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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:16 GMT
#1102
On January 09 2013 11:14 MrZentor wrote:
I must be bussing Yamato pretty hard.

You're not supposed to let out our secret MrZ.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:18 GMT
#1105
On January 09 2013 11:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 11:16 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:14 MrZentor wrote:
I must be bussing Yamato pretty hard.

You're not supposed to let out our secret MrZ.


Remember when you were yelling at people to be useful? Oh those were the times...

Remember when he was useful?

I don't either.

If he's trolling the thread I am too.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:23 GMT
#1108
On January 09 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Welp. If you're going to troll from here on out, I'm going to lynch you.

What will it be?

What is it you think I should be doing, repeating myself over and over about why I want to lynch Zentor like he's doing with me?

I'm gauging Dandel at the moment because the person he replaced could definitely have been the other scum.

Otherwise, I highly doubt you, DP, or Zbo are scum. Jay probably isn't either, from what I've been reading of his filter.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:30 GMT
#1110
On January 09 2013 11:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 11:23 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Welp. If you're going to troll from here on out, I'm going to lynch you.

What will it be?

What is it you think I should be doing, repeating myself over and over about why I want to lynch Zentor like he's doing with me?

I'm gauging Dandel at the moment because the person he replaced could definitely have been the other scum.

Otherwise, I highly doubt you, DP, or Zbo are scum. Jay probably isn't either, from what I've been reading of his filter.


Any analysis would help. You screaming MrZ is useless/scum won't get you anywhere. Read filters, post cases, etc.

Like you have a town read on Jay all of a sudden. Why? What's the reasoning?
Why would you put Z-Bo in the same category as two confirmed townies?

What is in Zentor's filter besides "lynch people, I'm confirmed town, you're confirmed town, lynch this guy"?

It's a pretty accurate assessment IMO. Do you really want me to pick out all the posts where he does exactly this?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:40 GMT
#1114
On January 08 2013 15:09 jaybrundage wrote:
Hapa I do care about who wants to get lynched. But The last 3 days or so my biggest scum read has been CC and your have done a great job of making sure that goes no where.

I was not happy at what Zentor and Yamato. And i was posting when i was kinda pissed. Scummy wasnt the right word to use tho. I think Dumb as fuck or really stupid, or anti town would all of sufficed better. I still am Null on those players. Leaning town a bit based on what people have said about Zentor's meta and how you guys have a good read on him. Similar to how i deferred to your experience with DP for a read.

I have been trying to expand my scum reads more tho cause this CC lynch doesnt look like its gonna happen unless you change your mind about him. What if you were in my position. If you had someone that you thought was scum. But the town refused to lynch him. Even had players HARD defending him. Its kind of frustrating.

Z-Boson was more of a gut thing I had the same premonition last game with him and I was right he was scum. So I thought i would throw it out there as opposed to sitting on the information.

Also at the top of your post you say its a push.... Its not a push its giving my consent to a lynch that your pushing. I havent made a real case yet since my last one on cc. But its wierd as well. Before most towns were very case orientated. This town not so much.

Anyway If ShaioPi starts shitting town vibes and rainbows whats your next scum read?

This post from jay is the kind of thing I would expect out of him as town this game. He's not pushing anything fishy, he doesn't try to act like he's completely correct, but he gives his thoughts on who could be scum, even if one of his reads is just a feeling. He's not trying to prove anything to anyone, he thinks what he thinks and that's it. It's carefree town.

Other posts he seems to think I might call him scum if I'm scum because he is an easy target. I think the same way a lot of the time about other players.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:42 GMT
#1115
On January 09 2013 11:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 11:30 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:23 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Welp. If you're going to troll from here on out, I'm going to lynch you.

What will it be?

What is it you think I should be doing, repeating myself over and over about why I want to lynch Zentor like he's doing with me?

I'm gauging Dandel at the moment because the person he replaced could definitely have been the other scum.

Otherwise, I highly doubt you, DP, or Zbo are scum. Jay probably isn't either, from what I've been reading of his filter.


Any analysis would help. You screaming MrZ is useless/scum won't get you anywhere. Read filters, post cases, etc.

Like you have a town read on Jay all of a sudden. Why? What's the reasoning?
Why would you put Z-Bo in the same category as two confirmed townies?

What is in Zentor's filter besides "lynch people, I'm confirmed town, you're confirmed town, lynch this guy"?

It's a pretty accurate assessment IMO. Do you really want me to pick out all the posts where he does exactly this?


Reasoning on Jay. Go.
Hell you're trying to "gauge Dandel Ion" right now, but you haven't asked him a single question. How do you guage a guy who just replaced in without talking to him?

I'm reading what you're asking him. There's not much for me to add to what you want him to do, heh.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:44 GMT
#1118
On January 09 2013 11:34 Hapahauli wrote:
As for MrZ, that's just what he does.

People have said this all game about him but I think it's a shit excuse. BC said something to that effect, that players who are excused to play shitty because "it's their meta" should not be allowed to do so.

Regardless if he was town wouldn't he want to actually prove that I'm scum instead of picking on me like everyone else at the moment?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:47 GMT
#1119
On January 09 2013 11:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 11:42 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:33 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:30 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:23 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Welp. If you're going to troll from here on out, I'm going to lynch you.

What will it be?

What is it you think I should be doing, repeating myself over and over about why I want to lynch Zentor like he's doing with me?

I'm gauging Dandel at the moment because the person he replaced could definitely have been the other scum.

Otherwise, I highly doubt you, DP, or Zbo are scum. Jay probably isn't either, from what I've been reading of his filter.


Any analysis would help. You screaming MrZ is useless/scum won't get you anywhere. Read filters, post cases, etc.

Like you have a town read on Jay all of a sudden. Why? What's the reasoning?
Why would you put Z-Bo in the same category as two confirmed townies?

What is in Zentor's filter besides "lynch people, I'm confirmed town, you're confirmed town, lynch this guy"?

It's a pretty accurate assessment IMO. Do you really want me to pick out all the posts where he does exactly this?


Reasoning on Jay. Go.
Hell you're trying to "gauge Dandel Ion" right now, but you haven't asked him a single question. How do you guage a guy who just replaced in without talking to him?

I'm reading what you're asking him. There's not much for me to add to what you want him to do, heh.


There's not a single thing you want to ask Dandel, who is apparently the only person you can see flipping scum other than MrZ?

No, I said you're already asking him the questions I want answers to.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:54 GMT
#1123
On January 09 2013 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 11:47 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:44 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:42 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:33 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:30 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:23 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Welp. If you're going to troll from here on out, I'm going to lynch you.

What will it be?

What is it you think I should be doing, repeating myself over and over about why I want to lynch Zentor like he's doing with me?

I'm gauging Dandel at the moment because the person he replaced could definitely have been the other scum.

Otherwise, I highly doubt you, DP, or Zbo are scum. Jay probably isn't either, from what I've been reading of his filter.


Any analysis would help. You screaming MrZ is useless/scum won't get you anywhere. Read filters, post cases, etc.

Like you have a town read on Jay all of a sudden. Why? What's the reasoning?
Why would you put Z-Bo in the same category as two confirmed townies?

What is in Zentor's filter besides "lynch people, I'm confirmed town, you're confirmed town, lynch this guy"?

It's a pretty accurate assessment IMO. Do you really want me to pick out all the posts where he does exactly this?


Reasoning on Jay. Go.
Hell you're trying to "gauge Dandel Ion" right now, but you haven't asked him a single question. How do you guage a guy who just replaced in without talking to him?

I'm reading what you're asking him. There's not much for me to add to what you want him to do, heh.


There's not a single thing you want to ask Dandel, who is apparently the only person you can see flipping scum other than MrZ?

No, I said you're already asking him the questions I want answers to.


Do you have free time tomorrow? Because I want you to take over for me in that regard.

In the afternoon I have some. I'll make sure he's a contributing town member, Hapa.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 02:56 GMT
#1125
On January 09 2013 11:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 11:43 DarthPunk wrote:
YAY. I am back. I actually was leaning town on yamato which is in stark contrast to the rest of the thread it seems.

Firstly, I don't see a scum yamato hammering Xatalos like he did. Three people hadn't voted yet, there was no reason to draw attention to himself with the hammer. Obviously that could be the very reason he did it but I don't see newer scum players such as yamato having the balls to do that.

Secondly, his suspicion and push of CC, although proven wrong now, Seemed very genuine. He put a lot of time and effort into pursuing his top scum read DESPITE hapa fucking nailing him to the wall for it the entire time.
Like, pushing CC as scum with hapa all over you for it and continuing to do so whilst faking the kind of frustration yamato was showing is very difficult and highly unlikely.

He pursued his top scum read DESPITE also having to flame with hapa to do so. He could have pushed far easier targets but PERSISTED despite much adversity.

Yeah so I am NOT down for a yamato lynch and I suggest everyone think long and hard about their read of him.

REMEMBER being wrong does not = Scum. In fact it is regularly a trait of being townie.


Ya I disagree.

Since when do you have to flame other people to push your lynch?
It's perfectly possible without doing that. When you're town that is.

Frustration will come up naturally when nobody wants to lynch your lynch. Don't see the townread.

The hammering is null at best, since it can be seen as wifom.

Being wrong is definetly NOT a town-tell. Stop that thinking.


Your townread doesn't seem to be based on much.

So I'm not town, okay.

Why am I scum, Dandel? Aside from process of elimination, of course.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 03:07 GMT
#1133
On January 09 2013 12:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
I'm starting to feel like Hapa is the only one who can read me. :/


You have no one to blame for that but yourself IMO

This. If you want people to think you're town and not scum you should ACT LIKE IT.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 03:14 GMT
#1135
On January 09 2013 12:09 MrZentor wrote:
Yeah, but whenever I act town, I get lynched instantly.

This is the best solution really.

If I weren't playing like this, Xatalos wouldn't have been the first lynch.

So your excuse is, I don't want to play like town because I get lynched?

Do you know how to play town at all?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 03:19 GMT
#1136
What I'm getting at here is that the only argument you have put forth for me being scum, that I can see, is that I'm attacking you, and people that attack you are scum. But how do I, as town, know you aren't scum if you can't play town by your own admission?

Furthermore, how am I supposed to be able to get a town read on you, or any read at all if you play like this as town and scum?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 03:36 GMT
#1140
Eywa fucked me over last game.

Do not compare me to that asshole.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 05:27 GMT
#1144
Jay, who do you want to lynch?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 06:10 GMT
#1146
On January 09 2013 15:03 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 14:27 yamato77 wrote:
Jay, who do you want to lynch?

At the moment I would vote for you or Ion. I actually agree with Zentor on his townie list. Its a process of elimination but tbh it think it should work fine. We have two confirmed blues with no scum counter claim, hapa who if scum then we all fucked.

That leaves Zentor, Yamato, Ion, Z-Boson. I agree with Zentors reads sporatic as they may b.

So that leaves You, Ion and Z-Boson.

I am not sure about Z-Boson but a couple of townies have a town read on him. So No go for that lynch today.

And that leaves you and Ion TBH i thought this would have been over with yet cause the lynch goes thru if its HAPA approved.



@Yamato
What was your motive for lynching Xatalos btw with out waiting for the town to come to an agreement?

Do you feel comfortable voting for Ion, Why or why not?

With that many people voting for Xatalos and agreeing he looked scummy, I felt confident enough in my read to see him lynched. Most of town had already given their opinion on the matter. I've explained this before.

As for Dandel, I don't like his entrance, much for the same reasons Hapa and DP have given. The dude comes in, says he would lynch me (prime target) and never justifies the read except by arguing that DP shouldn't have a town read on me. Scum would want to enter the thread like this because I am a 'safe' scum read to have right now.

What I am interested in right now is some analysis from you on your scum reads. What about me or Dandel makes us worth lynching? What makes Zentor townie to you?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 06:45 GMT
#1148
On January 09 2013 15:32 Z-BosoN wrote:
Just checking in, I've had a busy day, and am really really tired atm. Am going to sleep, tomorrow I'll update my reads. Pc

We've basically heard nothing from you in a long time. I look forward to seeing what you think of this. Right now you are in my "most likely town but not confirmed" category, but your inactivity is weakening this.

What I want to know:

Why did/do you want to lynch jay? What do you think of Dandel's entrance and reads?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 08:42 GMT
#1149
@Jay
On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.

Shiaopi and Yamato

Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.

Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D

Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.

I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.

Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?


This is the only post I could find where you gave any reason for thinking that I am scum after calling me frustrated town here:


On January 08 2013 14:21 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 14:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 08 2013 14:00 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 08 2013 13:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay,

You seem not to care whether you lynch town or scum. What gives? You made that comment about lynching a detrimental townie to me, now you think shaiopi would be a good lynch whether hes scum or town.

Also, you've been very inactive / not involved in the thread as well. Why are you in favor of a SP lynch?


I never said he would be a good lynch if hes town. I said his inactivity hurts us whether hes scum or town.


In the end I can never know for sure if you, ShaioPi, ZBoson, Zentor or anyone else for that matter is town or scum. However if ShaioPi looks scummy then we should by all means lynch him.

So far he hasn't given us much content to go off and determine his alignment. I dont want him at LYLO because if he stays at this post rate we still wont have much to go on.

I have been a bit inactive I find it hard to continually post content. Also it find it difficult to continue to contributing when my best scum read is still alive. I had this same problem before with kata in one of my past games I got to tunneled on her and didn't branch out on other people.


CC whos your biggest scum read atm?


You said you would be down for his lynch. How does he look scummy with the exception of lurking? What makes him have a good chance of flipping scum?

Well lets see here he was on a Mislynch could be null tell could be scummy.

I posted a case on him earlier that i thought he was scummy. He has done nothing to change my read of him. Do you think that he has done anything townie?

I Think your im scummy tunnel me shit is stupid as fuck. I would say that I think that Yamato just sounds like a frustrated townie still. He's trying to give his read, and hapa is busy defending you who the fuck knows why I think he should let you defend yourself, If you do it properly at least. Instead of this im scummy tunnel me bullshit thats not helping anyone.

I dont like that Hapa is so confident your town. Now your scum reads plz


How did this read change? What about what I've done between now and then made me a viable lynch candidate? Because I could certainly make the point that this looks like you're just jumping on a person you have already called "lynch bait" in the thread.


On January 07 2013 08:23 jaybrundage wrote:
That was so badddddddddddddddddd. I was gonna go reread Xaltos posting cause the more i looked at him the more i could see townie. Like we lynched him when he wasnt even here. I only see a scum driven wagon when I look at the votes.

Hapa questions do you think that both of the scum could of been on that wagon.

Do you think it was scummy as fuck for what Zentor and Yamato did. Hammaring with out talking to the town first is terrible we should all b agreeing on shit. Not do rash dumb actons


Also I want better explanation of this post. You come in after we lynch someone you had no part in defending. You gave a weakish town read in the thread, but all you did day 1 was push CC the whole time. Why would you want to make a post like this as town? You're using the fact that it was a mislynch to throw shit at the people who got him lynched. Scum love to do this, and the fact that it's instant majority makes that tactic all the more effective given the nature of the votes.

I can just imagine a scum sitting back and watching town pile votes on a town player, and then making this exact type of post after the lynch to look smug.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 09 2013 22:42 GMT
#1255
Hey Dandel I'm flattered you find me town but I want you to give some evidence for that read switch since you seemed to want to lynch me before. Right now it seems you're just going with the flavor of the thread which is not encouraging.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 10 2013 03:41 GMT
#1460
Holy shit you guys posted a lot.

I went to sleep after work because I literally only had two hours of sleep beforehand and now I wake up to like 10 pages and a lynch.

Wow. Why did Dandel get wagoned on so fast? I'm going to have to take a closer look at those vote posts.
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