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On February 06 2013 09:01 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Marv, here's your lie. I myself wouldn't use the word lie, but you are definititely twisting the truth. Also thanks for making me go over the beginning of the game again, I found a GEM What you said: What you did, in chronological order (and cutting out SnB's trolly savannah stuff). + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2013 11:38 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: marv here. s&b has been hilariously absent of late and was supposed to teach me magic and hasn't. I plan to nag him though. In other news, why are you telling mafia how they might look more townie? I don't understand the motivation behind saying what I bolded at all. You're doing an awful lot of talking about what mafia should and will be doing. Thread entry. Note the bolded part. For the record, Dandel wasn't, he was stating the absolute fucking obvious. + Show Spoiler [Dandel's followup] + On January 29 2013 11:41 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Merely stating the truth. What would you do in regards to it? In the purely hypothetical case you were scum of course. Also, you don't post much. What gives? ~dandel Irrelevant to the case On January 29 2013 11:49 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: I haven't posted much because I literally found out the deck s&b submitted two hours ago. In case you aren't mafia, here's a pro-tip: don't tell mafia what to do to make you consider them as townies. It should be fucking obvious, but here I am saying it. On January 29 2013 11:58 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: It wasn't a bad post at all. It was a good post. It's not my fault if you're too stupid to comprehend this. The intentions behind my post were perfectly clear. I find it suspicious. Wait.. WHAT? Telling mafia what to do is suspicious? So telling mafia what to do makes you... mafia? Imagine that! Stop! Dandel! You are giving yourself ideas you would otherwise never have had! A badtell? Hell yes. If Dandel had actually been telling mafia a non-obvious thing they could do to make themselves look townie, this would be bad. But how is it suspicious? I'll tell you how: scum Marv didn't think this through, saw someone make a bad play and tried to cash in on it for some cheap scumhunting points. Now, on with what I was actually doing. The first thing you did in the thread was clearly not to "agree" with a crossfire case, because there wasn't even a crossfire case. The first thing you did was also not to attack Aperture, but rather to attack Clockwork. Lets continue. There's quite a bit more on the above little thing, and a load of fluff. Then come the second and third "things" he does in the thread: + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2013 12:15 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: No, he seems to be posting too much to be mafia right now. I mean, he could be trying to take some weird control as mafia, but probably not. Second thing he does is give a town read on Poster. On January 30 2013 05:00 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: well that attitude isn't going to get you anywhere, dear. what did you think of s&b's policy post? Ignores scumhunting in favour of deflection. Finally, the 4th thing he does is to agree with the Xfire case and "attack" AS (if this pressure can be called an attack): + Show Spoiler [post] + On January 30 2013 05:08 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: Yeah, I can't add too much more to what's been said about Crossfire, I generally agree. I especially noted how Crossfire called himself a magic noob (like me) but then proceeded to wade in with some strange Magic waffle (unlike me). I'm also not sure whether iGrok is on menopause, or maybe mafia: Given he said this, all he's done is shout at people. This post from Grey rubbed me the wrong way, although I'm not sure how warranted I am to think so: Like, gosh guys, I'm so excited to be playing, except I can't play for another 3 days yet, so definitely keep me around till then guys, right? However, that thing he is so proud of? He recants the suspicion on his scumbuddy about 24 hours later: + Show Spoiler [xfire not scum] + On January 31 2013 04:33 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: crossfire seems overwhelmed. legitimate reaction for someone who doesnt know mtg and doesnt have a partner to ask about it. his big post about ch is interesting. hes right that theres a contradiction in the first two posts he identifies, but the contradiction is completely explainable by ch reacting differently towards crossfire (relative noob) and igrok (very vet), ch took the same question seriously from igrok. i dont see scum motivation in that contradiction, and (to both his blame (bad townie play) and credit (at least he didnt try to make up some bullshit)) crossfire doesnt explain the possible scum motivation at all. however, in his second point he is kind of pointing out a contradiction that does have scum motivation. the quotes that he has from ch do seem to indicate "beware of giving any one person too much power" "oh wait i mean, unless its me lol". everything else in his filter is either self defense or just expressing being overwhelmed. i guess i like that he tried to do some analysis anyway. overall conclusion: possible scum? hes doing a lot of defense and "oh me oh my" ing but otoh this is a fast paced game with weird ass mechanics where we are all talking about the mechanics all the time. id wait a few days before lynching him to give him a chance to feel less overwhelmed. good thing we can't lynch anyone today anyway. And THAT is his official opinion until Xfire claims scum. TLDR: claims he "agreed" with the Xfire case, whereas he actually spent the important part (attack phase, where we could actually do damage to scumspects) of T1 claiming Xfire was newbie town, not scum. Gem: telling mafia what to do is a badtell, not a scumtell. Marv is a veteran and knows that, yet he was suspicious of Dandel for "telling mafia what to do". That's because scum Marv wanted to quickly cash in on some bad play and discredit a townie in the process. Scum Marv must die /Acro lol wat. s&b said that, not me. better luck next time. And sure I was suspicious of play like dandel's, it' either bad or mafia, which is why I gave the pro-tip. Anyway you're bad and boring. Hi Hopeless (not zeb, hopeless). Do you think I'm mafia, if so, why? Make it a proper answer if you do, pretty plz | ||
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if you've never seen it in games before you're doing it wrong. that could well have been an example ggnore | ||
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On February 06 2013 09:47 Acrofales wrote: 1. + Show Spoiler [here] + On February 01 2013 06:29 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: This game's looking quite decent. In order of towniness: gonz/Prome - blates town me/s&b - town too. slightly less town than gonz because i haven't seen our role PM even though s&b promises we're town Binonfire - Minds Aglow totes pro-town, Oats being silly with it also probably town Hopeless/zebeszt - probably townish too, posts don't show any fear (lol) Stutters - let's call this dude town for now, seems kinda interested Acro/dand - have hardons for calling me mafia, but maybe they just like that sort of thing. Decent case on Crossfire, although if I was lynching for meta, I'd be lynching s&b. Crossfire seems a good deal more interested than he was in... Mario Mafia as scum. Crossfire - see above, could still be mafia Nova - scummy, see awesome burgler case Aperture - kill it with fire! see also awesome gonzaw case. The more I think about it the less I like how iGrok declared Bin scummy because Oats was disagreeing with MG on Minds Aglow. Seems really superficial. Ta-da! 2. But that's not at all what you said. You said it was suspicious that he was telling mafia what to do. Not that it was suspicious that he had made a load of posts that looked like they were contributing but weren't. 3. Giving generic advice isn't a scumtell unless it's your only contribution quite a bit further into the game. Otherwise 99% of TL Mafia is looking suspicious in the first 12 hours of a game. Your problem was also clearly not with it being generic advice. Your problem was that giving mafia advice on how to look townie was suspicious. PS. Putting stuff in red is awesome and you'll never stop me. how is crossfire as 3rd scummiest in the game make him town? :/ 2/3 - it was early, so what? this is literally a non-point in every aspect | ||
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On February 06 2013 05:27 Nova_Terra wrote: 1. I have the feeling that you are wrong on Marv 2. I'd be cool with killing appy today and getting rid of a defender or two of RockHydra's | ||
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On February 06 2013 10:24 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: The remaining KP is enough to kill Aperture, Clock. If I made the correct calculations. I'm not sure if I would want him dead alongside Suck today......but as some wise men have said thousands of years ago: fuck it If the plan is killing all 4 of Aperture/Suck/Nova/Rock until one of them flips red, then I guess better kill them as soon as possible. I thought Nova/Rock would have higher chances of flipping scum though than Aperture/Suck though. Suck, would you be okay dying today if Aperture is killed as well? Or are you still concerned about a scum Clock? If so, what do you propose we do to make him "killable" if we ever find out (somehow) he's scum like you are fearing? Also, even though the KP today is enough to kill both Appy/someone else, if there is only 1 kill today, but if the remaining damage still goes to Rock/Nova/Suck/Appy, then we can still kill all remaining 3 tomorrow (assuming we can indeed kill 2 of them tomorrow). Hmm....maybe we should plan our KP for next turn. I have 6, plus anything I can draw. /G eh? if you're sure CH is town then i'll roll with that. mostly that's why i've been finding his tunnelling just hilarious today. | ||
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On February 06 2013 10:39 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Yes, although I don't know your hand, you can "go off" tomorrow, dealing well over 20 damage, which is one of the reasons YOU need to die today. The main reason, though, is because you're scum. lol give it a rest, dear. | ||
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ahahahahahahahahaa i presume you get the irony? | ||
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oh my god. I am literally laughing out loud right now. | ||
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