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On January 24 2013 08:17 FiveTouch wrote: There's no reason for you not to comment on the leading contenders for lynch though, Stutters. The work is done for you by others.
Agreed. Unless someone has a reason why annul is town though he's my #1 choice. The others I need to finish their interactions but I don't see them as better candidates currently.
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On January 24 2013 09:52 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 09:24 Chezinu wrote: Oh I found the PM 5touch. I can see it was a honest mistake. The name of the person I was talking about was in the subject, "Re: SOMEBODIE'S NAME question"
For town, there is a reason that he didn't post it in context.
Ask the mason you got that pm from for the subject title. Hi Chezinu. I would quote more of your posts, but the gist of it is I will look into what you've told me. If I'm capable of understanding, of course. As to your question to me, I trust them both, although I understand why you trusted the one you did more than the other. Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 08:29 BroodKingEXE wrote: Annul is obvscum, at the moment he isn't doing anything, but putting out weak scum reads and useless setup speculation. His posting style is that of a scum who knows he's in a bad spot. He says his D1 was non-existant, but I dont see a town directed change out of him.
##Vote: Annul Also, this guy is mafia. So what do you think the odds are of annul and bke being scum? Are we walking into a mislynch in your opinion?
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What lie? Maybe I'm not understanding, but isn't a jack mason return a valid result?
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Also my vote is on Gonzaw currently for obvious reasons. Forgot to mention that in the thread when I posted it due to being in between classes.
This spoilered part is about debears since I don't want to spam the thread with BG talk, but I still would like an answer to this.
+ Show Spoiler [Debears] +Debears is looking more town to me but I still would like to hear why he waited to deliver such an underwhelming case on Oats and not delivering on djo. On January 24 2013 10:55 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also debears, this DOES NOT explain why your day 1 was the epitome of a lurker/newbie scum who doesnt want to post.
I explained this last game and earlier this game to djo. Unfortunately, you don't read This quote too. You explained that you don't spam because these are big games, but you didn't explain at all why d1 you "contributed" a meta read that you never followed through with and not much else except policy talk. Why have you just been providing meta reads instead of like the cases you pushed in previous town games that were much more logical?
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On January 25 2013 04:25 Vivax wrote: FT, how can you be so sure someone is mafia off so few posts?
@ stutters
Look at it this way: Oats, the probable town, immediately believed my claim cause of the timing.
Toad, FT and yamato attacked it like crazy. Austin went a little less hyped about it, but he joined in doing so. Just saying, man, just saying...subjective you know.
If you think that Toad, FT, Yamato, Asutin Gonzaw would be the scum team and would all attack your claim hardcore knowing you're right; you're insane. I could see a member, maybe two defending it but Toad does make sense with why he thought you were lying. I believe your claim since this would be a drastic scum play and based off of what I saw in YANMM that feels very unlikely, but I can understand the concern.
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On January 25 2013 04:37 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 04:31 Stutters695 wrote:Also my vote is on Gonzaw currently for obvious reasons. Forgot to mention that in the thread when I posted it due to being in between classes. This spoilered part is about debears since I don't want to spam the thread with BG talk, but I still would like an answer to this. + Show Spoiler [Debears] +Debears is looking more town to me but I still would like to hear why he waited to deliver such an underwhelming case on Oats and not delivering on djo. On January 24 2013 10:55 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also debears, this DOES NOT explain why your day 1 was the epitome of a lurker/newbie scum who doesnt want to post.
I explained this last game and earlier this game to djo. Unfortunately, you don't read This quote too. You explained that you don't spam because these are big games, but you didn't explain at all why d1 you "contributed" a meta read that you never followed through with and not much else except policy talk. Why have you just been providing meta reads instead of like the cases you pushed in previous town games that were much more logical? Stutters, there really is no reason for me to answer this. I'm gonna die tonight. You need to look at people that will likely survive the night
Fair enough, if you live I expect an answer however.
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I've considered the possibility of a frame but it feels like an awful lot has to line up for that to be true. Vivax would have to have picked the same target as the farmer first of all which is possible but unlikely and we won't learn much of anything in addition to rushing a lynch.
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On January 25 2013 08:58 Vivax wrote: The bad news: It won't surprise me if Toad doesn't protect me tonight and I get shot. Considering how he let sandro get shot and that he's likely mafia in my eyes.
At least I won't have the burden of being super tryhard in this town when the scum clearly has better and more active players.
Eh, there are quite a few situations where RBing you still wouldn't be the best play from a town perspective.
Also "At least I won't have the burden of being super tryhard in this town when the scum clearly has better and more active players;" no, don't do that
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Mocsta if you get that answer, keep it to yourself or ask it in the thread. Don't get modkilled accidentally over something stupid (just a heads up since you had issues in XXXIV).
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Up finally. It would also be suspicious as fuck for Chezinu if he said he was masoned by two people then two masons wound up dead that night. This applies to whoever got masoned second too, but I don't think its anything more than a null tell.
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On January 26 2013 02:31 Vivax wrote: I think that x would be suspicious, but I don't think x is anything more than a null tell? It would be suspicious if both masons wound up dead. Because they didn't, you can't tell since if he's town he wouldn't kill them, if he's scum he wouldn't necessarily kill them and risk getting outed for it.
Jesus, read before you post.
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@BKE Do you have any games played as scum? I vaguely remember one, but the database doesn't have it so its a real possibility I'm dumb.
Gonna check on mkfuba. He's kinda slid under my radar the entire game.
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On January 26 2013 02:46 Vivax wrote: Just think about why we lynched mafia last day. It wasn't cause you listened to Toad, FT and gonzaw wanting to kill Oats.
You caught someone because of a check. If it wasn't a bus (I don't think it was), you're probably going to be locked down until you're killed so you might want to try and actually catch some scum instead of using your PR as credit.
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On January 26 2013 03:00 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 02:56 annul wrote:On January 26 2013 02:39 DearestSnot wrote: Annul, what Toad said. It'd help immensely to know what we're thinking if you read our posts. okay, so you both have top 3 of: Chez, BKE mkfuba fivetouch? As bugs said, read our posts. BKE .... Chez ..................... Axlegreaser is my current best guess. I think fuba is probably town.
Just curious, what makes you think Fuba is town? Reading his filter is iffy for me. Definitely not as good a lynch as BKE or maybe Chez (I haven't checked his filter well yet) but I think he's pretty likely to be the third scum. Note that my thinking is incredibly biased because I feel like his style is very similar to my own meta at the moment, and his play exactly like how I would play scum for my first time. This post in particular really stood out to me.
On January 22 2013 06:15 mkfuba07 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 04:59 sandroba wrote: Yes, definitely. I'm wary on lynching prpl based on FT voters. Oats may still not be mafia, i don't think mkfuba can. Also I'm back to JX being likely scum based on how the thread is going and his activity after his suspicion faded away. You actually think it's impossible for me to be town based on my posts? I'll be the first to admit that I'm bringing little to the table right now (no one is constantly aware of it as much as I am), but I'm giving what I can. I don't see how I'm 100% scum, especially when I know that it's just the opposite. I find that people frown upon reads based on unexplained "feelings", which is pretty much all I have regarding everyone in this game thus far. Things that other people have latched onto as significant evidence of town or scum aren't really convincing me. I don't know if I'm just not following, or I disagree. I guess I'm mainly just waiting for my "A-ha!" moment, the one where I feel something's up, and am able to pinpoint its source. Until then, I'm roughly an observer. That's why I ask for questions, to force my own involvement. To give me a means of entering the game. Otherwise, I'll just argue with myself instead of posting in the thread. I did it in the game you linked, as well. As for what I said sounding "fake", I don't know what to tell you. I felt like I finally had something to latch onto. That got taken away. Now all I have are a few town reads, and some "maybe scum" reads that I'm basically taking from the people I'm thus far trusting. What I said was how I felt.
He's defending his playstyle which is similar to mine but he's defending stuff he hasn't really done this game. In Acme (The game mentioned in the quote) he wasn't active but he asked good questions when he was there. In this game his questions have been shit and he has been using other peoples reads the entire time for his reads. This entire post is just a plea to let him live because he'll have a revelation.
I've got to go to work now but I'll be phone posting and would love to keep discussing this.
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On January 26 2013 06:43 austinmcc wrote:Just a random side note stutters, look at the start of the post you don't like: Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:15 mkfuba07 wrote:On January 22 2013 04:59 sandroba wrote: Yes, definitely. I'm wary on lynching prpl based on FT voters. Oats may still not be mafia, i don't think mkfuba can. Also I'm back to JX being likely scum based on how the thread is going and his activity after his suspicion faded away. You actually think it's impossible for me to be town based on my posts? I'll be the first to admit that I'm bringing little to the table right now (no one is constantly aware of it as much as I am), but I'm giving what I can. I don't see how I'm 100% scum, especially when I know that it's just the opposite. Yes I'm doing x, but ... It's that same thing I pointed out in one of your early posts D1, something that I find to indicate mafia posts. His bit isn't as explicit as saying "I'm doing this specific thing, but I'm also doing these other things," however, it falls into that pattern. Oh I agree completely. That was one of the things that stood out. But what bugs me about it is that he was lurky, but aggressive. This game he's passive as all hell and appears to be riding his meta, which is exactly what'd I do in his position with a similar meta. I know it's a biased as shit read, but I'm sharing what I see to generate discussion and hear what people ego have more experience with him think.
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And I agree as in I noticed that, but I don't think it's scummy on its own. I'm hardly one to call lurking a scumtell, but it merits looking into and I don't see him matching the level of caring or effort as much as acme and combined with how I would play scum so similarly if I rolled it I think it's a very good probability that he's using that post to avoid contributing because of his meta.
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On January 26 2013 08:35 Vivax wrote:Just to emphasize what yamato posted IN CONSECUTIVE POSTS:
Show nested quote +His activity dropping off is also consistent with his town game, tbh, so I'm not worried about him. It's like you guys' read on Chezinu, there's really not much to say either way.
Show nested quote + His activity in the town-game never dropped off in the middle of the game for a sustained period like it has here.
Come on, concrete wall, break!Break! Where in his filter is that. I'd like to see it in context.
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On January 26 2013 10:10 Toadesstern wrote: ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?! What?
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Keep forgetting the sherrif has rbs/saves. Never mind.
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On January 26 2013 10:23 Vivax wrote: I'll be watching you with my additional knowledge...See you at the next deadline. Who did you check?
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