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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:12 austinmcc wrote: How does knowing about what I'm doing factor into this, specifically? It sure doesn't make my reads right. I have a hard time believing someone of your ability at this game has been this wrong the whole game. Not to mention, why are you trying to equate yourself to Axle when town is lynching him at the moment? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I'm equating myself to Axle because we happen to be those two players. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I'll spare you the work of clicking twice. It's on Axle. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:13 mkfuba07 wrote: Alright, some points that caught my attention when reading through clarity and Adam's filters: Clarity: Runs for mayor based on a platform of being a townie townie and creating a good atmosphere D1. It actually kinda sounds like he's just running for "townie". Seems strange to emphasize one of your strengths D1 when town wants a mayor for more than just one day. Promises Djo reads, never gave them. Not sure what we can draw from this, since he then disappeared after that. I think this is standing out to me because Djo was really suspicious of clarity and he died N1. He also questioned why Djo was asking so many question, which is kind of a weird thing to be suspicious of. However, Djo said clarity returned to his null zone, so I’m not sure what to think. Adam: Talks about relatively unimportant things instead of the important ones Has some weird/weak reasons to find people townie He doubted the chezinu lynch because chezinu followed the chezinu rule Mosca seemed particularly suspicious of him because of how adam was deciding people were town, and he died last night (was he the only one? Marv commented on the reasoning, but he couldn't be killed.) Then there's the ninja vote that I can't really take offense to (I did it, I'm pretty sure others did as well), but he WAS absent for about 34 hours before he returned to the thread with nothing to add Right now, top scumreads are austin and adam. I think they're scummy apart, and I think their motivations seem to mesh really well together. (also possible scumslip? lol) So, you summarize my filter into half a dozen lines and I become one of your top scum reads? If you find that list to be indicative of me being scum, you need to explain why, because you haven't done so. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I think he's unreadable. You are not. Your association is meaningful. Let me ask you this, why do you want to lynch Axle? Is there a reason I can find in your filter? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
So I'm going to go with what you've been saying right now, which is that he's under suspicion for "similar reasons" as you are, which you have realized to be your associations with the flipped mafia. So why is Axle mafia for it and you're not? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:25 yamato77 wrote: So why are you trying to convince me to think of you like the guy you want to lynch? I think he's unreadable. You are not. Your association is meaningful. Let me ask you this, why do you want to lynch Axle? Is there a reason I can find in your filter? I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You reacted differently to very similar information. This isn't going anywhere though. I want to know why I'm mafia because of x, but x is inconclusive evidence as to axle (as far as your reads were concerned). Especially when it concerns things like votes, which aren't unreadable posts, which are ENTIRELY readable because you just look at who they're on. If axle flips red, then, depending on why you were differentiating us, you might look bad to me. You'd have taken the same information, or similar information, and branded me mafia but branded the mafia dude "inconclusive." That certainly seems like something one might want to follow up on. As to axle, I don't think there's a specific reason in my filter, no. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:29 yamato77 wrote: I just looked. There isn't. So I'm going to go with what you've been saying right now, which is that he's under suspicion for "similar reasons" as you are, which you have realized to be your associations with the flipped mafia. So why is Axle mafia for it and you're not? See my posts about expecting to get crap and how my filter looks? I can understand why I'd look like mafia. I would be suspicious of me in this situation. He's mafia and I'm not because I've seen my PM. Again, I'm asking questions to get a read on you. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
You, however, I have played with before when you were town. You're what I would consider a normal player, so your reads on three confirmed mafias players SHOULD mean something. You're just trying to downplay it. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:36 austinmcc wrote: See my posts about expecting to get crap and how my filter looks? I can understand why I'd look like mafia. I would be suspicious of me in this situation. He's mafia and I'm not because I've seen my PM. Again, I'm asking questions to get a read on you. If you don't have a town read on me at this point in the game I'm just going to consider that a scum claim. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:38 yamato77 wrote: It's inconclusive to me because I don't know how he gets his reads, nor am I particularly sure what those reads are. You, however, I have played with before when you were town. You're what I would consider a normal player, so your reads on three confirmed mafias players SHOULD mean something. You're just trying to downplay it. If I were trying to downplay it, WHY WOULD I BE BRINGING IT UP!? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:40 austinmcc wrote: If I were trying to downplay it, WHY WOULD I BE BRINGING IT UP!? Because you don't want me to think you're mafia. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:40 yamato77 wrote: Because you don't want me to think you're mafia. That makes no sense at all. You can't downplay something by bringing it up... | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:44 austinmcc wrote: That makes no sense at all. You can't downplay something by bringing it up... Obviously if you're going to argue my diction this is going nowhere. Sleep tight, Marv doesn't want you dead yet so you probably won't get lynched tomorrow anyway. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:46 yamato77 wrote: Obviously if you're going to argue my diction this is going nowhere. Sleep tight, Marv doesn't want you dead yet so you probably won't get lynched tomorrow anyway. It's going somewhere. We may not know, but the inconclusive comment from you WAS curious. It's worth teasing out. It's worth following up on why you think I'm downplaying something that I'm bringing up, to see if there's anything there or if it's just a comment you're tossing out offhand. It looks to be more the latter. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote: It's going somewhere. We may not know, but the inconclusive comment from you WAS curious. It's worth teasing out. It's worth following up on why you think I'm downplaying something that I'm bringing up, to see if there's anything there or if it's just a comment you're tossing out offhand. It looks to be more the latter. I give so little of a shit that you're suspicious of me, you don't even know. Good luck with that read, bro. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:23 Adam4167 wrote: So, you summarize my filter into half a dozen lines and I become one of your top scum reads? If you find that list to be indicative of me being scum, you need to explain why, because you haven't done so. Yes. My possible scum at this point are axle, you, stutters, and austin. It's not hard to jump to the top of the list. And there's more reasons than I've listed, but they tend to be smaller and less reliable. Things like you saying that you "choose" to see vivax as an overzealous townie. And reasons that I find you scummy because I find austin scummy, and I can see some interplay between you two (which is reasonably speculative and I shouldn't really consider because neither of you have flipped yet). I didn't name them because they should probably be ignored, but nonetheless they're affecting my read of you. You comment about setup-type stuff when you could be talking about players and reads. There's more of the former than the latter. You find people townie for reasons you shouldn't find people townie. One person showed significant suspicion of you because of this, and that person ended up dead the next day (I think oats also has you on his scumlist, but I don't recall him pushing his reads at all). You said you'd come back in the morning, but you showed up only to ninja vote and go back to lurking. Is that enough explanation? | ||
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Vivax
22338 Posts
Mocsta is dead, Axle is soon dead and Adam is still alive. Out of balance reasons there has to be an Australian in the scum team, at least. If Axle is scum I could also imagine two. | ||
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