EPTAlso lol @ the lying part. You might know yourself better than I do but I certainly don't think the best judge of one's play in mafia is himself.
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wherebugsgo
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Also lol @ the lying part. You might know yourself better than I do but I certainly don't think the best judge of one's play in mafia is himself. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
The second is I don't understand how trying to figure out player's alignments can be a waste of time, it's kinda the point of the game dude. I'm reaching out to you bro. Embrace the hug! | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 19 2012 21:11 wherebugsgo wrote: Also lol @ the lying part. You might know yourself better than I do but I certainly don't think the best judge of one's play in mafia is himself. Well I thought you'd judge what I do based on past experiences. I've proclaimed myself King as mafia, I've claimed an insane cop for no good reason. I do powerplays all the time, and if I say that I'd take the chance to this powerplay I would. However you are somewhat right, because due to how publicly I despise miller claims, in the end I wouldn't do it. My point was that if I wasn't bound to playing to my meta, I would take this risk. However no one would believe me claiming miller on day 1. I wouldn't even do it if I was town anyway. | ||
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Palmar
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wherebugsgo
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I have no reason to make public reads that are better off being developed in private. Tainting reads by giving your targets forewarning that they're being watched carefully is generally (I've found) a good way to ruin them, at least on day 1. That's why I like to observe, for the most part, or at least cause some reactions, without putting forth all of my motives. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 19 2012 21:37 wherebugsgo wrote: I have no reason to make public reads that are better off being developed in private. Tainting reads by giving your targets forewarning that they're being watched carefully is generally (I've found) a good way to ruin them, at least on day 1. Everyone is being watched anyway. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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You can make reads on players and call them out when it's an appropriate time to do so, e.g. when you are sure of your read. At this stage in the game it's pretty much impossible to be sure of most things. | ||
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Palmar
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Toadesstern
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
I just got into work... God what a nice day it is today, how are you all feeling? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 19 2012 22:57 Eywa- wrote: Hey guys, I just got into work... God what a nice day it is today, how are you all feeling? I'm fine. But bugs is ignoring me  Guess he's asleep right now. Do you have any thoughts about anything yet? | ||
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sciberbia
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debears The main thing I find suspicious about debears is that he twice seemed to be demanding explanation from other people, but then backed off rather easily when they failed to explain themselves. See spoiler for quotes + Show Spoiler + On December 19 2012 09:33 debears wrote: I've done the same thing before. Claiming VT serves no useful purpose for town early d1 On December 19 2012 09:50 debears wrote: I don't remember that at all actually. And mind explaining what pro-town purpose your claim has? On December 19 2012 09:51 Vivax wrote: Maybe later  On December 19 2012 09:52 debears wrote: Fair enough Debears immediately voted Vivax and made a followup question. I found it odd that he backed off so easily. He recently unvoted Vivax as well. This suggests to me that he wanted to appear to be asking important questions, but didn't want to draw too much attention to himself. Next is his little back-and-forth with iamperfection: + Show Spoiler + On December 19 2012 09:38 debears wrote: Hey iamp. Quick question. I would like to hear how you don't remember mario mini http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440 You should check out the playerlist. You should recognize a certain someone on there On December 19 2012 09:41 debears wrote: Eh. True. I would just think that SnB screaming "Kenpachi rule!!!" would have come across your brain  Similar thing here. In the 1st quote, debears seems to be implying that iamperfection is scummy for maliciously not remembering Mario Mini. But in the 2nd quote, he backs off when iamperfection gives an obvious answer. Why bother to ask the question at all if you're going to be satisfied with "I just don't remember"? iamperfection I find iamperfection's start to the game a bit scummy. I think the main motivation behind scum posts at the start of D1 is to quickly be established as an "active poster" and not a lurker. iamperfection's posts are many in number, but a lot of them are pretty pointless and give me the feeling that he's posting just for the sake of posting: + Show Spoiler + On December 19 2012 09:38 iamperfection wrote: hey i think your arbitrary post limit is stupid and you shouldn't do it. If your town i want to know what you think and if your scum well the walls will come crashing down eventually. So either way i don't want a posting restriction from you On December 19 2012 10:16 iamperfection wrote: of what have fun with your role play stuff but from your post you have actually commented on absolutely nothing. So im thinking maybe scum what you think? I'd appreciate some thoughts on my points. Palmar, you can consider this your two people to analyze if you want. Apparently, you've already looked at debears, so do you agree or disagree with what I said? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 19 2012 22:47 Toadesstern wrote: Do you think I'm stupid or do you hope someone else is stupid bugs? I think you're all dumb. How's that? | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On December 19 2012 22:20 Palmar wrote: Whatever, your refusal to share any of your thoughts make it hard to get a read on you. Maybe we should just lynch you to get a read on you. This is a pretty empty threat given that it's less than 24 hours into day 1 and no one has done much at all. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
My head is spinning a little bit now that I think of it, it was a little too much action for me last night. However, I did see sciberbia and iamperfection at the Tavern as well, so I doubt they have anything to do with it. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 19 2012 23:24 Eywa- wrote: Well, I was pretty drunk last night as I was out late at the Tavern... As I wander home, I stumbled and fell... A strange figure walked out from the shadows, though I could not make out his face, I dare not show myself as he seemed rather keen on making sure no one was about. I think he might be planning something... I could only guess at this point, but the figure kind of seemed similar to that of debears, I can't say for sure. My head is spinning a little bit now that I think of it, it was a little too much action for me last night. However, I did see sciberbia and iamperfection at the Tavern as well, so I doubt they have anything to do with it. I don't ask about your thoughts to know the "results". I asked about your thoughts to get the reasoning. I get that it's still early in the game but giving names, coloring their names and making a cute story to back it up isn't exactly helpful. Mafias don't have problems giving you reads. Mafias have problems explaining the reads they're giving. So obviously I want you to, to see how you're doing. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
To add to your case, I had already noticed this post as you did: On December 19 2012 09:33 debears wrote: I've done the same thing before. Claiming VT serves no useful purpose for town early d1 What sticks out to me here is the first part. The second part is obviously correct, but the first part is interesting, why is it included in this post? It's not necessary to drive the point across, it doesn't help debears press the issue, all there is to it is an attempt to convince that since this is what he does, we need not worry about him being mafia. I need to read more, but I think maybe we have a good option here for a lynch. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 19 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote: I don't ask about your thoughts to know the "results". I asked about your thoughts to get the reasoning. I get that it's still early in the game but giving names, coloring their names and making a cute story to back it up isn't exactly helpful. Mafias don't have problems giving you reads. Mafias have problems explaining the reads they're giving. So obviously I want you to, to see how you're doing. Well, I'm simply an engineer who works at a power plant... I am no lawyer, however, I will pursue this lead and bring up what I can find. I am nothing if not adaptable. | ||
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Palmar
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Toadesstern
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On December 19 2012 23:32 Palmar wrote: @sciberbia To add to your case, I had already noticed this post as you did: What sticks out to me here is the first part. The second part is obviously correct, but the first part is interesting, why is it included in this post? It's not necessary to drive the point across, it doesn't help debears press the issue, all there is to it is an attempt to convince that since this is what he does, we need not worry about him being mafia. I need to read more, but I think maybe we have a good option here for a lynch. yeah agree. Imo those 3 ones in conjunction are equally interessting, if not more so: On December 19 2012 09:33 debears wrote: I've done the same thing before. Claiming VT serves no useful purpose for town early d1 On December 19 2012 09:34 debears wrote: Town. Mario mini dawg He's basicly telling us to lynch the guy because he's doing something stupid with the reasoning that he once did the very same thing AS TOWN. Given his history he at least should be the guy telling people something the lines of "okay, this guy is retarded but sometimes townies are retarded. I did the same mistake in a recent game" given how people apparently love to defend other people... well or at least not bring it up the way he did. Instead he's insta-voting him with a flawed logic when he should be well aware of all that. | ||
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