MOCSTA: "Annul, I have masoned you, normally I wait for BC to confirm before PM'n, but I have to leave for the next 8-12hrs. You said save Chez for tomorrow. Can you please share your thoughts on why you think he is town? (I have been sticking up for him too) What do you make of him immediately accusing Bugs of checking him when framed as well.."

ANNUL: i do not think he is town. i am mad hatter and my bomb is on him. if he gets lynched, i lose the bomb. therefore, it is better to spend our time trying to find the 5th mafia and leaving him up. he will not be contributing to KP (since BKE is sure to flip red... they will have 1 KP from now until the end of the game regardless) so his presence here is moot. however, hatter with an active bomb is a huge endgame advantage for us if it gets to that point. furthermore, i can move my bomb tonight onto someone random if we can't agree on a lynch for day 4 and we can pop chez tomorrow no problem.

MOCSTA: Wow interesting development. can u pls confirm the lack of activity at the start of the game? It felt like more than just lasertag

MOCSTA (couple hours later): I am still waiting a response

ANNUL: no, i actually tell the truth when i play this game. it was a laser tag tournament and then i went to sleep.

MOCSTA: Hi sorry if u thought i implied u lied. I wasnt. Irl is irl. Im actually asking why u continuef to be absent post day1. If absent is too strong a word. Then take minimal contributor. As a vet i would have thought u would be up to speed quickly

ANNUL: as you saw, at the start of day 2 they were still on my ass. i had to take defensive maneuvers to ensure i lived day 2. as you can see, it worked. now it is day 3, my power is online, and i am active once more. =]

MOCSTA: Y do u want a list of masons

ANNUL: there have been a bunch of masons claimed, and at least one of them is a mafia mason. it makes no sense for there to be SIX (or more!) masons and mafia to only have one of them.

MOCSTA: K.. i have information on masons.. vivax doesnt. give me your list first pls

ANNUL: i have no list. you are the first mason i can confirm. toad is almost certainly mason as well. grush claimed mason. and gonzaw was a mason. so i have four claimed/confirmed masons i am aware of.

MOCSTA: I am still developing trust between us. I dont like when ppl claim as u have in general. It makes me uneasy. To hand an olive branch. I will share that i masonrd Chez day1 and ft day2. I know more masons than this though...

ANNUL: what percentage chance (0% = guaranteed town, 100% = guaranteed mafia) do you think i am mafia?

MOCSTA: Before the hatter i wsd 40%...now 50 to 60.... Next q

ANNUL: then we have no further need to converse.

MOCSTA: Interesting approach. Very Similar to chezinu. Noted. 50 doesnt exist anymore.

MOCSTA: Oohh mr mafia man, im so bored, why dost you not enchant me with your mad hattery wisdom?

(end of logs)

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

January 27 2013 07:48 GMT

#2963

Do you not believe that Chezinu is a mason?

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

January 27 2013 07:52 GMT

#2964

On January 26 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote:
The fact that you find Annul more likely town than me is mind boggling.

Maybe I should lynch you for being stupid.

Ugh this game is getting to me.

First, an apology. I did finally go through your whole filter, and there's no way I'm voting for you this game. I don't feel like it even requires explanation.

I still have filters to go through, but I finally have a possible scumread. Unfortunately, I'm not ready to give it yet. It still feels a bit too much like my ridiculous case in acme. I need flips. Until then I'll keep looking through filters.

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

January 27 2013 07:58 GMT

#2965

tsk tsk Annul.

you spoil all the fun.. why o why could you not wait for the answer from Adam?

its not like I implied you directly in anything.. how curious your motives.

yes I am a mason.. but why o why do you need to interject in this manner.. curious motives INDEED.

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

January 27 2013 08:31 GMT

#2966

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

January 27 2013 08:40 GMT

#2967

damn double posts

annul

United States2841 Posts

January 27 2013 08:45 GMT

#2968

i knew where it was going. time to head it off at the pass before it gets there. i am not going to allow a potential red to frame the discussion against me. fact is, you are a mason. logic dictates that there is at least one more mason on the red team. maybe it's you? your faux-aggression against me in a mason PM, plus your attempt to defend chez to me by utterly miscategorizing my position (seriously, do you even read the thread?) and your goal to put me on the defensive as if i have to "give you information" because of your "suspicions" is very, very red-like behavior.

i would not be surprised if you were vivax's red check, but alas, nothing said here today matters whatsoever because in the end, the fifth and final red will be revealed anyway... barring a LUCKY framer n2.

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

January 27 2013 08:54 GMT

#2969

lol.. you knew where it was going, why were u scared of the outcome enough to need to cut in?

As for Chez... Im surprised with your vet insight that you have not put two and two together:
I am the mason that suggested to FT that Chez may be town due to the knowledge he possessed of me during night 1.
I still think I would have been a better candidate than JX for a NK. Nothing said by Bugs persuaded me away from this.

So moral of the story is.. if you want to continue pretending to scum hunt - keep thinking I am red. If the above post is all your justification, the riposte above is weak at best and a waste of time to read at worse.

annul

United States2841 Posts

January 27 2013 09:06 GMT

#2970

"knowledge he had of me night 1"

and what "knowledge" is this? he had no "knowledge" of you night 1 because nobody can have "knowledge" of anyone night 1. any DT checks etc would not be returned until dawn of day 2 anyway. so, what are you implying? hax? did he find BC/kurumi's spreadsheet?

or maybe your arguments are fabrications?

annul

United States2841 Posts

January 27 2013 09:07 GMT

#2971

alright, you are as good a choice as any. i think you are a mafia mason. that means its BKE, chez, and you... and since chez is bombed by me, you will be my vote for today.

##vote BKE + mocsta

annul

United States2841 Posts

January 27 2013 09:09 GMT

#2972

AND HEY TOWN: please stop voting chez today. there is literally no reason whatsoever to vote him today. none. save my bomb and pile onto him on a future day if we absolutely whiff today. an active hatter is much more important to have in a potential late game scenario.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

January 27 2013 09:16 GMT

#2973

Well yeah I agree with annul, Cause I think he is town.
There is absolutly no reason not to unvote Chez if you think that Annul is town.

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

January 27 2013 09:23 GMT

#2974

LOl Annul.. what an odd reaction from you

I thought it was scum who was too lazy to filter search?

My approach has stayed consistent.. yours on the other hand.. well theres a fair bit to say. You are over-reacting to small situations, now even going OMGUS into a vote. Thats not consistent with town motives Annul. Not in my book at least.

On January 26 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote:
(2) To all doubters of Chez being town due to PM because he may have convinced the masons he was town... before that post, everyone was saying Chez is unreadable, hence its VERY unlikely he convinced anyone he was town... so considering that, it doesnt make sense to me for the mafia to have kept the two masons alive (or at least one of them instead of JX) when they had two masons that most likely thought NULL of Chez

As for your random insert of Mad-Hatter

On January 26 2013 22:19 Mocsta wrote:
Right now im for bke.

As for 2nd vote. I would go annul.
If annul is mad hatter we take out chezI who could be scum
if annul is bullshitting than we take out a scum

looka like win win to me.

I still think this is the best course of action all The way Annul has reacted to my prodding, is completely over the top. If he isnt lying we take out Chezinu potential, and if he is lying then we have taken out scum.

AND.. if you want the PM I sent to FT regarding Chez before Night 2 ended here it is to confirm my thoughts on Chezinu

Mocsta: Subject: chezinu innocence
Date: 1/25/13 23:49
Hey. Last pm from me before cycle finishes.

I had a brain wave and wanted to pass it by u. If u agree with logic and i die tonight u r welcome to post this in the thread.

Day1 two masons contacted chez.
Day2 the same two masons contacted u.

U think both masons are town... If chez was mafia. Why werent me and the other mason killed?
Neither of us would have a chance to communicate we contacted chezinu.. So would be easy one or two blue kills...

I thought of this because someone suggested jx may have been an attempted blue snipe. If chez was scum it would make sense in my mind to hit me instead of jx...hence i think chezinu is now innocent.

P.s thanks for listening to my rambles on the pm . I enjoyed this cycle a lot. Good luck with day 3

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

January 27 2013 10:16 GMT

#2975

Hey Mocsta, do you think Chez is town?

annul

United States2841 Posts

January 27 2013 11:11 GMT

#2976

btw vivax needs to post his check pretty much ASAP so we can adjust our plans for the day

Chezinu

United States7468 Posts

January 27 2013 11:23 GMT

#2977

Should I just post all my pms?

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

January 27 2013 11:24 GMT

#2978

On January 27 2013 18:09 annul wrote:
AND HEY TOWN: please stop voting chez today. there is literally no reason whatsoever to vote him today. none. save my bomb and pile onto him on a future day if we absolutely whiff today. an active hatter is much more important to have in a potential late game scenario.

your bomb just won't trigger no matter what if you're telling the truth.

Mafia is not going to shoot you and we're not going to lynch you. Have fun being a VT.

Chezinu

United States7468 Posts

January 27 2013 11:24 GMT

#2979

Oh and I was testing to see if you, debear, were mafia or not.

Chezinu

United States7468 Posts

January 27 2013 11:26 GMT

#2980

On January 27 2013 20:24 Toadesstern wrote:

Show nested quote +

your bomb just won't trigger no matter what if you're telling the truth.

Mafia is not going to shoot you and we're not going to lynch you. Have fun being a VT.

Hello Toad!

How's it going?