EPTWith this in mind I can see Oats being extremely suspicious of you and trying to remove your credibility by making a case on you to be scum trying to take control of town in a newbie game where people are generally more docile so you can get away with it much easier. Although I think Oats was overly aggressive I can see a town AND scum motive behind it. I wouldn't assume he was just trying to derail the conversation. He could have been genuinely worried about letting you take control so early and having most people take your word as gospel truth. I might not like how he did it but I just think we should keep this in mind.
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With this in mind I can see Oats being extremely suspicious of you and trying to remove your credibility by making a case on you to be scum trying to take control of town in a newbie game where people are generally more docile so you can get away with it much easier. Although I think Oats was overly aggressive I can see a town AND scum motive behind it. I wouldn't assume he was just trying to derail the conversation. He could have been genuinely worried about letting you take control so early and having most people take your word as gospel truth. I might not like how he did it but I just think we should keep this in mind. | ||
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@Oats rather than brainwashing I don't mind Mocsta leading discussion because I don't believe he is capable of doing it without giving away that he is scum. I don't think I could do it either. I've never been mafia but I'd imagine it would be very difficult with little experience to play without giving yourself away if you had to talk so much. That and so far what he has said has matched with my thoughts. I'll have to go back and make sure he isn't just agreeing with what I'm saying though just to be safe. | ||
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 (lynch deadline) I'm going through it all right now, it's quite a bit of reading but I should be done shortly.I did notice something while I was reading so I'll address it. @Mocsta I was in a rush and the thought of a no-lynch didn't actually cross my mind. I put my vote on Acid~ because I felt positive that nobody would follow it. If I hadn't been able to come back and he did get lynched though, even if he flipped town it would do 0 damage to us, that was my thought process behind voting for him as I had about 5 minutes to decide who to vote for at the time that I did. | ||
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I'm not happy at all about Laguerta's post count or quality of posts but I think Shz is a candidate for a lynch over Laguerta at the moment. Albeit it's very close for me between the two of them. Shz has voted for Bringaniga because he was annoying, not because he was scum. In my mind this is not a town motivated vote. It is a vote on somebody easy to target by scum. He hasn't contributed to very much at all, and instead has either asked very simplistic questions, answered the first few questions but mostly attacked players on their stances early on and hasn't done anything since then. It is a large change from my game with him in XXXIII and the fact that he has not contributed since then also makes me worried. I believe you are taking the easy way out by voting for Bringaniga, voting for one of the "easy" lynch candidates. Town should be scum hunting and trying to discuss leads with each other. Not voting because somebody is annoying who you yourself even said it is unlikely for him to be scum. ##Vote: Shz | ||
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@Laguerta why should we NOT vote to lynch you in 2 hours? | ||
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Anyway it's true that he has gone for easy lurker lynches and his vote on Bringaniga puts me off for reasons I've stated earlier. I thought Bringaniga was a town troll. not a scum one. I think scum would latch on to him because he's annoying and would make for a very easy lynch target and some people have done exactly that. He's basically jumping on a bunch of different wagons, his last one on Laguerta was imo alright, but I still would have liked to see him ask for why Laguerta voted like that and THEN put his vote on him after Laguerta could get in an answer. The way he looks right now is that as you said Mocsta he doesn't care about who gets lynched and keeps jumping targets. I can't tell if its confused townie or scum though. I'm looking through his filter in detail right now. After reading through it I'm leaning towards confused townie. You are right that he isn't contributing very much, but I'd still put him ahead of Shz as far as helpfulness is concerned. | ||
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On January 14 2013 00:41 Mandalor wrote: Oh, forgot about bringaniga. His play is annoying the crap out of me. If he's town, he's helping scum a lot. I hope he knows that. However, I still favor going for the more easy targets. Scum would think of Bringaniga as an "easy target". I'm going to say that thinking of this post from a town vs scum point of view it seems more town even though he's talking about lynching easy targets. I believe lynching Mandalor would be a mistake D1. Sn0 is a possible target I'd consider lynching. I think people are dead on with their idea's of him. He hasn't come back at all and stirred things up to create an atmosphere that isn't really town friendly. I wasn't aiming for a love-fest with my post about taking each others cases apart either, but I gave reasons for why it would be beneficial towards town and how it would help us scum hunt. He has done nothing that would promote a town agenda. He seemed quick to jump on Mocsta, which is understandable but he has contributed nothing after stopping the discussion and what posts he has made aren't very good. He is another lurker and it is very hard to get a good read on him. Glurio - has posted nothing. Acid~ - has posted nothing. Shz - very little posted, jumped on Bringaniga out of frustration, left for the rest of the day. Possible scum move to get his vote out there early on a target nobody would complain about and then went MIA so he could not explain himself. Mandalor - Jumped between targets, has stayed with his scum read though. Has defended himself actively. A little bit defensive, but when being accused of something most people are. Trotske - Seems to be aiming for a lurker lynch D1. At this point I'm not entirely against it but he has shown little care for anything else that has happened. Weak case at best due to such little information from Sn0 available. Laguerta - started off with this "1) If I dont have a strong mafia read on someone by the end of the day, I will feel compelled to policy lynch and not waste a day with a NL." He just voted for a no-lynch. Already makes him a liar. He voted for Bringaniga as an OMGUS. Anybody have anything to add? I think one of these guys should be our lynch candidates for today. Zarepath barely makes it off the list. I find his activity is also very spotty and outside of policy he hasn't offered much. He also voted for Acid, which to me seems like a scum move. Trying to explain why he would vote for Acid over another lurker, I can understand it because of TeMiL in our last game who literally only posted once to vote and that was pretty much it... but still, it's not a very compelling vote for somebody who has had time to come to a conclusion. | ||
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 Shz I'd still like your thoughts on how everything has been playing out and who you believe the top 2 players (or more if you'd like) for this lynch should be. | ||
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Although it is not much it's still a nice step in the right direction. I didn't take a close look at Zebezt but he has said some pretty odd things. | ||
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