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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2013 00:03 GMT
#921
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2013 00:03 GMT
#922
Well done.

i actually thougth sylencia reply was weird.

ohh well
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
January 11 2013 00:06 GMT
#923
gg wp Syl
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 00:16:59
January 11 2013 00:15 GMT
#924
really good game by Syl

Edit: And sorry for not being as active as a coach as I should have been. Was kind of troublesome reading 3 games at once while reading up on a 4th one... my bad.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2013 00:17 GMT
#925
Syl, great game. I just read the mafia QT.. it was pretty much you and toad lols.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 11 2013 00:30 GMT
#926
GG Syl! I'm glad I was the first one to suspect you, and read you early on, but obviously taht doesn't count for much.

GG all, sorry for lynching the cop and acting scummy
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2013 01:07 GMT
#927
gg wp Sylencia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
January 11 2013 01:35 GMT
#928
GG everyone, game was pretty hard and it seems the obs were on to me too quickly

Some of the things which people were questioning during the game:

My roleblocking choices were chosen to make it look more like a JK rather than a RB (following Spag's advice from N1).
The idea was that I would roleblock the kill N2 and then claim it D3, but then everything kind of went too fast because Temil went afk.

After Spag got revealed as cop I had to kill OE off since there wasn't a second RB claim he had to be JK.

In retrospect I wish I kept the Roleblock on Spag because it would've made my D/N2 plans a lot clearer in a sense, but who knows

My attempted bussing of Temil happened at the end of D1 because I realised he wasn't looking at the scum QT at all, and I got awfully nervous when he voted the same person I did.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
January 11 2013 02:04 GMT
#929
Bwahaha GG!

Very well played Syl!

I'd have voted Jamp in the end as well Moc and Zare, so don't worry take the end-game too hard!
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 11 2013 02:10 GMT
#930
WP Syl. GJ winning by yourself.
Grubby's #1 Fan
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
January 11 2013 03:16 GMT
#931
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 11 2013 03:37 GMT
#932
I just think you need to stop having ridiculous amounts of confirmation bias Moc. It hurt the town so much this game. If you would have lynched Jampi D2 instead of Spag, it would've been a lot easier to point out Syl, and Spag could have done a better job of arguing his innocence.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
January 11 2013 03:56 GMT
#933
Just want to say... way to hang in there jampi. You lasted maybe 1-2 posts longer than I would have with all the shit you were catching XD
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
January 11 2013 04:02 GMT
#934
Sorry for not believing you, jampi. Your post outlining Syl's voting was a good case, and I forgot your soft town claim about coaches.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2013 04:21 GMT
#935
On January 11 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I just think you need to stop having ridiculous amounts of confirmation bias Moc. It hurt the town so much this game. If you would have lynched Jampi D2 instead of Spag, it would've been a lot easier to point out Syl, and Spag could have done a better job of arguing his innocence.


Im not going to say anything more to this than the below. I think you are being unreasonable in your statement.


I don't disagree with the confirmation bias. The obs qt clearly indicates what they thought; some of it was disapointing to read, but honesty is appreciated none-the-less.
Its a shame, because it was a goal of mine to reduce the tunneling; obviously I failed.


I will contest the overall statement however. I think from where you are sitting, its very easy to point a finger to suggest one point of blame; instead I would think that in general there was a severe lack of critical thinking.

*note with the following, I am not saying my cases are good*.. I would also suggest that: if all of my cases/reads were so poor, then why did others bandwagon with me.
You say I led the town astray, perhaps I did.. but why was no one critically questioning the cases/reads I gave?

I think the blame is to be distributed to the many participants of town; not just myself.



Im not taking anything away from Sylencia.. until his last post, i thought he was set town.
Hence, to me, he did an excellent job, even though everyone in the QT is obviously a vet and picked up on him straight away. If you read the mafia QT, he was pretty much flying solo, and even more amazing effort on his behalf.

FYI, though Sylencia last post made me reconsider everything; I did not bother anymore to push him, because zarepath voted and jampidampi rage quitted.. what would the point be. I wrote the hammer vote thing because, with 3 votes. you need 4 to overtake which was impossible; and if i voted no-lynch, jampidampi was still on the table. lose/lose situation.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
January 11 2013 04:40 GMT
#936
moc, don't take the QT too personal. We're not playing the game so it's quite different in game than calling scum from QT.

About the hammer vote thing, you and zare could have switched to sylencia and lynched him instead. You don't need to get 4 votes just to override the previous 3. Sylencia just needs more votes than jampi at lynch count, doesn't matter how many either have had in the past except to decide who gets lynched in a tie. For example, in the case where jampi gets the 2 votes from sylencia and zare, it wouldn't matter if you voted sylencia in that case because jampi had 2 first, unless zare switched as well, in which case 3 on sylencia lynches him over 1 on jampi.

I think the main thing you should work on in the future, besides confirmation bias issues, is creating a more comfortable town environment. People should feel open to giving their thoughts, not scared that they're going to anger you more (scum are automatically scared without you doing anything). If you're "confirmed town" (which everyone believed you to be at the end), no need to be a bully and try to call the shots, just keep playing and searching for scum. Perhaps if jampi thought he had a chance at convincing you of his innocence, maybe he tries a bit harder near the end?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2013 04:52 GMT
#937
Rad; Thanks for the constructive feedback.. that is all I am seeking. It also echoes the flavour that was (in a good way) making fun of my actions.

And noted on the hammer vote, makes sense, but I didn't put two and two together at the time.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 11 2013 04:58 GMT
#938
Big shout out to all the townies in this game, almost everyone came to me for coaching and it was clear that they were working on improving their play during the game. I had a lot of fun with you all and I hope I was at least somewhat helpful.

If anyone wants to talk to me about their play feel free to pm me.

<3
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
January 11 2013 05:00 GMT
#939
prome why no feedback on your questions in qt TT

or did i miss it?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 11 2013 05:18 GMT
#940
You didn't miss it. Starting to write it up. I'm on a tablet right now and it's use has severely limited me in my quoting and posting.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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