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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:12 Acid~ wrote: Can you make a real case on Slayalot? I want to believe, but you need to convince the other townies as well. No, it's a LAL vote. I only make cases when I vote for scum. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:11 glurio wrote: I'm sorry but i won't switch right now. His claim looks like scum trying to stay alive. He by far made the most mistakes all game. His really suspicious D1 last minute vote switch. He had two scumreads and switched his vote to a lurker. After that he started calling his own reads weak. All this claiming, switching votes randomly. ("How can we seriously lynch any of these people right now, its almost a random lynch." Quote warbaby, while still voting for one of them.) Clear scum for me. I take doc claims seriously, especially in the absence of counter-claims. Remember there is a 5/6 chance of having at least one protective role in this setup and he is the only one who claimed any. Having two people claim doc means one of them is scum 100% and I'm ok with trading a doc for 50% of the scum team. I might not make the same gambit in a larger game, but here it seems advantageous. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:11 glurio wrote: I'm sorry but i won't switch right now. His claim looks like scum trying to stay alive. He by far made the most mistakes all game. His really suspicious D1 last minute vote switch. He had two scumreads and switched his vote to a lurker. After that he started calling his own reads weak. All this claiming, switching votes randomly. ("How can we seriously lynch any of these people right now, its almost a random lynch." Quote warbaby, while still voting for one of them.) Clear scum for me. Towns do not defend. Towns attack. You're putting very little effort into your attack on me. Also, I do also make cases when they're bullshit, to pressure people. I'm not doing that now because I'm too ill to be sure my bullshit cases will be convincing enough to get a rise. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:19 Acid~ wrote: Having two people claim doc means one of them is scum 100% and I'm ok with trading a doc for 50% of the scum team. I might not make the same gambit in a larger game, but here it seems advantageous. I disagree here. I think we should try to protect the blue roles as best as possible. We don't know who the other scum could possibly be (because we've been wasting our time with WB v Acid). They could be another bad player, or they could be someone blending in well enough with the town where it is not obvious. I feel like if we sacrifice the doc now to get 1 scum offed, a good scum could sit here and ruin our day, especially if they had no hinderance to their choice of NK. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
##Vote cDgCorazon If warbaby is telling the truth, and we have no counterclaim to say otherwise, I was set to be lynched N1. What happened N1? I made a case on Corazon. What happened afterwards? corazon made a post defending himself from my read but also going out of his way to say that I was a good town and doing good work. Medic sees that and thinks, "Oh, Corazon likes zarepath; he must not be mafia." Day 2. I assumed all of his posturing with warbaby was to make warbaby look like a bad town so we wouldn't lynch him -- in reality, it was to get him riled up so that we would lynch him but he would look like he was in the right to only consider him bad town. He goes out of his way to say "We have wasted our day going between warbaby and Acid," he always talks about how it's ONLY between those two (nice for mafia planning for us to have to choose between two townies). Corazon has looked scummy, but now that I truly bleieve warbaby is telling the truth, Corazon looks VERY scummy. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
If zarepath is scum (which means there is a JK and I did *not* save Zare N1), and he anticipates that town is at least partially swinging in my favor, then this is an easy mislynch for zarepath. I want to hear others' thoughts on this. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
I truly think that WB is bad town, and that Acid is scum. I've laid out all of my cards on the table. I hate to set off the WIFOM bombs, but Zare was the one who forced me to. As I told Acid, I did not set up the WB v Acid lynch decision. I was trying to prevent it. It's their stubbornness that has caused this to be the focus of D2. It was nothing by my doing. It's also funny how you made a case against me 90 minutes before the lynch deadline, and only used information stemming from 12 hours ago and earlier. Pretty amazing. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:14 cDgCorazon wrote: Seriously Acid, I told you to stop talking about WB like 5 million times. Why won't you let WB go for 5 freaking minutes? Because I want to discuss his doc claim as it seems very important to me, for the reasons outlined in my previous post. Why did you lie about something I did in your first vote post? Why are you lying now? I never lied. Why did you dodge my first argument, say its BS (at least 24 hours later), and now defend yourself when I voted for you? I already went over this, learn to read. Why are you OMGUSing me (you are) I'm not. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Oh_My_God_You_Suck I stated my reasons for voting you, it is not *because* you voted for me, but because of the *reasons*, which are bullshit. when you just blamed Acid for the same thing? Now you're just saying crazy things. You really think my reasons are BS? No one else has said that my reasons are BS http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon (besides Zare, who didn't even look at my argument post, only the stuff after it). Why is your activity level rising in falling with the overall activity level with the town? I have no idea how you can know that. As stated, I post in early afternoon and late evening, Paris time, because that's when I am free to play. There's no agenda there, just a timetable. Why couldn't you have taken 2 minutes to tell us that you were busy on D1 and taken a vote? Because I left home around 5 pm? sunday afternoon, something like that. I expected to be back before the lynch, instead I slept on the couch of the editing room along with the rest of my team because when you have a deadline you fucking meet it. "I have work" should be good enough. I don't like to talk about my private life with strangers on the internet. These are the questions you need to answer. "Because I have work" isn't going to cut it for me. The fact that you dodged my argument because it was BS is contradicting your play now. If you say both of my arguments are BS now, why are you answering the one with the vote behind it? Because I was content with ignoring you when I thought you were only wrong. Now I think you're scum so I need to take apart your bullshit to have the other townies on my side. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
 Also, THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO CONSOLIDATE. 1.5 hours to lynch and everybody is throwing fingers at people we didn't even suspect 2 hours ago. WTF IS THIS? unbelievable. Can we have the real doctor claim at this point? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:32 zarepath wrote: I didn't really look at things this way until I considered that warbaby is actually a cop. things make much more sense now; the things that happened 12 hours ago now look much more scummy. He isn't cop he claimed doctor rofl. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:32 zarepath wrote: I didn't really look at things this way until I considered that warbaby is actually a cop. things make much more sense now; the things that happened 12 hours ago now look much more scummy. More precision on that? What makes you think WB is cop and why would he doc claim instead of cop claim? What happened 12 hours ago that looks so scummy? | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
 I am very convinced of this Corazon case. I have no idea why people are still voting for a medic claimer with no competing claim. I did that myself in a recent newbie game, figuring that he must be super duper sneaky and the real cop just isn't available... guess what? He was cop. That doesn't mean for sure that warbaby isn't lying, but as a general rule, it's pretty silly to vote for a medic claimer when nobody else is claiming it. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:33 zarepath wrote: warbaby, I was the first to unvote you (as far as I can tell). I'm also putting myself way out here for Corazon. OK. We still cannot assume scum failed to make an action N1. So I have a 80% town - (some random probability of no N1 action) read on you. This is just barely enough to make me vote with you. That and the fact that Cora's current vote makes no sense to me -- confusion is the tool of scum. But if you're wrong, and cora flips town, then you and I are in some serious shit. I'm probably dying anyway, though, in the night kill. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! ##Unvote: Slayalot ##Vote: cdgCorazon (I'm still interested in LAL on Slay, but since I am basically all-in, I need to trust my town read on zarepath.) | ||
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