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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 21 2013 21:54 GMT
#1021
Not much left to say:
##Vote: JacobStrangelove
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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 21 2013 23:52 GMT
#1022
Because I have information you don’t. First off I guess this is the point I claim rb’er... now I want you to follow this post with a clear head.

First mocca was rb’ed night one and he claimed he was rb’ed probably in order to gain town cred, secondly I rb’ed spag which was why I focused on Zara so much (thinking I might get lucky with no kills from mafia who knows maybe I did and the sk killed that night)

Next I rb’ed Zeb but there was still a kill. So I thought I was wrong but decided not to show I had information and just push zara over him.

Last thing I did was role block zara and this was when everything was revealed. You may wonder why I went spastic about an sk. Zara lied about being rb’ed probably because he assumed I was it and a kill still went though.

Now you might think how can we confirm this? Well let me live the day and I will role block whoever you want me to. Assuming we kill either zara or zebzet there can only be one night kill. (unless sk is shz and I have just been on the wrong trail the entire time) But if that happens we can get to it when it does.

Also you might think I am mafia roleblocker but why has nobody claimed rb the entire thread? (apart from mocca) Because I hit scum everytime. There is no point for mafia to rb their own people. Apart from if they try to gain town cred from it and doing that every night is pointless.

Also I was soft claiming rb’er... “heh sure thing” was me saying sure I’ll rb myself you morons.

Now you probably don’t believe me but if you don’t think there is an sk and a mafia then there is no problem letting me live another night as it would be obvious who is scum. There is no way I would get out of it if one of these two flips town. If one of them does flip town, I probably won’t even argue just accept my fate.

Now you might think that 3 scum one sk is unlikely, but we have at least three power roles in town. We have a vig, a cop, and a rb’er. I have played in a game that was three mafia one sk before I know it happens.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 22 2013 00:50 GMT
#1023
Well, now I know you're scum, because I wasn't jkd. There was no incentive for me to lie about being rbd. If anything, acknowledging that I was rbd would just confirm me town with a kill still being carried out. And why did you wait until after everyone voted for you to suddenly reveal you are rb? And wouldn't you refer to it as jk not rb?
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 00:55 GMT
#1024
Because I am not a jail keeper I am a role blocker...

You're the only one around here with hair. For some reason this means you're a Roleblocker. (once at/every) night you can roleblock someone and it will prevent them from using any of their night actions. You win when all the mafia have been killed. Your target will be aware that they were roleblocked, but nothing beyond that.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 00:56 GMT
#1025
Well I didn't want to get night killed. Because I had the chance to completely stop nk's after this lynch if I was wrong.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 00:57 GMT
#1026
or even if I was right.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 01:00 GMT
#1027
but no it wouldn't confirm you as town, because if I was rb'er and zeb was confirmed due to cop then that would make shz scum. Also you would be unsure as to who I rb'ed so the information with that would lead to your lynch.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 01:53 GMT
#1028
Look you have 100% permission to lynch me if zara flips town but when I flip town you are screwed. Think about it. If Zara flips town my entire argument is based off him not flipping town and thus I am scum 100%. If I flip town then who are you going to lynch?

If you are town you can 100% hit scum by lynching zara then me. If you lynch me then you can't be sure.
zebezt
Profile Joined August 2011
185 Posts
January 22 2013 07:26 GMT
#1029
I didn't get RB'ed.
I guess it's nice to know I've been right all along about you.

Must admit you made it into a relatively convincing story. So kudo's for that.

If you really were RB you could have claimed right away though instead of waiting. Now you just added another lie to your list.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 07:48 GMT
#1030
I could have claimed right away but I had to go over why zarapath lied and consider everything. Also I didn't want to get Nk'ed tonight so that is why I waited until I was voted for and likely to die anyway.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 08:28 GMT
#1031
Well obviously you two are against me but to the town considering there is no way I can survive day 5 if zara is town we should vote for him. You can just lynch me afterwards if I am lying. It's the only logical thing to do. This way eliminates all possibility's for mistakes.
zebezt
Profile Joined August 2011
185 Posts
January 22 2013 08:48 GMT
#1032
This does in fact not eliminate all possibilities for mistakes from my pov.

I have been thinking about what your gameplan is. Are you just planning to stretch the game out for no good reason?
Only thing I can think of is that there are 4 scum players in this game.
That means zare or shz is scum.

scenario zare is scum: zare gets lynched, flips scum and JSL says: see! I was right! During night he kills Trotske, claims he RB'ed me and thus shz must be SK.

now that I think of it, this doesn't make sense. Because at this point I'd be confirmed town and if he had RB'ed me I would tell.

scenario shz is scum: zare gets lynched, flips town. Everyone knows JSL is scum, but during night another townie dies. 2-1 for scum/townies.


zebezt
Profile Joined August 2011
185 Posts
January 22 2013 08:49 GMT
#1033
On January 22 2013 16:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I could have claimed right away but I had to go over why zarapath lied and consider everything. Also I didn't want to get Nk'ed tonight so that is why I waited until I was voted for and likely to die anyway.


It took you an entire day to consider this? Right...
zebezt
Profile Joined August 2011
185 Posts
January 22 2013 08:57 GMT
#1034
Anyway, like I said before. If I was SK, I'd try to kill scum during the night. During the supposed RB or zare, I would have killed JSL already instead of Acid.
So that part of your story makes no sense too.


It will be interesting to see though if it turns out if there was a fourth scum or if you were just stalling.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 08:58 GMT
#1035
Hey I went to bed for most of that, the main point was not wanting to get night killed.

4 scum would be ridiculously overpowered. The only way I see this is if there were a mason pair. (which aren't in this game type) 3 scum one sk however.... So like you said there is no point for me to just drag this out.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:00 GMT
#1036
Also if there were 4 scum do you really think mocca would have died? Or even spag for that matter.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:06 GMT
#1037
Also killing me as your biggest opponent would bring suspicion. Acid died as someone who was on my side for the most part. (which only brings wifom suspicion at best) Snow also died (someone who I think was on my side) Why does everyone who agrees with me die? I might have done it once for wifom cred but honestly...
zebezt
Profile Joined August 2011
185 Posts
January 22 2013 09:22 GMT
#1038
4 scum is about as bad as 3 scum + 1 SK. plus you might just be delaying.

I'm sure you didnt sleep 24 hours. You had plenty time to claim. If you were RB you would have thought about when to claim before as well, so it shouldnt take you so long.

How would you have gotten killed during the night if you were RB? If your story is true you'd have me and zare as scum/SK. After lynching one of us, there would only be 1 left for you to RB so you wouldnt die during night. I'm sorry your argument makes no sense.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:27 GMT
#1039
4 scum can concentrate votes 3 scum and 1 sk can't.


How would you have gotten killed during the night if you were RB? If your story is true you'd have me and zare as scum/SK. After lynching one of us, there would only be 1 left for you to RB so you wouldnt die during night. I'm sorry your argument makes no sense.


Oh that does make sense. Didn't think of that....

In that case we should 100% lynch zara because then I can just roleblock the other scum. If that doesn't happen you can just lynch me. If I was buying for time does it matter? It's still safer for town to lynch zara first and you know it.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:28 GMT
#1040
Why are you so scared of the safe option? I can't have a game plan past this day.
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