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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 17:45 GMT
#581
On January 15 2013 02:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 01:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Holy FUCK, the more I look at the case, the more I realizehow bad of a case that is, Hopeless. Can YOU explain how the points in your case even makes me scum? Your case is like, ''well Lazermonkey is a monkey and monkeys like bananas, thus Lazermonkey is scum. ''. It does not make any sense what so ever.

The fact that SS is sheeping it is blowing my mind in pieces.


You are scum for making a shitty case and throwing your vote on an outlier. Even now, you are not supporting your scum read, you are attacking the case against you. Again, this is scummy behavior.
Wait, wait, wait... Hold on for a second...

1. How is my case shitty?
2. So, how is my throwing a vote on someone that isn't the main lynch target scummy?
3. How is me attacking a horrible case against me scummy?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#582
On January 15 2013 02:20 slOosh wrote:
Hopeless can you give me your thoughts on Prom's play this game?


He has asked a lot of questions and generally follows them up. They don't appear to be useless and he seems to have read British Empire, which he didn't play in. He's going out of his way to interact with people, like asking you (sloosh) about xat's play in Paranoia, which again he didn't play in or me about my "policy", as discussed in an obs qt. In short, he's active and paying attention, pursuing information from outside of this game where possible.

His "swapping" his stance on Xata was deliberate and pre-meditated to me, as evidenced by his post here:
On January 14 2013 10:36 Promethelax wrote:
'my side' of this issue is the same as yours. I find Xata scummy, I jsut wanted to get better reads on both you and hapa and your targeting fo Xat was a great way to do it.

In paranoia Xat is wishy washy and terrible but he is also very try-hard, as he was in british. He I'm not getting that same vibe here and I am happy to lynch him today. My short list of lynchables (like lunchables but with more murder) are Xatalos, Ruuch, SuperSoft and another dude. We'll talk about him later.

Further to the above, I don't recall him ever taking a proper stance on Xatalos until this post.

His unvote of SS is sketchy, especially what Hapa pointed out, with the unvote reasons having nothing to do with the initial voting reasons. His case against Lazer, and followup to that are much stronger than his push against SS, which makes me wonder if his heart was ever in pushing SS to begin with.

I'm leaning town on Prom.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#583
Cakecount:

Xatalos (2): wherebugsgo, jaybrundage
Hopeless1der (2): grush57, thrawn2112
jaybrundage (2): Xatalos, Lazermonkey
Promethelax (2): slOosh, Hapahauli
Lazermonkey (2): Promethelax, Hopeless1der

Not Voting (3): Ruuch, MrZentor, supersoft


Currently, Xatalos is set to be lynched! (because of tiebreakers)
~6 hours left until the deadline.

PM me or Cheese if I counted something incorrectly.
Remember - you have to vote!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 17:51 GMT
#584
On January 15 2013 02:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 02:20 slOosh wrote:
Hopeless can you give me your thoughts on Prom's play this game?


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Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 10:36 Promethelax wrote:
'my side' of this issue is the same as yours. I find Xata scummy, I jsut wanted to get better reads on both you and hapa and your targeting fo Xat was a great way to do it.

In paranoia Xat is wishy washy and terrible but he is also very try-hard, as he was in british. He I'm not getting that same vibe here and I am happy to lynch him today. My short list of lynchables (like lunchables but with more murder) are Xatalos, Ruuch, SuperSoft and another dude. We'll talk about him later.

i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum i think he's town i think he's scum

I'm leaning town on Prom.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 17:53 GMT
#585
Thrawn, I see you think Hopeless is scum. How do you feel about SS? Him sheeping hopeless case without even providing a tiny bit of his own reasoning. I'm actually thinking it's more likely that it is scum SS sheeping retard Hopeless than the other way around. I don't think its very likely for both of them to be scum as it would be quite risky for them to be pushing the same case this early.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 14 2013 17:55 GMT
#586
I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

On January 14 2013 19:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can lynch Jay. He is super non-commital this game. He basically doesn't have any strong reads at all. Everytime he posts about someone he is saying stuff like :
filter
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.

I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:08 jaybrundage wrote:
@Xalalos

Well Zentor is already defending me lol. I can see him being townie again. Althought i never seen a scummy Zentor.

But as it is so far im leaning town. But regardless i rather not talk about town reads. Anything you think is scummmy as of yet?
He is doing this all the time and its a great way to appear contributing when you are in fact not.

Look at his filter from Hero MM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=56992&currentpage=All
He seems way more active and dishes out alot of scum reads during the strat of D1. He doesn't this game.

Also, his vote on Xata is pure OMGUS

##Vote: jaybrundage

@X Im not gonna go down a useless arguement about who has done what in cases of usefulness. And yes usually im an easy mislynch because I dont properly display townie traits when I am in fact town. Regardless I have been trying to change this British MM was a result of that.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 14 2013 17:55 GMT
#587
Thrawn, that is very demotivating. You're hurting my feelings. The last time that type of post happened, grush shot me in the back. Please stahp.

@Lazer, I don't think your case on jay shows how what he's done is scummy. Show me.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 14 2013 17:56 GMT
#588
Just so yall know i will be leaving in 2 hours for work so I wont be here for the deadline.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 18:00 GMT
#589
On January 15 2013 02:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
Thrawn, I see you think Hopeless is scum. How do you feel about SS? Him sheeping hopeless case without even providing a tiny bit of his own reasoning. I'm actually thinking it's more likely that it is scum SS sheeping retard Hopeless than the other way around. I don't think its very likely for both of them to be scum as it would be quite risky for them to be pushing the same case this early.


SS is one of my stronger town reads right now. I played scum with him in LVIII, and my gut instincts are telling me SS is town and I'm going to trust them. But yes, I do think that him sheeping hopeless' case is bizzare as I already pointed out but that's not too big a deal atm
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 18:01 GMT
#590
On January 15 2013 02:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Thrawn, that is very demotivating. You're hurting my feelings. The last time that type of post happened, grush shot me in the back. Please stahp.

@Lazer, I don't think your case on jay shows how what he's done is scummy. Show me.
You don't think that being non-commital, not giving out a single scum read with the exacption of an OMGUS case is alignment indiactive? He is wish-washy with his comments about several players and avoids to take a clear stance. And what about my two other points Hopeless, you dodged them...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 18:03 GMT
#591
On January 15 2013 02:56 jaybrundage wrote:
Just so yall know i will be leaving in 2 hours for work so I wont be here for the deadline.
Then by all means, post everything about everything. You will probebly not get lynched today anyway.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 18:04 GMT
#592
hey lazer, how much experience in playing with jay do you have? is there anything you can tell me about how he plays without having to go do meta research first?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 18:05 GMT
#593
I have played 0 games with him.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 14 2013 18:08 GMT
#594
On January 15 2013 03:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 02:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Thrawn, that is very demotivating. You're hurting my feelings. The last time that type of post happened, grush shot me in the back. Please stahp.

@Lazer, I don't think your case on jay shows how what he's done is scummy. Show me.
You don't think that being non-commital, not giving out a single scum read with the exacption of an OMGUS case is alignment indiactive? He is wish-washy with his comments about several players and avoids to take a clear stance. And what about my two other points Hopeless, you dodged them...

Who's scummier, me or jay?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 18:12 GMT
#595
On January 15 2013 03:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Thrawn, that is very demotivating. You're hurting my feelings. The last time that type of post happened, grush shot me in the back. Please stahp.

@Lazer, I don't think your case on jay shows how what he's done is scummy. Show me.
You don't think that being non-commital, not giving out a single scum read with the exacption of an OMGUS case is alignment indiactive? He is wish-washy with his comments about several players and avoids to take a clear stance. And what about my two other points Hopeless, you dodged them...

Who's scummier, me or jay?
I am not really confident in a lynch of you atm. You may very well be retarded + you posting retarded cases aren't exactly alignment indicative. So, Jay it is!
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 14 2013 18:13 GMT
#596
On January 15 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 02:56 jaybrundage wrote:
Just so yall know i will be leaving in 2 hours for work so I wont be here for the deadline.
Then by all means, post everything about everything. You will probebly not get lynched today anyway.

Eh thats the problem i have trouble having opinions on people day 1.

And I'm hesitant to post with out coherent thoughts on people.

I still think Xatalos has a good chance of flipping scum. His early game questioning seemed alot like scum probing peoples thoughts early with out really giving his own thoughts. Then when some pressure was applied on him he went to a case on me. I was pushed on as a mislynch in Hero MM day one VE who was scum actually made a pretty big case on me. So I have a feeling like that is what is happening here.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 14 2013 18:16 GMT
#597
Okay, then go figure out how to convince me jay is scum, because at the moment, I am not convinced.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 18:18 GMT
#598
On January 15 2013 03:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Okay, then go figure out how to convince me jay is scum, because at the moment, I am not convinced.
Do you not agree with the reasons I gave for him to be scummy or do you not agree with given reasons to be scum indicative?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2013 18:19 GMT
#599
On January 15 2013 02:55 jaybrundage wrote:
I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 19:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can lynch Jay. He is super non-commital this game. He basically doesn't have any strong reads at all. Everytime he posts about someone he is saying stuff like :
filter
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.

I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.
On January 13 2013 11:08 jaybrundage wrote:
@Xalalos

Well Zentor is already defending me lol. I can see him being townie again. Althought i never seen a scummy Zentor.

But as it is so far im leaning town. But regardless i rather not talk about town reads. Anything you think is scummmy as of yet?
He is doing this all the time and its a great way to appear contributing when you are in fact not.

Look at his filter from Hero MM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=56992&currentpage=All
He seems way more active and dishes out alot of scum reads during the strat of D1. He doesn't this game.

Also, his vote on Xata is pure OMGUS

##Vote: jaybrundage

@X Im not gonna go down a useless arguement about who has done what in cases of usefulness. And yes usually im an easy mislynch because I dont properly display townie traits when I am in fact town. Regardless I have been trying to change this British MM was a result of that.


Why won't you do something useful then instead of complaining how much of a lynchbait you are?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 14 2013 18:22 GMT
#600
On January 15 2013 01:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
Xatalos, please look at the case on me and tell me what you think. Also, look up SS and hopeless.
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