm less sure that they'll be able to read me well. Huh? How do you know that I'm town? Work still slow: I expect you and Marv to know I am town. If you are town because you read me right and if scum because you won't be dumb enough to read me wrong. Doesn't matter if you are town or scum I expect both of you to, within the first few days (if we are all alive) to be treating me like confirmed town. Xsksc: look at lviii for a game where everyone had Vivax as a super town read even though he was scum. Don't be too sure of yourself based on his spotlight love. You know those Italians, they love attention (is that a real stereotype or did I just make it up?)
Given recent games, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
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On January 26 2013 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
hapa you going herp derp scum slip is scum slip again?
they don't exist remember.
Of course they exist. You just have to discern them from the stupid townie comments.
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On January 26 2013 11:47 Djodref wrote:
@ xsksc
Can you quote me the "cases" you are talking about ? I disagree with your usage of semantics, and I'm interested to know what you call "cases" and what exactly you are referring to.
Case: A set of reasons or supporting facts; an argument.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 26 2013 09:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 09:10 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:07 iamperfection wrote:this is better prom has posted the scummiest post so far On January 26 2013 08:55 Promethelax wrote:
Hello one and all and welcome to my town, there are three rules here. No lying, no lurking and no creating bad town atmosphere. Clear? because everyone in this game already knows this and he would only post it to appear to contribute ## Vote prom It's a pretty pointless post as, like you said, everyone clearly knows this already. There's not really a scum motive for it either, it doesn't earn him any townie points whatsoever. It's just pointless. I think this post is scummy. It's lengthy and too serious in this situation. It also suggests xsksc has been lurking until he read your question. He was observing us silently. ##Unvote
##Vote xsksc On January 26 2013 09:16 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 09:14 iamperfection wrote:On January 26 2013 09:13 Vivax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:10 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:07 iamperfection wrote:this is better prom has posted the scummiest post so far On January 26 2013 08:55 Promethelax wrote:
Hello one and all and welcome to my town, there are three rules here. No lying, no lurking and no creating bad town atmosphere. Clear? because everyone in this game already knows this and he would only post it to appear to contribute ## Vote prom It's a pretty pointless post as, like you said, everyone clearly knows this already. There's not really a scum motive for it either, it doesn't earn him any townie points whatsoever. It's just pointless. I think this post is scummy. It's lengthy and too serious in this situation. It also suggests xsksc has been lurking until he read your question. He was observing us silently. ##Unvote
##Vote xsksc thats pretty terrible at least he contributed what he thought about it and we now know that people didn't contribute at all. What did he contribute? It's as pointless as the post he's talking about. How can you spend two lines of text to call something pointless? But that's not everything. Look at the syntax: It's a pretty pointless post as, like you said, everyone clearly knows this already. There's not really a scum motive for it either, it doesn't earn him any townie points whatsoever. It's just pointless. "Like you said" (His thoughts: "Well, I know I'm just repeating this"). Townie points, who thinks in townie points? Scum! On January 26 2013 09:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 09:41 xsksc wrote:
Yeah, I don't see a good reason for you to be scum at this point. Your attacks are a bit odd but apparently you always play like this? I'd like to have a wee deek at one of your town games, which game were you last town in? You know something? Town don't like vote on themselves cause they know they are town. They have to be suspicious, assume that there's scum attacking them. If you are town, my attacks aren't just a bit odd, they should be stupid. You didn't check my profile to look for games but you ask me to hand them out to you. That means you are either extremely gullible or you knew I was town. Anyway, my games (but not all, have to find them yet) are in my profile. Hand out your games to me instead, I didn't see links to them in your profile.
This is a case, non?
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On January 26 2013 11:43 xsksc wrote:
Can you answer my question now?
You mean the "standard Vivax" thing? I'm far from an authority on him. I've played one game with him, and I was a replacement there (Hero Mini Mafia). Probably a better question for someone like Marv or VE.
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For me a case is one big constructed post summing everything up, with strong points. I don't think Vivax points were very strong, and I wouldn't call it a case.
Do you have any player you are suspicious on so far ?
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On January 26 2013 11:48 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
hapa you going herp derp scum slip is scum slip again?
they don't exist remember. Of course they exist. You just have to discern them from the stupid townie comments.
just like every other comment in the game.........................
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On January 26 2013 11:54 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:48 Hapahauli wrote:On January 26 2013 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
hapa you going herp derp scum slip is scum slip again?
they don't exist remember. Of course they exist. You just have to discern them from the stupid townie comments. just like every other comment in the game.........................
Well I have no idea where you're going with this, so lets' clear it up. Is your recent line of posts:
a) stupid banter
b) finding me suspicious
c) scumhunting discussion
d) other
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On January 26 2013 11:59 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:54 iamperfection wrote:On January 26 2013 11:48 Hapahauli wrote:On January 26 2013 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
hapa you going herp derp scum slip is scum slip again?
they don't exist remember. Of course they exist. You just have to discern them from the stupid townie comments. just like every other comment in the game......................... Well I have no idea where you're going with this, so lets' clear it up. Is your recent line of posts: a) stupid banter b) finding me suspicious c) scumhunting discussion d) other
e. all of the above
The two games where you go this is scum slip om how could someone possibly do this is when your scum so i am going to be suspicious of you when you do it
When your town i don't recall you ever doing it.
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On January 26 2013 12:03 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:59 Hapahauli wrote:On January 26 2013 11:54 iamperfection wrote:On January 26 2013 11:48 Hapahauli wrote:On January 26 2013 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
hapa you going herp derp scum slip is scum slip again?
they don't exist remember. Of course they exist. You just have to discern them from the stupid townie comments. just like every other comment in the game......................... Well I have no idea where you're going with this, so lets' clear it up. Is your recent line of posts: a) stupid banter b) finding me suspicious c) scumhunting discussion d) other e. all of the above The two games where you go this is scum slip om how could someone possibly do this is when your scum so i am going to be suspicious of you when you do it When your town i don't recall you ever doing it.
I do pursue things like this as town - hell I'd jump on just about anything on Day 1 if it means that I get more posts about it. The difference is in motive. As scum, I'll jump on these things and repeatedly call someone "SCUM SCUM SCUM" in pursuit of my objectives. As town, I treat them for what they are - I pursue them, see where they lead to, and I'll make an opinion based off it one way or the other.
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On January 26 2013 11:54 Djodref wrote:
For me a case is one big constructed post summing everything up, with strong points. I don't think Vivax points were very strong, and I wouldn't call it a case.
Do you have any player you are suspicious on so far ?
#1 A case is a case, doesn't matter how strong it is.
#2 Thrawn has done nothing useful. One comment about something he didn't like and a joke. That's it, pretty suspicious stuff and I hope he starts posting some more substance when he's on next.
Also - your arguments with me over semantics, why? I mean, what's the point? I'd clarified what I meant by odd to Hapa already, and yet you still thought it necessary to point out. I find it hard to believe you didn't know what I meant by "case", and it seems a very small thing to pick a fight over.
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And as for the Prome thing, it's less "SCUMSLIP OMG" and more pursuing something that's very illogical.
Prome's faith that marv and I would find him town regardless of alignment makes no sense, especially when Prome is a guy that certainly can get mislynched as town.
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meh whatever
hapa is the least of my worries I'm confident that i can read him if he is in fact scum.
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Sigh. Where did everyone go?
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On January 26 2013 12:10 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:54 Djodref wrote:
For me a case is one big constructed post summing everything up, with strong points. I don't think Vivax points were very strong, and I wouldn't call it a case.
Do you have any player you are suspicious on so far ? #1 A case is a case, doesn't matter how strong it is. #2 Thrawn has done nothing useful. One comment about something he didn't like and a joke. That's it, pretty suspicious stuff and I hope he starts posting some more substance when he's on next. Also - your arguments with me over semantics, why? I mean, what's the point? I'd clarified what I meant by odd to Hapa already, and yet you still thought it necessary to point out. I find it hard to believe you didn't know what I meant by "case", and it seems a very small thing to pick a fight over.
I wasn't speaking about the odd "thing", I was speaking about the fact that you consider the few weak posts Vivax made against you "cases". Your posture is too defensive to my liking.
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On January 26 2013 12:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Where did everyone go?
im all you need bro
what you want to talk about you pick the subject
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On January 26 2013 12:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Where did everyone go?
I'm here. What do you think about thrawn entrance in the thread ?
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