On January 26 2013 10:26 Vivax wrote:
It helps me in the same way it helped me during D1 when I didn't immediately hand it out:

Scum don't know how to behave.

Or you could stop being cryptic and help the town.

Regarding BKE unless we hear of a successful save he needs to flip. We won't know if bugs was double stacked unless a medic claims a save on him.

Stutters695

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January 26 2013 01:32 GMT

#2753

Not getting that reference.

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January 26 2013 02:16 GMT

#2769

Well we have a double lynch today and mafia kp should be at 1 by the end of the day so we're in great shape. Unless we can confirm that there was a stack on bugs or a save elsewhere BKE needs to die so then we have 1 spot for four potentials. Personally Mocsta feels much more town than he did in NMMXXXV, so personally I'd rule him out for today over fuba or Yamato. With the bomb claim we could let that sit on Chez tonight and double lynch him and whoever is still alive from this group tomorrow. Gonna read over yamatos filter, not sure which of them I think would be the best second lynch.

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January 26 2013 02:29 GMT

#2772

On January 26 2013 07:58 DearestSnot wrote:

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yo, two hours till deadline and I'm still waiting on this shit.

chop chop buddy

Following up. Anything or are you just going to lurk until we lynch you?

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January 26 2013 03:10 GMT

#2774

I forgot the quote would be hidden. I posted it since bugs is dead and we still haven't heard from bke.

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January 26 2013 17:21 GMT

#2839

On January 27 2013 02:16 mkfuba07 wrote:
In case you were wondering, this is what I had written before deciding to just start playing the game. I'm still willing to answer any questions :D

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I hope I'm not taking a page out of Vivax's book, but how exactly am I putting in work and not putting in work at the same time?

Perhaps if you point out some of the pointless shit I could explain why I mentioned it. I'm pretty sure I had reasons for saying everything I've said.

Because you're throwing out posts where you type a shitload, and then speculate while saying you haven't actually read. There is no reason to take anything you say seriously with how you're playing and you should know this. Who should we lynch in your opinion after BKE/Chez and why?

Stutters695

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January 26 2013 17:59 GMT

#2842

You're right, I was thinking of BKE I believe. Seeing your most recent thing about checking filters made me think of it. But yours isn't much better. What original reads have you done? Why should we believe you're town when you've asked a question or two, not followed it up or just sheeped a vets reads all game. I have a really similar meta to you so I understand when you can't play for a while the goal is living so you can help later, but I don't see an eagerness to help. I'm seeing all of the survival traits without any sort of care for how the town does and that concerns me because it's almost exactly how I would play scum for my first time.

As for your questions, I'm not sold in them being town but I do agree that the odds are incredibly likely that the scum are out of you four (I have a slight town read on mocsta because his play feels different from newbie xxxv but since the circumstances are so different I can't say he's outright town h.

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January 26 2013 18:57 GMT

#2846

On January 27 2013 03:23 Toadesstern wrote:

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yeah I'd add you to the "not confirmed" list as well. There's really no reason to think Vivax is mafia but he might be playing the game of his life and if he's mafia that would explain some things but it would also mean he's incredibly good at what he's doing.

Oats and Axle are both confirmed town.

If Vivax was scum he'd be paying so far above his play in YANMM that it seems very unlikely. There are some similarities between the game but I get the impression he doesn't thoroughly read as well as he should so he misrepresents stuff from time to time(i need to verify that in his filter). It feels way different though because despite his retarded tunnel approach he is being way more open to arguments than he was. Not much of a town read on its own but between how far above his last game he'd be and that feel is enough to ignore him for now.

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January 26 2013 19:37 GMT

#2855

FT do you believe BKEs claim?

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January 26 2013 20:41 GMT

#2869

I'll be trying to get as much as we can out of the time, but we're in such a good position that mafia can't possibly think they're winning currently. You might flip town (very much doubt it) but there is no reason to believe you're town and you should realize that how you're playing doesn't help.

When you flip/if we were to switch, who would you say is scum?

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January 26 2013 22:44 GMT

#2886

On January 27 2013 07:18 Vivax wrote:

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I speculated about that option earlier as well, but to be honest they would trade a kill of a more useful townie than BKE against the mislynch of a BKE that isn't of use to town, so I think it's unlikely and would be really bad play by scum.

Quote2: Medic should only claim if he saved somebody. Pointless to claim when scum double stacked on Bugs. Even if he claims we won't know BKE's alignment.

With all courtesy: That's a bad suggestion.

BKE was jailed. That means that if he is scum they only had 1kp and couldn't double stack. Absolutely if there was a save on bugs and the medic got confirmation he should claim.

Stutters695

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January 26 2013 22:47 GMT

#2887

Annul what happens to your bomb with a chez lynch? Never played with the bomber before.

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January 26 2013 23:14 GMT

#2901

FT Do you consider it worth it to lose a mad hatter to lynch chez? Annul made a pretty good point about safety in having you and him alive towards lylo as long as we ensure mafia has 1kp from now on.

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January 27 2013 01:11 GMT

#2919

On January 27 2013 09:29 Vivax wrote:
It's not gonzaw.

Who did x contact first? Who censored the information?

Seems pretty obvious chez censored it.

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January 27 2013 01:23 GMT

#2920

Ebwop sorry that sounds a lot more dickish than it sounded in my head.

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January 27 2013 01:27 GMT

#2921

Annul forgive me if this has been asked and I missed it, but why did you keep your bomb on Chezinu through n2? He was a pretty clear top candidate as soon as the d2 flip happened. Wouldn't it have made sense to move it to one of the other scummy people who probably wouldn't be lynched?

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January 27 2013 18:44 GMT

#3099

Should we double lynch to get rid of another scummy person to get more out of the day out is the second double lynch better saved for late game if we get that far?

Stutters695

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January 27 2013 19:00 GMT

#3101

True, I guess there is no rush. Just seemed like eliminating potentials quickly would result in a faster catch. Still a little weary dragging games out after YANMM where 1 mislynch cost us the game due to modkills.

Stutters695

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January 27 2013 20:10 GMT

#3105

Now that you've caught up Adam, any thoughts on bugs reads and the general direction we're going in?

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January 27 2013 23:32 GMT

#3133

Why bother voting vivax this close to the deadline. It clearly isn't going to affect things. Do you disagree with the assessment that BKE is mafia?