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On January 26 2013 13:18 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 13:04 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Djo
Can you sum up your suspicions of xsksc? I can't piece together your thoughts - it sounds like you're disagreeing more with his verbage rather than finding him scummy. Here are the two reasons why I'm suspicious of xsksc. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 09:41 xsksc wrote:
Yeah, I don't see a good reason for you to be scum at this point. Your attacks are a bit odd but apparently you always play like this? I'd like to have a wee deek at one of your town games, which game were you last town in? This post where he announces that he is going to look into Vivax games. This post casts suspicion upon Vivax in an indirect way and I don't like the fact that he says he is going to look into Vivax games. It's very similar to what Adam posted in Hero Mini Mafia about thrawn (Palmar picked it up in his video). The second thing is his reference to cases that don't really exist in my eyes. Vivax arguments are quite weak and they don't constitute cases for me. So I find xsksc over defensive, which is commonly a scum trait. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:41 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:On January 26 2013 11:05 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 10:55 Hapahauli wrote:To expand on that: "odd" is a purposeless term in mafia. No one cares if something is "odd," because it draws no conclusions about someone's allignment. This is especially true given how that quote is constructed: On January 26 2013 09:41 xsksc wrote:
Yeah, I don't see a good reason for you to be scum at this point. Your attacks are a bit odd but apparently you always play like this? I'd like to have a wee deek at one of your town games, which game were you last town in? First you say that there's no reason for you to think he's scum. Then you call his quote "odd" (which is purposeless and implies suspicion on Vivax). Then you backtrack on it, but then reverse course again promising to look into Vivax's filter (which implies suspicion on him again). There's a huge lack of coherence behind this statement of yours. What are your actual thoughts on Vivax? I said I don't see a good reason for him to be scum. I don't think someone making a bad case on me warrants me to turn around and label them scum, if there's nothing else in their filter to indicate so. His case lacked logic, that's all, and I prefer to actually do something constructive day one than defend myself against it. Still leaning town on him. You may be more familiar with him, what do you think? Standard Vivax? Ignore the "standard Vivax" stuff. What would you think of his play independent of his history? He jumped right in and started making cases/pressuring his read, he looks like he doesn't care if he's in the spotlight. Seems fairly townie to me. In fact, I don't think scum would make such a poorly thought out case that fast in the game, it's bound to draw unwanted attention.
Firstly, "over-defensiveness" isn't really a scum-trait. Townies can be very "over-defensive" too. I also really don't see how he's being over-defensive. He's responding to suspicion against him, and you're tunneling him for being willing to do so.
Now in regards to that "indirect suspicion" quote of his, the more I read it, the more I see it as poorly-worded rather than anything else. It sounds a lot like he's giving Vivax a town-read and then wants to look through Vivax's past games to verify it.
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On January 26 2013 13:41 xsksc wrote:
Hapa, you still here?
What do you think of Djodref?
Nothing significant with Djo yet. His suspicions on you are silly, but that's all I've gathered so far.
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On January 26 2013 13:55 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 13:41 xsksc wrote:
Hapa, you still here?
What do you think of Djodref? Nothing significant with Djo yet. His suspicions on you are silly, but that's all I've gathered so far.
Come on, you didn't like the very post I didn't like. You are being silly right now 
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On January 26 2013 13:58 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 13:55 Hapahauli wrote:On January 26 2013 13:41 xsksc wrote:
Hapa, you still here?
What do you think of Djodref? Nothing significant with Djo yet. His suspicions on you are silly, but that's all I've gathered so far. Come on, you didn't like the very post I didn't like. You are being silly right now
Yes, and I explained why I changed my mind:
Now in regards to that "indirect suspicion" quote of his, the more I read it, the more I see it as poorly-worded rather than anything else. It sounds a lot like he's giving Vivax a town-read and then wants to look through Vivax's past games to verify it.
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On January 26 2013 13:42 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 13:41 Djodref wrote:On January 26 2013 13:39 xsksc wrote:
Yes, I skim-read I can't believe it's not themed mini. He got lynched day1 but this was in July so there's a good chance he's a lot better by now. Going to give lviii a read if I have time later. I'm basing my leaning-town read on him on the events that happened so far this game though - not on meta. Why did you ask for his previous town games then ? Was your previous argument to derive a town read on Vivax not already valid at that point ? Because I heard people talking about his "style" or whatever and I wanted to check out what he's known for. Doesn't hurt to get a little background info on players I haven't met before.
Ok, fair enough. I'll drop you for now ^^
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It's just us 3 on? zzz
Where are the Americans? It can't be that late across the pond o.O
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It's about midnight on the East Coast. Really surprised that Thrawn isn't in here - he's usually active early-game.
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I'm at work. Which makes things hard, though I guess I'm not really an American.
Hapa, I figured you were good enough to figure it out, the only times you've called me scum when we were both town was in newbies. In chrono you and I omgus'd a lot but I don't feel like you ever seriously thought I was scum. Lets just say that I'm confident that you know me well enough to figure it out. You said yourself you'd never have voted me I. Our most recent game if you were town.
Djo, who are you actually suspicious of? Or is this weird stuff with xsksc actually you thinking he is scummy?
Thrawn, I want to hear more from you. You and Marv have both been oddly quiet, Marv I want more from you too.
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Marv is british, no? It's 5.11am here ^_^
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On January 26 2013 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
SCUM SLIPS ARE REAL! THEY'RE REAL IAM
@ VE
What do you make of iamp, Hapa and Prome wrt the "scumslip” ?
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I still want to hear more from him. You are also an islander and you are here.
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Yeah but it's burns night and theres no chances Im sleeping lolol
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On January 26 2013 14:11 Promethelax wrote:
I'm at work. Which makes things hard, though I guess I'm not really an American.
Hapa, I figured you were good enough to figure it out, the only times you've called me scum when we were both town was in newbies. In chrono you and I omgus'd a lot but I don't feel like you ever seriously thought I was scum. Lets just say that I'm confident that you know me well enough to figure it out. You said yourself you'd never have voted me I. Our most recent game if you were town.
Djo, who are you actually suspicious of? Or is this weird stuff with xsksc actually you thinking he is scummy?
Thrawn, I want to hear more from you. You and Marv have both been oddly quiet, Marv I want more from you too.
@ Prom
I think I went overboard with xsksc. His reactions have been fine and I didn't find anything else in his filter.
I'm concerned the most by thrawn inactivity right now.
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JX also hasn't posted and its afternoon for the little spam monster.
Ghost is American and I dunno where the smurf is from for real.
I honestly doubt sharrent will even post, I had to replace for him in LC and I doubt things have changed. We will see though.
I too am worried by Tfunk. I look forward to something from him,
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Which of the active players are you worried about being scum?
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On January 26 2013 14:18 Promethelax wrote:
Which of the active players are you worried about being scum?
You mean active right now ?
I'm not worried about you. I'm not worried about xsksc anymore. I'll check Hapa later.
For the rest, I think VE could be scum. And thrawn of course.
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On January 26 2013 14:11 Promethelax wrote:
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Hapa, I figured you were good enough to figure it out, the only times you've called me scum when we were both town was in newbies. In chrono you and I omgus'd a lot but I don't feel like you ever seriously thought I was scum. Lets just say that I'm confident that you know me well enough to figure it out. You said yourself you'd never have voted me I. Our most recent game if you were town.
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I called you scum for like half of the game in CT mafia.
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On January 26 2013 14:18 Promethelax wrote:
JX also hasn't posted and its afternoon for the little spam monster.
Ghost is American and I dunno where the smurf is from for real.
I honestly doubt sharrent will even post, I had to replace for him in LC and I doubt things have changed. We will see though.
I too am worried by Tfunk. I look forward to something from him,
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Jx was much less spammy in LIX and he is a lynch bait anyway. I'll be worried if I don't find him scummy
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On January 26 2013 09:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here...was playing GoMe
I'm town HURRAY!
Marv Miller?
:/
This post and this post also On January 26 2013 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
SCUM SLIPS ARE REAL! THEY'RE REAL IAM
They remind me of Hero Mini Mafia.
I'm on phone now but I'll try to find the quotes later.
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@ Prom
On January 26 2013 14:23 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 14:11 Promethelax wrote:
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Hapa, I figured you were good enough to figure it out, the only times you've called me scum when we were both town was in newbies. In chrono you and I omgus'd a lot but I don't feel like you ever seriously thought I was scum. Lets just say that I'm confident that you know me well enough to figure it out. You said yourself you'd never have voted me I. Our most recent game if you were town.
... I called you scum for like half of the game in CT mafia.
To add on to this, the only game we played in newbies was when I was town and you were scum.
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