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Vivax
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I would prefer you as mayor over all current other options, and I'm not going to lynch you cause you hit the wrong target once or twice. But I demand an open hear to this promising newcomer I am, and I want to communicate that I am a good candidate for mayor too. I don't trust all others, just clarity if he impresses me with the reads he's going to come up with. | ||
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If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use. If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position. Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position. I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah. | ||
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Vivax
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On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote: Vivax wtf kind of post is this? Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise. Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate. This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you. Yamato, you seem to not be able or willing to view things from my position. I do care a lot about who becomes mayor, hence my initial candidacy. Why am I just voting the guy who is seen as the strongest town player in here and at the same time the guy who finds JieXian scummy along with me? You only mention the "if he's scum"-argument, that looks like you have a predisposition to paint me scummy in the first place... Why would you want to vote for Chezinu? That is something people that don't care about town would do. I wouldn't put my faith into a guy who speaks in riddles. | ||
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So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now? | ||
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On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote: Good to know. So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now? Hello yamato. Why would you like a dearestsnot election? Who do you think is scum besides me? | ||
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I find it concerning that you first defend a Chezinu election and then say you wouldn't vote for him. I thought you would be pushing your favourite candidate besides yourself. | ||
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On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote: Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did. I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game. 1. And why would you want to know why Toad wouldn't want to elect WBG if you don't want to elect him? 2. Wrong answer bro. You find people scummy for attacking Chezinu? Why only me and not FH or prplhz? Cause I want to elect the potentially strongest townie into that seat? | ||
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On January 21 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote: Are you, like, trying to OMGUS me right here or something, because I'm not sure if you're being intentionally thick just to try to make me look bad or if you're actually this stupid. Why wouldn't I want to know why Toad doesn't want WBG elected? I find your attack on Chezinu scummy. I didn't say anything about anyone else, nor do I necessarily agree with the "Chezinu Rule" concept. The way you dismissed everyone I consider to be a candidate worth voting for just to justify your useless vote on Sandroba was scummy. The fact that you took extra special attention to blowing off Chezinu makes me think you simply want to discredit his candidacy for reasons I have yet to hear from your mouth. Comprende, hombre? 1. Cause a) In reality you don't give a shit about WBG being elected b) You don't suspect Toad to be scum anyway. So your question was pointless, you just tried to ask some random shit to look like you're contributing. 2. I don't want to vote for Chezinu cause he trolls and is almost impossible to read. The Chezinu rule has nothing to do with this, you're just mentioning it for I don't know what reason. Probably cause you can't explain why you ignore everyone else speaking against a Chezinu mayor. I am scummy for voting the strongest town player in here. Ok. Speaks for itself. Yamato is scum. | ||
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Dude, if you are town (which I kinda doubt cause you promised self-improvement last time I saw you somewhere else): You have 4 pages of filter of which a lot of posts are aggressive, low content spam. You aren't achieving anything but calling candidates bad without pushing your own preferences. Your posts aren't consolidated, and you disregard the opinions of 4 vets. In light of your overconfidence you are aware of you should actually use them properly. @ debears Me and Toad aren't the scum you're looking for. Yamato might be but it's still early. Djo is..an interesting choice. I like your play so far. Don't underestimate me in this game though, I'm asking you to vote me into a seat. @ gonzaw There are questions directed at you in my filter that you still have to answer. I don't care if you think I'm town, I'm not voting for you. And I know you won't be voting for me. @ Toad I really appreciate your contributions in the latest pages that appeared since I posted last. Knowing that you support me and FT, I can trust into you being working for town. I would appreciate however if you didn't refer to me as stupid or idiot. You never know who's sitting behind the keyboard, and you don't take into account how fast I can improve. I think my strategies and reads have improved a lot lately. I don't have as much experience as others in this forum, don't draw conclusions about my intelligence or ability to learn then. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Regarding the discussion about my candidacy post: It was a good way to waste time in the last pages. If you want to know, I started writing that post after I got my role pm. But I can't prove it and it doesn't even matter. Look at my other play. How I push my candidacy doesn't matter either. You know I want to be elected, and when I don't constantly spam that it doesn't mean I don't want it any more. I pressured JX, Djo, gonzaw and yamato into giving out information in a way that breaks their usual posting style. Specific information. I managed to get yamato very worked up to the point where he started replying in a subjectively quite scummy way. Same goes for JX who replied to me with rather big delays, compared to the content he posted in that long time he needed to make the posts. I am working pro-information, and I'm not sticking endlessly to the same target. I'm active, and I post transparently. Although I'm not giving you out all my reads, yet. You will absolutely not regret me being elected. | ||
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Vivax
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Say, why do you think Djodref is scum? Would you support a candidate who wants to lynch him? | ||
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Then I assume, since me and Toad are probably not going to get lynched today, that you will vote for the candidate that lynches Djo? @ Oatsmaster Would you support me/Toad/Sandro as elected role? If FT stops wanting to lynch you, will you support him? ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ After looking at his meta, I support a prplhz lynch as well. I especially looked at his town meta: Looney lynching - town → More outspoken, more active, doesn't act as much as like he's not giving fuck as he does in this game. Rockband Mini - town → Shares reads very early, opposes random lynching (here he asks for Chez lynch immediately). Doesn't act like he doesn't give a fuck (as here). Significantly becomes more active when his mislynch is gaining steam. He posts a lot with not much time difference between the posts. | ||
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Well, I'm counting on you to vote FT then. I fear your chances of getting a seat are worse than mine though. Aren't you aware of that? @ Oats I have quite a few people I would lynch. But I don't think calling them all out would be beneficial to my cause. Bad timing, and it would be pointless without the mayors' seat in prospect. You didn't answer by the way. Would you vote FT if he didn't want to lynch you? Or, to ask it differently: Why aren't you convinced by the prplhz matter? It doesn't seem to interest you. You say FT looks so townish, but you aren't interested into his current scumread? | ||
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On January 21 2013 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote: I agree with the Prplhz stuff, in terms of the difference in meta. HOWEVER, I dont see his actions to be objectively scummy yet. 5 touch has expressed interest in lynching me as opposed to prplhz at this point of time. Must of skipped over this Vivax huh. No I saw it. I just want you to stick to a decision. Looks to me like you're trying to keep a back-door open. I would think about voting him Who else would you vote besides him? What do you mean by "objectively scummy"? Isn't his big difference in play objectively scummy? Announcing a candidacy by just wanting to kill Chez? Being so inactive? | ||
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On January 21 2013 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Objectively scummy means that without reference to meta, lets say its his first game, how is wanting to policy lynch Chez inherently scummy? Well if 5touch wants to lynch someone that isnt me but someone I think is town, I will not vote for him. If he wants to lynch someone I think is scum, I would probably vote for him IF nothing changes. Mafia is a changing game and you gotta adapt. You needed some time to think about that answer eh? So you think using meta is subjective? I take that your current scumread is gonzaw? Anyone else? | ||
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On January 22 2013 00:11 annul wrote: i find it funny that my analyses and accusations have gone completely ignored That's cause they suck and everyone knows it . | ||
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[list] [*] You mention that I attack people out of OMGUS. Why don't you consider the counter-examples in your reasoning? I didn't attack everyone for suspecting me. You should know this best since you were one of them. [*] You think my cases are bad and that I'm scum. That implies two things: You have a town read on JX, and you have a town read on yamato. Is this correct? [*] You didn't push yamato as mayor candidate when he announced it even though I'm your top scumread and you probably think he's town. You don't express a preference for mayor candidates at all, so tell me: Why so disinterested in who gets the spot? Who are your favourite candidates? [*] I am just one possible scum out of five. Did you form any scumreads outside of me? | ||
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Gonzaw isn't trustworthy for shoveling shit at me for being absent after my candidacy like JX did + trying to be overly politically correct to everyone. austin isn't trustworthy for using artificial reasons to defend JX and picking stutters as lynch candidate. Austin used the argument: "Slight paranoia is townie" cause he wrote something about a Toad jester. Austin clearly didn't give a shit about JXs alignment from the start. That's my interpretation. FT already pointed out that this was a mistake. Seriously, stay the fuck away from gonzaw and austin. I'd rather have Chezinu mayor than these two. | ||
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As vet you should know best about sandros accuracy, and you making such a mistake while analysing sandros scumread shows that you were sloppy where you shouldn't be. It was a big mistake. We don't have a jester, and you didn't follow JXs line of thought. Following the line of thought is essential in finding scum, so I assume you didn't have that intention when commenting on his post, intention you should have when sandro points it out and you are town. | ||
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