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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 14 2013 18:22 GMT
#601
On January 15 2013 03:19 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 02:55 jaybrundage wrote:
I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

On January 14 2013 19:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can lynch Jay. He is super non-commital this game. He basically doesn't have any strong reads at all. Everytime he posts about someone he is saying stuff like :
filter
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.

I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.
On January 13 2013 11:08 jaybrundage wrote:
@Xalalos

Well Zentor is already defending me lol. I can see him being townie again. Althought i never seen a scummy Zentor.

But as it is so far im leaning town. But regardless i rather not talk about town reads. Anything you think is scummmy as of yet?
He is doing this all the time and its a great way to appear contributing when you are in fact not.

Look at his filter from Hero MM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=56992&currentpage=All
He seems way more active and dishes out alot of scum reads during the strat of D1. He doesn't this game.

Also, his vote on Xata is pure OMGUS

##Vote: jaybrundage

@X Im not gonna go down a useless arguement about who has done what in cases of usefulness. And yes usually im an easy mislynch because I dont properly display townie traits when I am in fact town. Regardless I have been trying to change this British MM was a result of that.


Why won't you do something useful then instead of complaining how much of a lynchbait you are?

How about you read my last post about how i still think your scum
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 18:23 GMT
#602
First of all, we're not lynching jay today. Anyone who is calling him scum right now is either is scum or dumb, since they probably have never played with him before. You need time to catch players like jay, because they play scum and town very similarly. He's mislynch bait as town, and I would argue that as scum he'd probably be much harder to lynch-they always are.

Secondly, there are 6 hours left in the day and we need to consolidate. I would very much like that we consolidate on Xatalos or Zentor. We have 3 nonvoters, one of whom has done nothing (Ruuch) one of whom should have actually done something already (supersoft) and one of whom very well might be scum (Zentor)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 14 2013 18:24 GMT
#603
On January 15 2013 03:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Okay, then go figure out how to convince me jay is scum, because at the moment, I am not convinced.
Do you not agree with the reasons I gave for him to be scummy or do you not agree with given reasons to be scum indicative?

I don't think your non-committal reasons are scum indicative of jay. If you can demonstrate otherwise, I'd love to see it. His filter being different than hero mini only means that his filter is different, not that it is scummy. OMGUS is not a scumtell to me.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 18:24 GMT
#604
On January 15 2013 02:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
Thrawn, I see you think Hopeless is scum. How do you feel about SS? Him sheeping hopeless case without even providing a tiny bit of his own reasoning. I'm actually thinking it's more likely that it is scum SS sheeping retard Hopeless than the other way around. I don't think its very likely for both of them to be scum as it would be quite risky for them to be pushing the same case this early.


what you say is false.
If you read me again you can see that i already - before hopeless even mentioned you once - compared your playstyle this game, to your playstyle in kurumis game. + I already downgraded you a whole lot after your first thread appearance.

btw. you are calling me a retard? I just finished my LLM among the top 10>X% of all lawyers in Germany. I guess i am not completely retarded, since people are willing to pay a lot of money for the shit i am talking about.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 18:25 GMT
#605
On January 14 2013 15:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 09:48 slOosh wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.

I looked at his play from Paranoia and a bunch of other ones too, and this game's play looked nothing like his play in former games, either town or scum, which was the cause of the "second guessing" comment I started with. Do you think his meta indicates something about his alignment, particularly his drastic change in playstyle?


the part in bold is a lie

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case.


you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos?

"Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.


the second quote (which came first) suggests that sloosh is completely unfamiliar with xatalos' play, while the first quote suggests that he'd done extensive meta research before making his big xatalos case.

the second quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to him trying to decide if xata is scum or weird town, and the first quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to meta arguments.

##unvote
##Vote:slOosh


fuck, i don't know which scum i should vote for lol


you're fucking stupid.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 18:26 GMT
#606
wbg, why does your play seem so half-assed compared to your usual standard?

"Secondly, there are 6 hours left in the day and we need to consolidate. I would very much like that we consolidate on Xatalos or Zentor. We have 3 nonvoters, one of whom has done nothing (Ruuch) one of whom should have actually done something already (supersoft) and one of whom very well might be scum (Zentor)"

this is like the weakest push i've ever seen from you
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 18:27 GMT
#607
##vote: Lazermonkey

hehe you just sealed the deal
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2013 03:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 15:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:48 slOosh wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.

I looked at his play from Paranoia and a bunch of other ones too, and this game's play looked nothing like his play in former games, either town or scum, which was the cause of the "second guessing" comment I started with. Do you think his meta indicates something about his alignment, particularly his drastic change in playstyle?


the part in bold is a lie

On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case.


you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos?

"Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.


the second quote (which came first) suggests that sloosh is completely unfamiliar with xatalos' play, while the first quote suggests that he'd done extensive meta research before making his big xatalos case.

the second quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to him trying to decide if xata is scum or weird town, and the first quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to meta arguments.

##unvote
##Vote:slOosh


fuck, i don't know which scum i should vote for lol


you're fucking stupid.

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#608
On January 15 2013 03:13 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:56 jaybrundage wrote:
Just so yall know i will be leaving in 2 hours for work so I wont be here for the deadline.
Then by all means, post everything about everything. You will probebly not get lynched today anyway.

Eh thats the problem i have trouble having opinions on people day 1.

And I'm hesitant to post with out coherent thoughts on people.

I still think Xatalos has a good chance of flipping scum. His early game questioning seemed alot like scum probing peoples thoughts early with out really giving his own thoughts. Then when some pressure was applied on him he went to a case on me. I was pushed on as a mislynch in Hero MM day one VE who was scum actually made a pretty big case on me. So I have a feeling like that is what is happening here.



Why are you so vague in your suspicion of me? You use wording like "his play seemed a lot like scum" or "I have a feeling like that is what is happening here". Do you think so or do you merely suggest that thought to others? And that last part is just WIFOM.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#609
I just finished reading.

Add LM to my list, I guess. I still think Xatalos needs to die, and Zentor is still missing.

On January 15 2013 03:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
wbg, why does your play seem so half-assed compared to your usual standard?

"Secondly, there are 6 hours left in the day and we need to consolidate. I would very much like that we consolidate on Xatalos or Zentor. We have 3 nonvoters, one of whom has done nothing (Ruuch) one of whom should have actually done something already (supersoft) and one of whom very well might be scum (Zentor)"

this is like the weakest push i've ever seen from you


when you have as much confidence in the forum as I do right now, you probably wouldn't give a shit either.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 18:38 GMT
#610
##unvote
##vote LazerMonkey
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2013 18:41 GMT
#611
On January 15 2013 03:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
First of all, we're not lynching jay today. Anyone who is calling him scum right now is either is scum or dumb, since they probably have never played with him before. You need time to catch players like jay, because they play scum and town very similarly. He's mislynch bait as town, and I would argue that as scum he'd probably be much harder to lynch-they always are.

Secondly, there are 6 hours left in the day and we need to consolidate. I would very much like that we consolidate on Xatalos or Zentor. We have 3 nonvoters, one of whom has done nothing (Ruuch) one of whom should have actually done something already (supersoft) and one of whom very well might be scum (Zentor)


You're usually very aggressive and push strong for your reads. Why are you just soft defending Jay and pushing me so weakly? I can actually imagine the answer.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 18:41 GMT
#612
it's pretty hard to tell, given your calibre of play, whether you are stupid or scum.

In fact, it's been hard for the last several games, the easiest being LVIII.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2013 18:44 GMT
#613
On January 15 2013 03:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's pretty hard to tell, given your calibre of play, whether you are stupid or scum.

In fact, it's been hard for the last several games, the easiest being LVIII.


What do you mean LVIII? I haven't played in such game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 18:46 GMT
#614
On January 15 2013 03:44 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's pretty hard to tell, given your calibre of play, whether you are stupid or scum.

In fact, it's been hard for the last several games, the easiest being LVIII.


What do you mean LVIII? I haven't played in such game.


haha, probably because of that :D
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 18:48 GMT
#615
On January 15 2013 03:44 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's pretty hard to tell, given your calibre of play, whether you are stupid or scum.

In fact, it's been hard for the last several games, the easiest being LVIII.


What do you mean LVIII? I haven't played in such game.


I meant players in general, not just you.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 18:49 GMT
#616
On January 15 2013 03:46 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:44 Xatalos wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's pretty hard to tell, given your calibre of play, whether you are stupid or scum.

In fact, it's been hard for the last several games, the easiest being LVIII.


What do you mean LVIII? I haven't played in such game.


haha, probably because of that :D


no, that's a legitimate question
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 18:55 GMT
#617
super, what's your read on wbg right now? this question doesn't care about lynching for information and stuff like that
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 18:58 GMT
#618
We had a time when players like radfield, syllogism, sandroba, palmar, wbg, mig, curu, BC, foolish, kitaman were a normal town :-P
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2013 19:03 GMT
#619
On January 15 2013 03:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:44 Xatalos wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's pretty hard to tell, given your calibre of play, whether you are stupid or scum.

In fact, it's been hard for the last several games, the easiest being LVIII.


What do you mean LVIII? I haven't played in such game.


I meant players in general, not just you.


Right... But if I'm so hard to read, why are you so willing to lynch me? Even though you're giving Jay a free pass for the exact same reason? The more I think about, the more I'm starting to lean scum on you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 19:04 GMT
#620
On January 15 2013 03:24 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 02:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
Thrawn, I see you think Hopeless is scum. How do you feel about SS? Him sheeping hopeless case without even providing a tiny bit of his own reasoning. I'm actually thinking it's more likely that it is scum SS sheeping retard Hopeless than the other way around. I don't think its very likely for both of them to be scum as it would be quite risky for them to be pushing the same case this early.


what you say is false.
If you read me again you can see that i already - before hopeless even mentioned you once - compared your playstyle this game, to your playstyle in kurumis game. + I already downgraded you a whole lot after your first thread appearance.

btw. you are calling me a retard? I just finished my LLM among the top 10>X% of all lawyers in Germany. I guess i am not completely retarded, since people are willing to pay a lot of money for the shit i am talking about.
How is what I say false in any way? You mention my play and say
stuff like.Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
___________________________
after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there.
On January 14 2013 08:10 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
___________________________
after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there.
Lol. So much OMGUS in this game. Can people actually try to hunt scum and NOT retards?


*you're ranked pretty high. I actually think you're a retard and not scum :-)
First off, you never mention anything about my play being diferent in this game so your argument is quite flawed. You NEVER say anything about me being scum back then. When you later call me scum, the only thing that changed is what hopeless said, thus you are sheeping hopeless...

Also, the size of your e-penis is not relevant here,
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