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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:38 austinmcc wrote: Mafia has 1 KP max. They're not magically dropping a list of players overnight. irrelevant? if we get a bunch of lynches wrong we're down say 2 more townies from lynches and 2 more almost-confirmed townies from NKs so... double lynch now while they're still around also for other reasons i just mentioned just do what i fucking say for once for god's sake. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Really don't see any ups or downs to be honest. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Otherwise... we could double lynch and then there's not so much of an argument about things. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:40 FiveTouch wrote: irrelevant? if we get a bunch of lynches wrong we're down say 2 more townies from lynches and 2 more almost-confirmed townies from NKs so... double lynch now while they're still around also for other reasons i just mentioned just do what i fucking say for once for god's sake. Do what you fucking say is, in part, a problem that you're saying the double lynch will help solve. If we get a bunch of lynches wrong and are losing townies, I don't see how a double lynch helps that. We're magically going to double lynch scum or 2 scum when we couldn't single lynch scum for 2-3 days? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:45 austinmcc wrote: Do what you fucking say is, in part, a problem that you're saying the double lynch will help solve. If we get a bunch of lynches wrong and are losing townies, I don't see how a double lynch helps that. We're magically going to double lynch scum or 2 scum when we couldn't single lynch scum for 2-3 days? ok, i submit to your argument, because you've been so god damn correct this game. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:45 austinmcc wrote: Do what you fucking say is, in part, a problem that you're saying the double lynch will help solve. If we get a bunch of lynches wrong and are losing townies, I don't see how a double lynch helps that. We're magically going to double lynch scum or 2 scum when we couldn't single lynch scum for 2-3 days? also, you appear to be arguing against using a double lynch later, when the only reason we'd use a double lynch later is because we hadn't killed all the mafia yet. so well done there. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:47 FiveTouch wrote: No, I'm for using one later. When mafia has less possible mislynch targets (the folks dead due to single lynches).also, you appear to be arguing against using a double lynch later, when the only reason we'd use a double lynch later is because we hadn't killed all the mafia yet. so well done there. Even if you think we're losing a clear townie every night, we'd also be losing a lynch candidate every day. The clear townies shouldn't be factoring into the math of a double or single lynch either way, because we're just not lynching them. But the number of lynch candidates remaining DOES effect the math, and we only get better odds by waiting. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:45 FiveTouch wrote: I've been wrong in a bunch of my reads. This is read-independent. I was wrong about a couple of non-read things this game for a bit, but those also aren't at issue here. Not sure why you're getting defensive/offensive here.ok, i submit to your argument, because you've been so god damn correct this game. To the extent you want a double lynch to get people talking, this is another way to get people talking. Not as valuable talk as who they want to lynch and reads, but it's still pulling people into the game during what otherwise seems to just be a dead remainder of the cycle. Or not, seeing as nobody else wants to say anything. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On January 31 2013 00:52 FiveTouch wrote: Ninja votes, promises to contribute without doing so. Hi Adam. Hi friend. I didn't feel like I had anything overly important to contribute, so I didn't. Anything you'd care to discuss? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
And then I probably won't be able to stop what I think is a completely suboptimal lynch, and it'll be rubbish. Whereas if we double lynch, town will much more readily agree to my lynch target, if there's another one up for grabs. It's basically a win for everyone. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:52 FiveTouch wrote: Why are you so incapable of just trusting my judgement? Jesus :/ I'm fine with your judgment when I think it's right  I just don't think it is in this case. I don't see this as a judgment call at all, I think it's just straight-up better to hold our other double lynch for later. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:58 austinmcc wrote: I'm fine with your judgment when I think it's right I just don't think it is in this case. I don't see this as a judgment call at all, I think it's just straight-up better to hold our other double lynch for later. That's because you judge the 'maths' or 'objective information' - say gonzaw not masoning anyone - over such things as thread atmosphere and town morale (or gonzaw not doing anything) | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:56 Adam4167 wrote: Hi friend. I didn't feel like I had anything overly important to contribute, so I didn't. Anything you'd care to discuss? I think you're mafia | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
(still working on clarity/adam stuff) | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
That's unfortunate. Incorrect also. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:58 FiveTouch wrote: I swear you didn't type this British before being outed.What's going to happen tomorrow right. Is that there's gonna be some people shouting that you should get lynched. And some people shouting that annul should get lynched. And Toad probably saying fuba should get lynched. And then I probably won't be able to stop what I think is a completely suboptimal lynch, and it'll be rubbish. Whereas if we double lynch, town will much more readily agree to my lynch target, if there's another one up for grabs. It's basically a win for everyone. That still leaves us what you're calling a rubbish lynch tomorrow. In that case it doesn't stop a suboptimal lynch. That wording makes it sound like we'll just robo-lynch your target of choice and then have a normal lynch discussion concerning target #2, instead of just having a normal lynch discussion concerning the only lynch. I'm going to assume this is just poor wording or whatever, and not push this point. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Having more town-directed KP is always a good thing. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:08 Adam4167 wrote: Whether we use the double lynch tomorrow or on a later cycle, town-directed KP is ALWAYS the same. The timing of the KP changes, but the amount does not.Why is using the double lynch even a discussion? Having more town-directed KP is always a good thing. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:08 austinmcc wrote: I swear you didn't type this British before being outed. That still leaves us what you're calling a rubbish lynch tomorrow. In that case it doesn't stop a suboptimal lynch. That wording makes it sound like we'll just robo-lynch your target of choice and then have a normal lynch discussion concerning target #2, instead of just having a normal lynch discussion concerning the only lynch. I'm going to assume this is just poor wording or whatever, and not push this point. If Axle flips mafia, then we have one mafia left to find. I'd much rather lynch the scummiest two guys right away and increase our odds of hitting mafia right then, drastically, then save it for some hypothetical situation later when town might be in trouble and it's a desperation move, rather than it being an empowering move. I would say it amazes me that you can't see this stuff, or don't consider it more important than your arguments, but it doesn't at all, sadly. | ||
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