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On January 10 2013 07:17 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 07:12 MrZentor wrote:On January 10 2013 07:07 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 07:01 MrZentor wrote:This game and Witchcraft Mafia are completely different. In Witchcraft Mafia, if I wasn't able to convince people DYH was scum within the 48 hour day, he wouldn't die. I had to actively push my scum reads. In British Empire Mini Mafia, the days only end when a lynch has occurred. Because of this mechanic, all I have to do is make sure that when we lynch, we lynch one of my scum reads. I can passively push my scum reads and still be successful, due to the mechanics of this game. I hope that explains my change in play.  But you are rushing the lynches here. You really wanted to lynch yama, but now people are going away from that lynch. You really seem to think he's scum, so why aren't you passively pushing yama? You're setting yourself up with two choices, yama and dandel, but you were waaaay more insistent with yama. Only when the thread changed to dandel did you really want to kill him. Why are you so indifferent? You never had "top two" scumreads in WC.. Yama and Dandel are both scum. Sure, I wanted to kill Yama first, but if other people want to kill Dandel first, that's fine. Obviously I'm indifferent as to which one dies because they're both scum. In Witchcraft Mafia, DYH was pretty obviously mafia, so I had one scum read. In this game, I had a much easier time finding town than scum, so of course I would discover the two scum at once through process of elimination. I don't see why me having two scum reads as opposed to one is important to you? Cause in WC you specifically stated that you liked focusing on one scum read at a time: On December 20 2012 03:20 MrZentor wrote:
I like to focus on one scum at a time. It's best to only make theories about connections after the flip. At here you have been making connections since day one. Yeah, I just said that because Eywa was being stupid and I wanted him to stop.
Hm. I'll think about it.
Let's talk a bit about yamato. Why do you think he's scum?
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Also, @ CC, you should enjoy the benefits of being confirmed town and actually give us some thoughts and analysis and stuff. Do you also think that both yama and dandel are scum?
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So everybody is a pretty strong town read. Why did jay get the except maybe?
On January 09 2013 08:17 MrZentor wrote:
I don't really have to push my scumread; that's the beauty of this type of game.
I can just wait for town to realize he's scum.
I mean, who else could they lynch but scum?
Everybody else is pretty obviously town.
Except maybe Jay, but I'll make sure they don't lynch him.
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On January 10 2013 07:34 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 07:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty confident this Z is town. A lot of effort going over his past game. He seems to care a ton and isn't facerolling over this Dandel lynch -- wants to pursue other reads such as his evil twin brother Mr. Z.
But yeah. I'm not convinced of Jays towniness, and still Mr. Z irks me. Scumteam still most likely two of the three Yamato / Jay / Dandel. I'll provide the hammer on any if y'all want. Becareful Z-Boson is actually especially good at making long thought out cases on people when he'sscum. So i would be hesitant to call it a townie trait.
So what would you call me?
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On January 10 2013 07:44 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 07:42 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 07:34 jaybrundage wrote:On January 10 2013 07:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty confident this Z is town. A lot of effort going over his past game. He seems to care a ton and isn't facerolling over this Dandel lynch -- wants to pursue other reads such as his evil twin brother Mr. Z.
But yeah. I'm not convinced of Jays towniness, and still Mr. Z irks me. Scumteam still most likely two of the three Yamato / Jay / Dandel. I'll provide the hammer on any if y'all want. Becareful Z-Boson is actually especially good at making long thought out cases on people when he'sscum. So i would be hesitant to call it a townie trait. So what would you call me? I have gone over this read my filter
You mean this passage?
I am not sure about Z-Boson but a couple of townies have a town read on him. So No go for that lynch today.
Take a stance. Why are you not so sure about me, despite being fairly sure that dandel/yam are the scumteam?
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Guys, be patient. Let's wait to see what he has to say, at least until hapa gets back and has a say. Don't hammer.
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Right, still, be patient. Both hapa and dandel are not here. Let's hear what they have to say first.
I'm gonna go to the gym, I'll bbl.
Remember that hammering means you just cut down hapa's participation in the game to 24 hours. Don't hammer.
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Guess I'm late for the party
He needed to die pretty bad. Really bad play, he was so full of shit it was unbelievable.
As it stands we are in mylo. NK is 100% going through, and right now we are at 2 / 5. After nk we will be in a 2 / 4 mylo. No more mislynches as doctor can't save anyone else.
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@Hapa
Pushing mafia objectives all game long, and of course, all without proper reasoning, refusing to discuss certain aspects and not really pushing him in a way similar to WC. Mr.Z = scum as I've been saying all along
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On January 10 2013 11:38 MrZentor wrote:
idk
If I'm scum, who's scum number 2?
prob jay, someone you've been passing off as a top scumread for questionable reasons and didn't discuss, same person who pointed fingers at hapa, a confirmed town, for not having a vote in any lynch.
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On January 10 2013 11:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 11:40 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 11:38 MrZentor wrote:
idk
If I'm scum, who's scum number 2? prob jay, someone you've been passing off as a top scumread for questionable reasons and didn't discuss, same person who pointed fingers at hapa, a confirmed town, for not having a vote in any lynch. He had him as confirmed town?
Duh. That's what I meant. Questionable town read
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On January 10 2013 11:48 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 11:40 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 11:38 MrZentor wrote:
idk
If I'm scum, who's scum number 2? prob jay, someone you've been passing off as a top scumread for questionable reasons and didn't discuss, same person who pointed fingers at hapa, a confirmed town, for not having a vote in any lynch. Do you think scum would forget hapa got shot and was saved by doctor?
The fact that you are mentioning this is indicative that you were thinking about using this as an argument when you went after CC.
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On January 10 2013 11:53 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 11:52 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 11:48 jaybrundage wrote:On January 10 2013 11:40 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 11:38 MrZentor wrote:
idk
If I'm scum, who's scum number 2? prob jay, someone you've been passing off as a top scumread for questionable reasons and didn't discuss, same person who pointed fingers at hapa, a confirmed town, for not having a vote in any lynch. Do you think scum would forget hapa got shot and was saved by doctor? The fact that you are mentioning this is indicative that you were thinking about using this as an argument when you went after CC. What? You're not making sense..
That's WIFOM. You could have gone after CC on purpose, thinking it would make you look townie because scum wouldn't do that.
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@CC
I'm also a "confirmed town read" for mr.Z, lest you forget. His only non-town read is yamato now. Which town read will he choose to cancel, I wonder?
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Scumteam is mr.Z/Jay. Tomorrow I'll go through jay's filter and confirm this, I've already said enough about mr.Z
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Hapa, I don't get why you wait until you can't reply for you to question things I'm doing. I've been very clear about my reads, in fact, I think I pushed more reads than you did. The only person you really pushed was ShiaoPi. The rest of your play is just prodding around and asking questions, and I can find many times where you don't respond to your prods (Such as when I went into WC skimming mr.Z's filter and you didn't comment on a single thing I'd said about his meta).
I don't know if you noticed, but I'm prodding around everywhere, and I'm not gonna post every single thing that comes to my head unless I find good reason for it. I agreed with DP quite a bit on his case on CC, but as the day dragged on, he seemed to be trying really hard, and there's no point for me to push him when there are at least two other people pushing him, and CC became quite active.
With yamato, the post you cited was when you were asking him a bunch of questions and he was pushing CC, and again, I felt no need to comment on my own conclusions.
ShiaoPi I was clear in why I thought he was townie earlier with comparisons to LVII, and if you had a problem with that I have no idea why you are bringing it up now.
I'm rather disappointed, I must say. In a game where we are both townie, with you confirmed, I expected to be discussing the thread with you, but you didn't budge and said it was for "your approval", keeping your distance.
And now, when you have little to no time, you decide it's time to actually question me and my actions, when you could have already been doing so all along.
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See what I'm sayin' Hapa?
Are you gonna answer what I said?
Cause you are misrepresenting me like a bauss.
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Oh wait I shouldn't seek your approval. Carry on >.<
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Let's read these cases and see if they all fit
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