EPTWe're giving slay a free ride to parrot others and act like the confused innocent. What if he's scum?
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
We're giving slay a free ride to parrot others and act like the confused innocent. What if he's scum? | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote: Of course Warbaby is more likely to make slip-ups, he has been more active. The more posts you make, the more likely you are to slip up. I just have the bad town read on WB, and I can't see why we should not vote off Acid. Because acid~ is contributing fairly well now, even if he is still tunnelling me. Your reason to vote acid is that he's being a dbag but being a dbag is not a scum read. You have 3 options: vote someone you have an actual scum read on, vote a lurker, or vote no-lynch. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm not switching because I know that if he flips doc I'm going to get called out on it. You guys do a great job of twisting my words. I'm sticking to my guns. If WB flips scum, just know that I put pressure on him too. If anyone has been listening to anything I say besides what they use to twist my words, it's a tough call. Both have been playing really terrible games. I just feel like Acid's is just a bit worse at this point still. Just as he called out WB, this is his contribution to the scum hunt: | | (The space in between the lines is his contribution.) I actually made a real case against warbaby that included elements that no one, not even him, were able to refute or explain. You also need to accept the fact that different people have different time commitments and availabilities. If you look at my posting pattern this game, you'll see it's roughly the same as in XXXV (low weekend activity, weekdays activity concentrated on early afternoon/late evening) that's just how it is. Work > mafia. Speaking of blending in however, how am I more scummy than Slayalot on that front? He's allowed to not contribute because of his work, but I'm not? The problem I have with you is not that you're attacking me. It's that you're doing so by using bullshit reasons. I did what you asked btw, and re-reading the thread with a clear head I can actually envision a scenario where warbaby is town. Unfortunately in that scenario you are scum. Pushing the two most aggressive townies against each other is a good plan, so well played. Until we get a counter doc claim: ##Unvote: warbaby ##Vote: cDgCorazon | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
If you don't want to lynch warbaby (who I think has 3 votes right now), you need to provide a viable alternate candidate with strong evidence. Otherwise, scum are going to be able to change the lynch to whoever they want with their 2 votes. At this point, the only person who I could see justifying over warbaby is Cakepie because of his super-hardcore lurker status (or maybe slay for similar reasons). I'd rather lynch what I feel is scum over a lurker though unless you can provide good reasons. No warbaby, I do not wish to hear any self-defense anymore. [green]I'd really like an official votecount to see where we are. Thanks  [/green | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I'd really like an official votecount to see where we are. Thanks | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:43 Sn0_Man wrote:you need to provide a viable alternate candidate with strong evidence.] My case on Glurio is not strong at all. I was hoping someone else would find something in his filter, but no luck. Vote consolidation is necessary, but IMO it is the point at which scum can fuck over town the most, by making the least effort. We need to proceed with caution. I hope you don't see this post as defending myself, because it's not. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
I did not make any plan to have you two fight each other. You two initiated it on the first hours of Day 1. Good job twisting my words (I do believe that it brings up the count to 3 people who have done so now). I've been accused of wasting my vote, now you're doing the same thing yourself. I envisioned a scenario where WB is town and you are scum. So basically, you're voting for me because you agree with me. That makes no sense. Slay has been constantly inactive. The town activity level has shifted from way down on D1 to almost normal on D2. Your activity has followed that same pattern as well. I'm not saying that lurking doesn't make you scum, but you're blending in a lot more with your activity level than what Slay is. You're hoping for a counter doc claim to kill off WB. A counter-claim does absolutely nothing for the town besides getting a Doctor killed and Warbaby executed (which it looks like we might not even need a counter-claim to get him lynched). That in itself is a scummy move. At least Slay voted D1... | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
Lurker 2: Slay We need to get rid of these clowns before we can properly scumhunt. I am most comfortable at this point lynching a lurker. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:49 warbaby wrote: Lurker 1: cakpie. His single post was probably more useful than all of the contributions of, Lurker 2: Slay We need to get rid of these clowns before we can properly scumhunt. I am most comfortable at this point lynching a lurker. Warbaby can't properly scumhunt until we kill the last 2 lurkers, yet from day 1 he was self-proclaimed "scumhunting" and anybody who questioned him was clearly scum-loving. Can we PLEASE kill Warbaby? @Acid: are you seriously voting cora? o_o where did everything go so wrong... Cora is *not* scum. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On January 30 2013 08:13 cDgCorazon wrote: Yeah I mismanaged the time. However, I do mean that I will stick to Acid unless Well done, you've managed to put up a decent defense. I'll let you off the hook on that one. Make an argument against me or someone else that doesn't involve you twisting words, misquoting, or accusing someone of things they didn't do. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:54 Sn0_Man wrote: Warbaby can't properly scumhunt until we kill the last 2 lurkers, yet from day 1 he was self-proclaimed "scumhunting" and anybody who questioned him was clearly scum-loving. Can we PLEASE kill Warbaby? Yet again you box me into this shit. We can't scumhunt most effectively when we have lurkers around. But that's not going to stop me from doing my damnest to scumhunt anyway. Stop saying stupid shit like this, it's wasting our time. Who do we have scum reads on? Me? Then lynch me now. Glurio? So weak. Sn0_man? Again, weak. Cora? I'm interested in this theory. That said, how can we seriously lynch any of these people right now (excepting myself, in your eyes at least)? It's almost a random lynch. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
warbaby (3): Acid~ (1): glurio (1): warbaby cDgCorazon (1): Acid~ Slayalot (0): 2 hours to the lynch I believe | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:48 cDgCorazon wrote: Wow Acid, that was like the most delayed OMGUS I've ever seen. I did not make any plan to have you two fight each other. You two initiated it on the first hours of Day 1. Good job twisting my words (I do believe that it brings up the count to 3 people who have done so now). I've been accused of wasting my vote, now you're doing the same thing yourself. I envisioned a scenario where WB is town and you are scum. So basically, you're voting for me because you agree with me. That makes no sense. Slay has been constantly inactive. The town activity level has shifted from way down on D1 to almost normal on D2. Your activity has followed that same pattern as well. I'm not saying that lurking doesn't make you scum, but you're blending in a lot more with your activity level than what Slay is. You're hoping for a counter doc claim to kill off WB. A counter-claim does absolutely nothing for the town besides getting a Doctor killed and Warbaby executed (which it looks like we might not even need a counter-claim to get him lynched). That in itself is a scummy move. At least Slay voted D1... By god, you're right. The most sensible explanation is that instead of working I spent all day analyzing the town activity in order to make my own activity align to the average! It makes perfect sense! And in a shocking twist, the guy who lurked the WHOLE game, played it safe, never offended anybody, slipped under the radar by voting along with bandwagon - he is less scummy than me. Because... logic? Because If I am scum and no-voting intentionally, I wouldn't have an excuse ready beforehand, like ALL the scum who do such things? Just refer to newbie XXXV: no-vote because of RL issues, doesn't warn in advance - is town (OmniEulogy) no-vote with a lame excuse well prepared several hours before the vote - is scum (JSL) Also, you might want to look up the definition of OMGUS because I've given plenty of valid reasons for why I think you're suspicious. My vote coming second doesn't make it OMGUS. This game is not a race any more than a popularity contest. What really troubles me, however, re-reading the thread, is that warbaby just basically OMGUSed me for no reason. Whereas you gave reasons for voting me. All bullshit. The former attitude I can attribute to angry/confused town. The latter is scum. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
##Vote: Slayalot If someone can pin something real on glurio, besides his really blendy and somewhat mediocre play, then I'd still be interested in lynching him now. But as it is my case is too weak. I'm going with the safe choice, a lurker. I think in the current environment it's too easy for scum to lead the lynch to a useful town. If they mislynch me, there's an 80% chance there is no JK (eg, nobody there to save your sorry asses N2). Why vote Slay over Cake? Slay says he still does not plan to contribute more. Cake at least claims he's going to make an effort as soon as he can. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:54 Sn0_Man wrote: Warbaby can't properly scumhunt until we kill the last 2 lurkers, yet from day 1 he was self-proclaimed "scumhunting" and anybody who questioned him was clearly scum-loving. Can we PLEASE kill Warbaby? @Acid: are you seriously voting cora? o_o where did everything go so wrong... Cora is *not* scum. You don't see any validity in warbaby's doc claim? I hear what you're saying about Cora. I heard it the first time. I'm just not convinced yet. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
He by far made the most mistakes all game. His really suspicious D1 last minute vote switch. He had two scumreads and switched his vote to a lurker. After that he started calling his own reads weak. All this claiming, switching votes randomly. ("How can we seriously lynch any of these people right now, its almost a random lynch." Quote warbaby, while still voting for one of them.) Clear scum for me. | ||
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:07 warbaby wrote: ##Unvote: Glurio ##Vote: Slayalot If someone can pin something real on glurio, besides his really blendy and somewhat mediocre play, then I'd still be interested in lynching him now. But as it is my case is too weak. I'm going with the safe choice, a lurker. I think in the current environment it's too easy for scum to lead the lynch to a useful town. If they mislynch me, there's an 80% chance there is no JK (eg, nobody there to save your sorry asses N2). Why vote Slay over Cake? Slay says he still does not plan to contribute more. Cake at least claims he's going to make an effort as soon as he can. Can you make a real case on Slayalot? I want to believe, but you need to convince the other townies as well. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 31 2013 08:06 Acid~ wrote: What really troubles me, however, re-reading the thread, is that warbaby just basically OMGUSed me for no reason. Whereas you gave reasons for voting me. All bullshit. The former attitude I can attribute to angry/confused town. The latter is scum. Well, I did try to give reasons later, but now I realize it was an OMGUS 4rela. Cora's vote on Acid~ doesn't make sense to me anymore. Does it make sense to anybody else? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Why won't you let WB go for 5 freaking minutes? Why did you lie about something I did in your first vote post? Why did you dodge my first argument, say its BS (at least 24 hours later), and now defend yourself when I voted for you? Why are you OMGUSing me (you are) when you just blamed Acid for the same thing? You really think my reasons are BS? No one else has said that my reasons are BS (besides Zare, who didn't even look at my argument post, only the stuff after it). Why is your activity level rising in falling with the overall activity level with the town? Why couldn't you have taken 2 minutes to tell us that you were busy on D1 and taken a vote? These are the questions you need to answer. "Because I have work" isn't going to cut it for me. The fact that you dodged my argument because it was BS is contradicting your play now. If you say both of my arguments are BS now, why are you answering the one with the vote behind it? If you think I'm a bigger scum than WB, you need to stop attacking him in every post you make, especially when you're not even targeting him. | ||
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