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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 14 2013 03:02 GMT
#441
#Unvote
Ok rereading laguerta's filter, I dont see scum doing this, I really dont.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 14 2013 03:03 GMT
#442
I dont have a problem with Oatsmaster anymore.

He doesnt like my methods, and I dont like his methods.. BUT.. I can openly acknowledge he is scum hunting. That is definitely more than some of the 12 remaining people. So he is off my scum-dar.




But Sn0_Man... i just don't know what to make of this vote. It could be OMGUS; but then theres that timing and lack of contributions.. and even more so, lack of substance.
Compare his first post to Acids.. huge difference in quality..

I think lets stick with La Guerta.. he lied, and we shouldn't forget that. I think Sn0_Man is showing some pretty suspicious behaviour that we can look into Night 1/Day2.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 14 2013 03:09 GMT
#443
##Vote zebezt

He is playing the newbie card subtly and his filter is full of comments about the ongoings of the thread but he seems very detached, which is a scumtell.

He doesnt really interact with anyone and doesnt seem interested in finding scum.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 14 2013 03:13 GMT
#444
@Oatsmaster

My vote is sticking on La Guerta. I cant let it go that he lied. it is punishable by lynch.

May I ask what made you to start considering zebezt.. if it was the post from Acid, did you see my reply to him here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391615&currentpage=22#425
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 14 2013 03:16 GMT
#445
read the filters, zebezt doesnt care about finding out scum

doesnt ask any specific questions and doesnt pressure people

He just cares about looking active
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 14 2013 03:18 GMT
#446
I haven't read his filters in full detail, so won't comment on that.. I mereso ask, are there not other players who have exhibited the same behaviour? Why zebezt vs them? That is all.

[Im trying to constructively address your reasoning]
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 14 2013 03:22 GMT
#447
Because zebezt is reasonably active and I can see scum motivation in his posting, unlike other players which I cant see town or scum reasons for lurking.
No gg, No skill.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
January 14 2013 03:23 GMT
#448
yeah, I just read through all his posts, I agree that they don't seem to have much effort put behind them for scum hunting, although we didn't have much information to go on for most of D1.. He does try to make himself seem active without saying a whole lot though.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
January 14 2013 03:25 GMT
#449
Honestly he has just as good a chance as flipping scum as Laguerta imo. The only difference is that I can't just put Zebezt in the "bad townie" category for every single post he's made.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 14 2013 03:27 GMT
#450
OK.. I will have a look through my filter and see if I any town or scum motivations.

Do you not find it odd, lurkers have been able to come here and just bandwagon someone freely? What do you make of those intentions? (if you want me to highlight an individual.. there are a few.. but I think it is ?Glurio? that springs to mind
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
January 14 2013 03:29 GMT
#451
I think the bigger thing at the moment is that even if the three of us, Mocsta, Oats, and myself all switch to another person who already has a vote on them, it won't be enough to stop Laguerta from being lynched. I can only see this as Mafia being FINE with Laguerta being lynched today. If we don't have another person on the Laguerta wagon active I think we might be lynching him no matter what.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
January 14 2013 03:30 GMT
#452
In fact, it was mentioned earlier... not enough of a fight from mafia to keep Laguerta in the game... the fact that the only two votes that aren't on him are on two different people makes me highly doubt they are both mafia either... guys I think we fucked this up

##Unvote
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 03:31:56
January 14 2013 03:31 GMT
#453
Vote Count!

If your vote is not properly formatted it will not be counted. Everyone is required to vote.



Laguerta (5) - Mandalor, Glurio, Shz, Mocsta, Zarepath, Oatsmaster, OmniEulogy
zebezt (2) - Acid~, Oatsmaster
Sn0_Man (1) - Zebezt, Trotske, Mocsta
Mandalor (1) - Trotske, Mocsta, Oatsmaster
Mocsta (1) - Sn0_Man, Oatsmaster
bringaniga (0) - shz, Oatsmaster, Mandalor, Laguerta
Oatsmaster (0) - Mocsta
shz (0) - OmniEulogy
Acid~ (0) - Zarepath, OmniEulogy
No-Lynch (1) - Laguerta



Currently Laguerta is set to be lynched! If you see that anyone's vote is incorrect then pm me. You have about 30 minutes left to vote! Deadline is at 04:00 GMT (+00:00).
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
January 14 2013 03:31 GMT
#454
On January 14 2013 08:55 Trotske wrote:
@Acid How is Zebezt a better lynch than sn0_man.


Sn0_Man hasn't said or done much so far, Zebezt has actually posted quite a bit and every post he digs his scumhole deeper. Read his filter.


Also your post
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 14 2013 08:34 Acid~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 08:24 Mocsta wrote:
Lol so u come in the thread after 40hrs of no post and start slinging shit.

Why dont u start to earn some town cred before questioning myself and zebezt.

U can start by addressing the questions i and others put forward to you in your prolonged absence.

U will then be in a position where i can respond to your qustions.


There were no questions that were "put to me", you just asked me to post and I did.

So, now I have to "earn" town cred before I'm allowed to play? Oh please, pretty please, can I play with you Mr mayor?

I find this attitude pretty fucking hypocritical coming from a guy who attacked someone else earlier supposedly because they were intimidating others into not participating.

This shit you're trying to pull right there, not only is it exactly the kind of behavior you attacked in others, it's also textbook ad-hominem.

So, please, with sugar on top, answer the fucking question. Maybe you'll manage to post your first line of useful content.



seemed to be aimed at getting people emotional near the lynch deadline and you need to stop it now because that won't help people make informed lynch decisions. that post was 100% pointless unless you want to get people emotional.



It's not pointless and it's not emotional. I'm pointing out inconsistencies in his play and letting him know I won't be bullied.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 14 2013 03:31 GMT
#455
You never know what will happen,
regardless, just vote for your top scum read. fuck consolidating on a townie.
No gg, No skill.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 14 2013 03:31 GMT
#456
My biggest worry is how easy it's been to vote Laguerta. 7 votes??? There have to be some mafia in that train. (I mean, there don't, but I'm uneasy about voting him out so easily.)

EDIT WHILE POSTING: Just saw that OE just said this same thing.

"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 14 2013 03:32 GMT
#457
##Unvote
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
January 14 2013 03:33 GMT
#458
I came in really late in the first day, a lot of arguments were already made, in this situation its highly unlikely to make a completely new argument for someone who was overlooked.
And i do believe there is never a reason to lie as a town player.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
January 14 2013 03:33 GMT
#459
EBWOP: I was trying to work out the current votes and failed miserably, 1 vote on 4 other people. I still don't think Mafia would do that if one of their own guys were being lynched.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 14 2013 03:34 GMT
#460
Well.. if you wanted to swap.. im not comfortable with zebezt

I read his filter, and OK, he is not the most "direct" scum hunter, but we already have Oatsmaster for that role.. I see him as a townie.. and its got nothign to do with him agreeing with some of my concerns. In fact, he actually questioned me regarding a few.

Also.. he didnt share TOWN reads (like some individuals) he shared SCUM reads... remember.. its alot harder for scum to present scum reads as they are openly lying... Town or scum can produce a town read and feel true to themselves.


So far, the play from Sn0_man hasnt done anything to suggest zebezt was wrong in naming him as a scum read.
If I am confirmation biased with this assessment, let me know? Because I have done my best to take a step back here and consider the information.
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