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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 20 2013 00:35 GMT
#1461
Also fuck this lack of internet makes contributing so fucking hard. MrZ and grush can you guys plz post more how much do i have to poke you guys.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 20 2013 00:35 GMT
#1462
Ill try to make it back before the deadline to see if anythign changes.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 00:44 GMT
#1463
On January 20 2013 06:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
I can't tell whether Lazer being dumb is him being scum or not.

Anyway some of my reasons to switch votes were lazy or waffly (or deceptive even) but I did want both slOosh and Hopeless to stay relevant lynches. I could have said nothing at all and I would have done the vote switches anyway.

That's why, for example, my vote was on Hopeless for the majority of the time. He was consistently behind in votes. If I swapped over to slOosh at a bad time then it would make a Hopeless lynch less likely, because a net 2 vote switch is likely to scare off all the noobs into making real stances.

If you're town and can't understand why I would want a close lynch, and why I would be interested in forcing scum to take sides like that, then I'd suggest you reread Ver's town guide.


So, how am I being dumb if your reason for voting someone is deceptive(even from your own PoV)?

I can buy that you wanted to hold the voting close. But that isn't a very relevant part of the case anyway. For example, it doesn't explain the fact that you first say that hopeless looks much better after his post + the fact that he played similar to this last game as town and then moments later say that he is just as scummy SlOosh. It also doesn't explain the fact that you didn't push Hopeless at all during the day, while you were pushing SlOosh like no tomorrow.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 00:47 GMT
#1464
Jay: If Hopeless is scum, I think it is perfectly possible that they would just buss him, given the situation he is in.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 20 2013 02:22 GMT
#1465
grush where you at bro?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 20 2013 04:19 GMT
#1466
:'( idk i'm just waiting for the flip bro.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 20 2013 04:19 GMT
#1467
Seeing hopeless' flip makes or breaks the reads bro.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 20 2013 04:26 GMT
#1468
Also I have a plan
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 04:27 GMT
#1469
On January 20 2013 13:26 grush57 wrote:
Also I have a plan

Hopeless flips town. Plan?
Hopeless flips scum. Plan?
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 20 2013 04:29 GMT
#1470
On January 20 2013 13:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:26 grush57 wrote:
Also I have a plan

Hopeless flips town. Plan?
Hopeless flips scum. Plan?


No not liek that, it's something unrelated and I can't tell.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 20 2013 04:30 GMT
#1471
Though Hopeless you seem to really try to defend yourself, I don't know if I want to lynch you :'(
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 20 2013 04:38 GMT
#1472
LOL

Hopeless passing off the town RB as if he meant jailkeeper is hilarious. If he was town and was really trying to figure out the roleblocks he would have mentioned both the town RB and JK possibilities. However, his intention becomes clear when you look at how he phrased his argument. He attacked the RB claims specifically to make Hapa and Xata look bad. If he had doubt about the claims then he's have considered all angles.

I personally didn't doubt the claims, and I almost fell for the false dichotomy that Hopeless posed; it was scum or town RB (but in reality there are THREE possibilities, not two). I don't think he did this intentionally, but the omission makes far more sense from a scum standpoint because as town I really don't think he's that dumb to blindly tunnel someone so hard he has to resort to bad logic to call them scum.

As for whatever Lazer said, if you really are town and you think me doing something slightly deceptive to get the vote counts in a FAVORABLE POSITION FOR TOWN is scummy, then again, you need to reread Ver's guide. I needed to be crafty with my vote in order to get the most influence out of it, because no one else seems to actually care about the game.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 04:42 GMT
#1473
I didn't "mean" anything, you forgot something the same way I did and only realized after the fact, but of course you're exempt from being scum because FUCK YOU.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 04:48 GMT
#1474
On January 20 2013 13:29 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:26 grush57 wrote:
Also I have a plan

Hopeless flips town. Plan?
Hopeless flips scum. Plan?


No not liek that, it's something unrelated and I can't tell.

Do you think you're liable to die I'd you tell us your plan? I'd rather have the opportunity to discuss this supposed plan with you instead of raging at everyone in the thread for being lazy pieces of shit
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 04:49 GMT
#1475
Ebwop:
*if you tell us your plan
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 20 2013 05:05 GMT
#1476
hey hopeless why dont you do that thing where people make a read on every player in the game.


You should do that kind of nowish instead of later i say.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 20 2013 05:06 GMT
#1477
On January 20 2013 13:30 grush57 wrote:
Though Hopeless you seem to really try to defend yourself, I don't know if I want to lynch you :'(

who would you want to lynch?

and cant say me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 05:20 GMT
#1478
On January 20 2013 14:05 iamperfection wrote:
hey hopeless why dont you do that thing where people make a read on every player in the game.


You should do that kind of nowish instead of later i say.

No. You'll get a case on Lazer in the morning. After that, you can all go fuck yourselves.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 20 2013 05:23 GMT
#1479
On January 20 2013 14:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 14:05 iamperfection wrote:
hey hopeless why dont you do that thing where people make a read on every player in the game.


You should do that kind of nowish instead of later i say.

No. You'll get a case on Lazer in the morning. After that, you can all go fuck yourselves.

thats nice
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 05:26 GMT
#1480
On January 20 2013 14:23 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 14:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 20 2013 14:05 iamperfection wrote:
hey hopeless why dont you do that thing where people make a read on every player in the game.


You should do that kind of nowish instead of later i say.

No. You'll get a case on Lazer in the morning. After that, you can all go fuck yourselves.

thats nice

Well, I try. It's nice to be appreciated.
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