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On January 27 2013 11:15 annul wrote: okay good, this is what i wanted to hear. if you have a red that is not chez or BKE, then the game is over. Would you mind explaining this to me?
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On January 27 2013 11:15 annul wrote: okay good, this is what i wanted to hear. if you have a red that is not chez or BKE, then the game is over.
Explain.
I'll tell you this much: I didn't check BKE.
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After being slightly burnt out from the 9 hour catch up session 2 days ago, plus indulging in my countries national holiday, I never made it back to my PC yesterday.
Now that that's out there, Vivax, there's no point being coy with your check. You may as well table it, if its red, we discuss.
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well, there are 3 living mafia... so if you have a third that isnt BKE or chez (who are both mafia), then we have all 3 and the game is over.
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On January 27 2013 11:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 11:06 annul wrote: CAN SOMEONE GET ME A LIST OF ALL CLAIMED AND CONFIRMED MASONS THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF, PLEASE? this is particularly important. grush, Chez, Toad, gonzaw, the Chez guy I don't want to reveal yet and an "unknown" mason...
well, outside of "grush, Chez, Toad, gonzaw" i can confirm a fifth. whether my fifth is your #5/6 i dunno.
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First I want to hear what annul has to say and reasons for people to suspect/not suspect yamato. My filter is full of stuff against him.
On January 24 2013 16:16 yamato77 wrote: This post of Oats, along with other things like his willingness to give out reads, his overall activity level, and his fairly unnecessary (if mafia) case on Gonzaw, makes me believe that he is town.
The fact that he's continued to pursue his read on Gonzaw today is quite telling to me. When he posted the case at night, I believed he would have done so with the idea that it was cheap town cred to do something like this at night when there was no lynch on the line. However, today I see that he's fairly invested in the idea that Gonzaw is mafia, something that I feel a lot of people are at the moment.
Basically, if you think Gonzaw is mafia, Oats is far likelier to be town.
*snip*
Vivax could still be mafia.
*snip*
Gonzaw is an interesting idea.
*snip*
He has a few of these types of posts in his filter, where he softdefends a player (often Vivax actually).
*snip*
While this is not a strong mafia tell, it is what I have managed to find in his filter after a short bit of diving. I am fairly confident in the possibility of him being mafia for these reasons, along with those that the rest of town has posted. I will resume my filter dive of him tomorrow, and either confirm my own bias or perhaps see something that might change my mind.
On January 24 2013 16:18 yamato77 wrote: ##Vote: Gonzaw ##Vote: Double Lynch
(not sure if my previous unvote counts for both so I'll reassure the vote)
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I have another mason who apparently masoned me a couple of hours ago. Not gonna tell you though :p
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On January 27 2013 11:28 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 11:17 Vivax wrote:On January 27 2013 11:06 annul wrote: CAN SOMEONE GET ME A LIST OF ALL CLAIMED AND CONFIRMED MASONS THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF, PLEASE? this is particularly important. grush, Chez, Toad, gonzaw, the Chez guy I don't want to reveal yet and an "unknown" mason... well, outside of "grush, Chez, Toad, gonzaw" i can confirm a fifth. whether my fifth is your #5/6 i dunno.
Is your fifth the unknown of the PM?
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On January 27 2013 10:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:49 Vivax wrote: I don't think medic gets confirmation if the target dies.
But yeah, I just realized I made a mistake in thinking, forget what I just posted about medic not claiming if he targeted Bugs.
If the medic targeted Bugs we know for sure that BKE is town, actually.
Toad looked SO sure that Bugs hadn't been targeted though. medic usually gets confirmation if they saved their target from 1 hit, even if they ended up dying. So yeah if there's a medic who protected bugs from 1 KP and he still ended up dead the medic should claim. I don't think it happened though.
I agree that makes complete sense, any medic would clearly do that, if i were a medic i would do that, as i assume most people here know the standard protocols better than me, i was sure there was no such medic.
and so I voted for BKE
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On January 27 2013 11:30 Vivax wrote: First I want to hear what annul has to say and reasons for people to suspect/not suspect yamato. My filter is full of stuff against him.
Honestly, I lean somewhat town on Yamato. He has a stack of soft defenses for prplhz in his filter, which don't look great after his flip, but I find his frustration to be genuine and his curiousness real, if hes faking it - hes doing a really great job of it.
I'm thinking the last mafia is probably elsewhere.
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Im guessing vivax got a grewn check and assumes godfathet. Hence the being coy
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yamato is the red check obviously
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Adam now that u have caught up. And have a view that is not tainted from being in the moment
A few have put me as 50/50. What is ur take.
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Town. Telling vivax and toad to put their stupid sadfest on hold was very town.
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Hmmm agree on town
disagree on heuristic though.
Any alignment can break up a fight.
Adam. Pls share thoughts on annul. As in if assumed town. Why!
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On January 27 2013 12:15 debears wrote: yamato is the red check obviously I only havr phone access today. But i dont recall vivax stating he got a red check..
Hence i assume he got green and wants to pressure to determine if godfather.
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vivax: at what time will you reveal your red check?
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Adam.. just a general question to figure out your mind set now that you have settled in.
You called me town before, lets reverse the situation.
You say "Mocsta felt town, but now Im leaning scum"
I say to you "well Adam... we have nothing left to discuss"
what is your read on the situation?
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okay, let us preempt this now.
mocsta is another mason. he is masoning me today. he masons me and tells me, among other things, that he thinks i am "60% likely" to be scum. so i laughed at him and told him i was done talking to him.
the bottom line is this: we have something like 6 masons in the game so far? at least this is what people are claiming? we know of ONE mafia mason. it makes no sense for there to be 5 town masons in the game and only 1 mafia mason. therefore, at least one of the remaining three reds are also mason.
we should look at all masons in the game because among them is bound to be another red player.
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