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On December 24 2012 07:07 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 24 2012 06:55 yamato77 wrote: I mean, you do realize that you're a potential lynch candidate right? So if you are town don't you want to prove it instead of letting us think about lynching you?
Or are you just not reading the thread? I am completely fine with getting lynched because it will probably teach a lesson to you all in how to not suck at this game. That post is was @Stutters but thanks for replying as to your mentality at the moment. Debears has 11 votes on him and you feel guilty enough to post all this defensive shit.
nice logic.
I'm defending myself, therefore I'm scum.
Do you even think about this shit before you post it?
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Also I'm not impressed with you pushing lynches on lurkers. Scum would have to do this at the moment because of the same logic you posted about. There are a bunch of people who are basically confirmed town if we take their claims at face value.
But then later on you make your big complaint post with some shit about how good scum players could make these fake claims? Nice job trying to throw doubt on the town's consensus. I think you realized that you are firmly in the circle of players we are going to lynch into and felt the need to either push the lurkers or throw doubt on the town's circle. So you did both. Just like debears. Just like Promethelax.
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On December 24 2012 07:11 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 07:07 yamato77 wrote:On December 24 2012 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 24 2012 06:55 yamato77 wrote: I mean, you do realize that you're a potential lynch candidate right? So if you are town don't you want to prove it instead of letting us think about lynching you?
Or are you just not reading the thread? I am completely fine with getting lynched because it will probably teach a lesson to you all in how to not suck at this game. That post is was @Stutters but thanks for replying as to your mentality at the moment. Debears has 11 votes on him and you feel guilty enough to post all this defensive shit. nice logic. I'm defending myself, therefore I'm scum. Do you even think about this shit before you post it? You're defending yourself when you have no chance of getting lynched. It's a scum tell. Scum know they are guilty.
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On December 24 2012 07:10 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 07:06 yamato77 wrote:On December 24 2012 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 24 2012 06:11 yamato77 wrote: Also your argument is basically you look like you are bad because everyone else is bad. You sound like me in my newbie game and I got rightly told how wrong I was for that when I did it.
So quit it. If you're actually town you need to prove it so I don't have to consider you as a potential scum. Instead you give a bullshit excuse for your play so far. If we are so bad and you are so good you should be able to nail the scum team. So do it. I don't have to prove anything, given that there is no reason at all to call me scum. No one has made a case that makes any sense at all. The entire case is that "your play looks bad" which is subjective and it's not even correct. Besides, even if I am playing badly, playing badly is not ever alignment indicative. That's why it's so fucking hard to get a read on bad players, because they'll do wildly unexpected things as either alignment. I haven't done anything wildly unexpected as far as I can tell. It's just extremely frustrating when I am repeatedly asked to explain things that I have already explained multiple times. My biggest annoyance in mafia games is when people don't do the most basic of things: READING THE THREAD. My case on you being scum is that you opposed the wiggles lynch, which I pointed out at the time as a suspicious move. Then early day 2 you oppose the debears lynch because of some WIFOM about the NK and shit which I thought was incredibly dumb at the time. Sciberbia did a good job pointing out what you said as not strong. Then you change your read on debears right before he makes his claim plays based on a list reads post and more WIFOM about the NK on Toad. I don't have any reason to believe your role block claim. More WIFOM from you. You have literally done nothing for me to think you're town. You thinking so is just posturing. You're not a bad player by your own admittance so why act this way in the middle of the game? You're just trying to defend yourself with this shit. Shut up and find scum or you get lynched. when was the last time you saw a scum oppose a lynch on another scum, that was virtually unopposed otherwise? Also I never admitted shit about my own skill level. I play mafia to get better at the game, and I've had some pretty bad games myself. Your mentality is such that everyone is so bad and there for you can't play well so you are putting yourself on a pedestal above us.
"Virtually unopposed otherwise" is not the same as actually unopposed. You opposed it. Debears opposed it. Just because no one else did doesn't mean either of you are somehow town by this logic. You've said more than once that it was an unopposed lynch which is a lie.
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Also WHY WOULDN'T mafia try to oppose the godfather lynch? Makes no sense.
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Well bugs, I feel bad for you.
Welcome to my whole game. Dese people are either blindly not thinking or scum.
Wooooo wooooo TUNNEL TRAIN YEAHHHHHHH
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On December 24 2012 07:16 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 07:11 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 24 2012 07:07 yamato77 wrote:On December 24 2012 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 24 2012 06:55 yamato77 wrote: I mean, you do realize that you're a potential lynch candidate right? So if you are town don't you want to prove it instead of letting us think about lynching you?
Or are you just not reading the thread? I am completely fine with getting lynched because it will probably teach a lesson to you all in how to not suck at this game. That post is was @Stutters but thanks for replying as to your mentality at the moment. Debears has 11 votes on him and you feel guilty enough to post all this defensive shit. nice logic. I'm defending myself, therefore I'm scum. Do you even think about this shit before you post it? You're defending yourself when you have no chance of getting lynched. It's a scum tell. Scum know they are guilty.
Lol Yamato. This lynch is over. Any discussion right now is about the next lynch.
You really need to take a break and rethink this whole game
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I hope yours wasn't a fakeclaim. That could explain the missing second kill.
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Vivax what do you think about bugs being scum?
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On December 24 2012 07:14 yamato77 wrote: Also I'm not impressed with you pushing lynches on lurkers. Scum would have to do this at the moment because of the same logic you posted about. There are a bunch of people who are basically confirmed town if we take their claims at face value.
But then later on you make your big complaint post with some shit about how good scum players could make these fake claims? Nice job trying to throw doubt on the town's consensus. I think you realized that you are firmly in the circle of players we are going to lynch into and felt the need to either push the lurkers or throw doubt on the town's circle. So you did both. Just like debears. Just like Promethelax.
you're not impressed with me pushing lynches on lurkers, because everyone else looks town.
Great logic again. Man, you keep hitting these out of the park! I can't understand how to become such a good player like you! I should probably study your play to understand such a great mind.
Now, one thing I don't quite understand: the mafia lost their godfather on day 1. Wouldn't that suggest that the mafia are mostly pretty weak, and therefore the remaining ones are probably lurkers? See, I think only a great one like you could possibly explain to me why I am having this conundrum, since I certainly am too incompetent to understand why.
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On December 24 2012 07:46 Vivax wrote: I hope yours wasn't a fakeclaim. That could explain the missing second kill.
You don't even know who i nked night 1 idiot. I lied to you guys as leverage.
You guys still won't keep me alive. I gave scum the game because of town's incompetence.
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On December 24 2012 07:52 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 07:14 yamato77 wrote: Also I'm not impressed with you pushing lynches on lurkers. Scum would have to do this at the moment because of the same logic you posted about. There are a bunch of people who are basically confirmed town if we take their claims at face value.
But then later on you make your big complaint post with some shit about how good scum players could make these fake claims? Nice job trying to throw doubt on the town's consensus. I think you realized that you are firmly in the circle of players we are going to lynch into and felt the need to either push the lurkers or throw doubt on the town's circle. So you did both. Just like debears. Just like Promethelax. you're not impressed with me pushing lynches on lurkers, because everyone else looks town. Great logic again. Man, you keep hitting these out of the park! I can't understand how to become such a good player like you! I should probably study your play to understand such a great mind. Now, one thing I don't quite understand: the mafia lost their godfather on day 1. Wouldn't that suggest that the mafia are mostly pretty weak, and therefore the remaining ones are probably lurkers? See, I think only a great one like you could possibly explain to me why I am having this conundrum, since I certainly am too incompetent to understand why. The problem I have is that I have no good reason to believe that stutters or eywa is scum. Yes that is in part because they don't post but also due to the fact that what they have posted doesn't really seem all that scummy.
So that leaves me with you, promethelax, and debears. You seemed to want to ignore promethelax, then you wanted to look him over, and now you don't think he's scum because he's active? Not good enough. I think he's scum, and I've given many reasons why and no one has argued those points at all. Debears is outed as either scum or SK, either way anti-town. You are the last player I need to look at and your posting is shit. I would lynch either of you or Promethelax tomorrow over either of the lurkers.
Oh, and Vivax. I think he's town. He's been wrong and weird about it but in a townie way.
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On December 24 2012 07:50 yamato77 wrote: Vivax what do you think about bugs being scum?
I've been trying to make a read for the last 10 minutes. But I'm pretty fucking null. Him ranting so much and posting so cryptically might be bad for town, he agreed on scum Wiggles with Palmar but I didn't find the vote in his filter. He switched from debears town to debears scum shortly before debears claimed vig. He wanted to kill Morbidius during and after the night, but so did I.
I will estimate his interactions with debears and the roleblock after the flip. I also never played against a scum bugs, if you could link me some of his games as mafia I will include meta in my estimation.
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On December 24 2012 08:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 07:50 yamato77 wrote: Vivax what do you think about bugs being scum? I've been trying to make a read for the last 10 minutes. But I'm pretty fucking null. Him ranting so much and posting so cryptically might be bad for town, he agreed on scum Wiggles with Palmar but I didn't find the vote in his filter. He switched from debears town to debears scum shortly before debears claimed vig. He wanted to kill Morbidius during and after the night, but so did I. I will estimate his interactions with debears and the roleblock after the flip. I also never played against a scum bugs, if you could link me some of his games as mafia I will include meta in my estimation. This is my fourth game, first with bugs. I have no meta to go off of, just his posts.
How about the rest of town? Do you guys have any thoughts right now? I'm tired of arguing against scum.
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Well, regarding the lurkers (Eywa and stutters) I'm with Bugs. Lurking players need to be shown that they can't just do what the hell they want, and if that involves voting for them to get them to post, then they probably deserve to be lynched if they don't. Policy lynches are better than their reputation I believe. One will always regret being in late game with lurkers.
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On December 24 2012 08:30 Vivax wrote: Well, regarding the lurkers (Eywa and stutters) I'm with Bugs. Lurking players need to be shown that they can't just do what the hell they want, and if that involves voting for them to get them to post, then they probably deserve to be lynched if they don't. Policy lynches are better than their reputation I believe. One will always regret being in late game with lurkers.
I don't disagree but I highly doubt all the scum left in this game would just lurk until we decide to lynch them. I do think scum at this point would push for lurker lynches though because they are easy to justify and give town zero information.
I would much rather lynch bugs/prome tomorrow so we can see if they are just full of shit townies or scum pushing mislynches on easy targets. If it turns out they are town or we change our minds before then, we can then lynch into the lurkers for the last scum.
But I'm pretty sure a scum exists between prome/bugs and right now I lean bugs. Prome at least posted a case on bugs.
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All bugs has dine this game is call everyone bad and oppose lynches on people who are confirmed anti town now. He's not that bad. Now he's defending himself for being bad by still calling us all bad. I don't buy it.
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That's just Bugs. He fell into a bag of coke as child.
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On December 24 2012 08:38 Vivax wrote: That's just Bugs. He fell into a bag of coke as child. Well fuck him then. What is the point of calling town bad after day 1 godfather lynch? He's playing on scummy motives at this point. I don't want him around even if he is town.
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