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On January 08 2013 15:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Ya know Z-Bo, I do think you have a very good point about MrZ.
In Witchcraft Mini, MrZ tunneled me all of Night 1 and most of Day 2 because I wasn't yet dead. While the logic is similar, the intensity with which he pushed my wagon was far different than he's doing this game. In fact in Witchcraft, he was much more concerned with scumhunting, even on Day 1.
I think the overall quality of his reads this game is fairly normal for a town MrZ. However he's been pushing his reads far differently this game.
Gah, thank you! Suggesting me as scum and just doing rats ass about it and being useless was just T_T
For now I suggest you drop these meta-ings and look at his overall play. Then when things get more decisive you bring out the meta-ing and stuff.
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On January 08 2013 15:59 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 15:44 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 08 2013 15:37 yamato77 wrote:
GUYS
Hey guys.
I have a secret.
The secret is
Hapa only has town reads on scummy trolls.
Wait there's more!
If you stay a scummy troll the whole game he'll think you're CONFIRMED TOWN.
I know my plan. That's just plain unnecessary, I think he's being way more insightful and specific than that. What the fuck is the point of that post I'm illustrating the ridiculousness of Hapa's defense of CC's play. Who honestly thinks that guy is useful at all? He's basically claiming scum with all his "tunnel me" bullshit. I don't see why he shouldn't hang.
And what about mr.Z? He was your top scum read at one point in this game. Do you still consider him a scum read?
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With that being said I'll take a better look at CC tomorrow. He's been quite active, and I'd rather lynch into people who don't really seem to give a shit.
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Hm a claim
That simplifies things
The lack of blue VT claim makes me think that we have a rolecop. No one has counterclaimed so it seems that both mr.CC and Hapa are basically confirmed town now.
And ShiaoPi is still missing.
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MrZ, why do you hate calling me town, and why am I probably town? This does not seem compatible with your earlier interactions with me
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On January 09 2013 06:57 MrZentor wrote:
You're lucky RiseAgain was obvi town. lol
So you thought Rise/me was obv town, yet earlier splurged suspicion on someone you considered as such. Bull. Shit.
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Also, I like Hapa's observation on yamato on his stance on CC, I hand't seen his "huge town read" earlier. Wonder what changed his mind
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On January 09 2013 07:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I see CC claimed medic day two :/
Well no point in not doing this now. I am Named VT. i.e. A House of Parliament.
Seems I'm 4/4 correct on you =D
This also confirms DP, imo, unless there is a counterclaim.
That leaves two out of ShiaoPi, mrZ, yamato and jay.
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On January 09 2013 07:04 MrZentor wrote:
I didn't know then, but rereading through RiseAgain's filter made it obvious to me.
I knew you were probably town from you sharing all your reads, but there's no harm in making sure by putting you under a little pressure.
You should be happy I'm adding you to my list of confirmed townies. (YaaaYYAAYYYYyyaayyy)
Oh yes, that sure looked like some pressure. You spent quite some time on me, making very precise reads on my reaction. Bs, anyone?
@DP
Still think he's town, or are you still not reading?
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On January 09 2013 07:12 MrZentor wrote:I don't know why you'd keep two obviously townie players in there.
They are not obviously town. You are taking very weak tells and making them very strong, whilst ignoring many aspects of his play. You are closer to obviously scum to me.
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On January 09 2013 07:19 MrZentor wrote:
Z-BosoN, you're silly and bad at reading both me and Jay.
I know you're town, but wasting your time accusing me, even though quite a few other townies KNOW I'm not scum, is foolish.
Go pressure somebody who is actually scum.
I trust my own reads, and saying how everybody knows you are town is not the way you can deal with my case against you.
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Just checking in, I've had a busy day, and am really really tired atm. Am going to sleep, tomorrow I'll update my reads. Pc
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Allright catching up.
Hi dandel!
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On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.
Shiaopi and Yamato
Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.
Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D
Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.
I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.
Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?
Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate?
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On January 10 2013 03:36 jaybrundage wrote:Saying scum rarely pile all there members onto a single mislynch is WIFOM. Also there is only two scum as well so it becomes alot easier to accomplish this. Also I also have a PM and mine is actually green  We both know that regardless of your alignment you would have to claim town ofc. Also Z-Boson you have kind of declined in activity. Thoughts on ShiaoPi and Dandel plz
Will take a look at dandel, lemme catch up!
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On January 10 2013 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Z-Bo
Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him.
Concerned how? I've been busy.
Also, I'm not placing my vote because I don't want to start an avalanche like last time, I thought you yourself wanted to drag this on longer...
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On January 10 2013 03:41 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.
Shiaopi and Yamato
Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.
Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D
Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.
I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.
Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?
Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate? I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold.
This makes zero sense. Scum are much more likely to give townreads. It is also troubling on how convinced he seems to be. I need some confirmation from you hapa, but in witchcraft did he also insistently just keep saying "I know he is town, I know he is scum, lynch him"? Because that sums up a large portion of what Mr.Z has been doing lately.
Also, his attitude is anti-town, he doesn't promote discussion with it and doesn't add anything.
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On January 10 2013 04:22 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 04:21 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Z-Bo
Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him. Concerned how? I've been busy. Also, I'm not placing my vote because I don't want to start an avalanche like last time, I thought you yourself wanted to drag this on longer... Well yes, but you've been 100% convinced that MrZ is scum for the better part of the last 2 days.
Did I say that somewhere?
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On January 10 2013 04:30 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 04:26 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 04:22 Hapahauli wrote:On January 10 2013 04:21 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Z-Bo
Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him. Concerned how? I've been busy. Also, I'm not placing my vote because I don't want to start an avalanche like last time, I thought you yourself wanted to drag this on longer... Well yes, but you've been 100% convinced that MrZ is scum for the better part of the last 2 days. Did I say that somewhere? It's kinda implied from your filter given that he's been your top scumread forevvvvvver and has done nothing to vindicate himself in your eyes since.
I don't understand you, sir. What is it you would think my vote would accomplish?
But I'll agree that I've spent a lot of time on mrZ, I'm going to work on other reads, mainly dandel right now.
Yamato seems to be a concern of some folks here, I'll go through his filter as well
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On January 10 2013 04:33 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 04:25 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 03:41 jaybrundage wrote:On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.
Shiaopi and Yamato
Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.
Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D
Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.
I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.
Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?
Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate? I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold. This makes zero sense. Scum are much more likely to give townreads. It is also troubling on how convinced he seems to be. I need some confirmation from you hapa, but in witchcraft did he also insistently just keep saying "I know he is town, I know he is scum, lynch him"? Because that sums up a large portion of what Mr.Z has been doing lately. Also, his attitude is anti-town, he doesn't promote discussion with it and doesn't add anything. Surely you can read through his Witchcraft game and find this out for yourself no?
Or I can save time by asking a quasi-confirmed townie who's played with him on something that's pretty much a yes or no question >.<
I'll add that to my todo list
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