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Parallel World Mafia: Chaos of GreY

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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 11 2012 14:08 GMT
#57
On December 11 2012 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 20:50 syllogism wrote:
Do you realize that you actually have to read the OP in this game, Palmar?


I always read the OP


you also play invested scum
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 01:03 GMT
#113
how the fuck is clarity in both worlds o.o
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#118
Hi Kenpachi! A man with many powers indeed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#121
On December 12 2012 10:17 Foolishness wrote:
I don't even think it's worthwhile to bother with the swapping. Knowing Greymist there's probably random swaps every night whether we want them or not. We have to lynch someone, we figure out who. Other world should be figuring out who they want to lynch tomorrow.

Anyways I'm voting for marvellosity cause he's mafia.

##Vote: marvellosity


Did we roll mafia again, dear?

You did this exact thing in Bureaucracy and you were scummy as shit there, too.

##Vote: Foolishness
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 01:29 GMT
#127
On December 12 2012 10:24 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 10:21 Keirathi wrote:
On December 12 2012 10:17 Foolishness wrote:
I don't even think it's worthwhile to bother with the swapping. Knowing Greymist there's probably random swaps every night whether we want them or not. We have to lynch someone, we figure out who. Other world should be figuring out who they want to lynch tomorrow.

Anyways I'm voting for marvellosity cause he's mafia.

##Vote: marvellosity

Already not even reading the thread? :o

I have and I found a mafia. Look for yourself.


cool story bro. similar amounts of reasoning given too. that'd be none for the reader wondering

On July 17 2012 05:22 Foolishness wrote:
Everyone should ignore Mattchew. He's so far off topic that I'm even going to do this Ace style:

Ignore List:
Mattchew
Chezinu - does anyone honestly ever read his posts?

Syllogism is mafia. Non-committal stances, doesn't even want to defend himself. Someone needs to redirect that nuke at marvellosity. And the next time Kurumi uses the phrase "actively lurking" someone should shoot him.

And before someone asks, Palmar is town. Mafia never propose stupid things like random lynches day 1.

##Vote: syllogism


On July 17 2012 06:39 Foolishness wrote:

Day 1 nuke is a Kurumi-esque thing to do, but I've said that before about him when he's mafia. I want the nuke redirected at marvellosity because he's mafia.



On July 22 2012 09:12 Protactinium wrote:

Foolishness the CEO was stabbed to death with a broken coffee mug.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 01:31 GMT
#130
what does calling me mafia for absolutely no reason in two games and you flipping mafia in one have to do anything?

let me think

oh yeah

you rolled scum again
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 01:34 GMT
#132
My thoughts entirely. Mafia to kill. It's you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 13:26 GMT
#168
##Worship: slOosh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 14:18 GMT
#170
your guess is as good as mine
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 14:54 GMT
#172
who knows. marv and Palmar, what more do people want?

oh yeah, there's a vote thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 16:00 GMT
#178
On December 13 2012 00:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeahhh!

##Vote Foolishness


why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 16:06 GMT
#182
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


who'd you rather kill right now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 22:48 GMT
#203
On December 13 2012 07:36 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:40 Palmar wrote:
I'm all for this discussion thing Foolishness. Let's start with you explaining in detail why you think marv is scum.

He hasn't made a post longer than 30 words (most of them are just one liners full of nothing). He's not contributed anything of substance, all he has done is start a silly counter vote on me, backed by horrible reasoning. He says my vote is exactly the same as bureaucratic mafia, but it's not anywhere close. In bureaucracy, I just said he should die, I didn't give reasoning, and I don't even think I ever voted for him, I just made the comments in passing and never really elaborated on them. Poor comparison to try to get something going (though the amount of people jumping on it is great for the town).

What's most sketchy about his accusations against me is that they seem so out of the blue. He was really quick to jump up and point the finger back, so quick that it was made out of panic (oh shit he's onto me...quick! accuse him back to divert the attention!).


Hi there. I'd made 2 small posts at the beginning of the thread when you called me scum

Now you're a pretty clever boy and you know that's not alignment indicative. I start every game ever in the universe like this.

And no, you're stupid accusation didn't panic me. You lost your aura back in Bureaucracy when you were so trivial to catch as scum.

How could I divert the attention when there was nothing to divert it from? Oh look, marv asked why Clarity was in both worlds and said hi, he must be scum! Give me a break.

My accusation of you (shallow as it may seem) had more depth and interest than your accusation of me.

If you're genuinely town then you should know the posts I made at the beginning of the game are in no way alignment indicative, so I can only presume what you were doing was some sort of play to get people talking? Whatever it was, it was bad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 22:49 GMT
#204
On December 13 2012 07:06 randombum wrote:
I dunno I just wanted to get a vote down and I made up something about the last person when i checked the thread. I suppose I could vote for myself, but that's no fun.


you don't really understand how to play mafia, do you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 22:58 GMT
#206
Alright. I know at least one moron to avoid so far. Anyone else?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 12 2012 23:20 GMT
#209
Maybe Crossfire's scum. He seems awful careful. Randomarseface is probably too derpy to be scum
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#215
@Risen

you perpetually make me weep.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:18 GMT
#219
On December 13 2012 09:15 Foolishness wrote:
And I made all of 3 posts before you guys hopped on the train and the case against me is better?


so it's ok that I made 2 posts that were totally null and unalignment indicative, and it's not ok I called you out for your bullshit?

From what I know/have heard of your town games, you usually take a more observing role Day 1 and then bust out your awesome reads come Day 2.

Is this an unfair characterisation? If not, where does randomly calling me scum for something you should know very well isn't scummy come from?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:18 GMT
#220
On December 13 2012 09:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Marv you baited him calling you scum so hard, man.


yeah, i know right.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:37 GMT
#225
On December 13 2012 09:31 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 09:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah, kinda. You did something extreme, he didn't. You have yet to actually do anything other than that, though.

I did something extreme? He called me out on a bunch of bullshit cause he's a little butthurt


Don't flatter yourself, seriously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:42 GMT
#228
On December 13 2012 09:40 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:31 Foolishness wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah, kinda. You did something extreme, he didn't. You have yet to actually do anything other than that, though.

I did something extreme? He called me out on a bunch of bullshit cause he's a little butthurt


Don't flatter yourself, seriously.

You flatter yourself thinking you're good at this game.


where did I say that, mr snippy?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:52 GMT
#234
you don't seem to understand that what you did didn't draw attention to myself because your statement was meaningless, and my subsequent actions HAVE drawn attention to myself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:55 GMT
#236
On December 13 2012 09:54 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 09:50 Palmar wrote:
And I'm not interested in marv's later posts, I only want the analysis you did to initially conclude he's scum, so up until the point you made that decision.

He posted 2 things, I got a bad vibe. nobody was doing anything productive. I wanted to get the ball rolling. You were conveniently gone. Wanted to save accusation of crossfire for later.


so given I lobbed out a possible scumread on Crossfire, what is your opinion on me currently?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 00:57 GMT
#238
On December 13 2012 09:56 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 09:55 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:54 Foolishness wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:50 Palmar wrote:
And I'm not interested in marv's later posts, I only want the analysis you did to initially conclude he's scum, so up until the point you made that decision.

He posted 2 things, I got a bad vibe. nobody was doing anything productive. I wanted to get the ball rolling. You were conveniently gone. Wanted to save accusation of crossfire for later.


so given I lobbed out a possible scumread on Crossfire, what is your opinion on me currently?

Are you a player who will draw attention to their own mafia team?


I'll play in any fashion I deem pragmatic as scum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#293
Foolishness never made that 'long' post he promised us did he?

Clarity, you've been a very naughty boy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 14:02 GMT
#294
@Blazing,

Remember there'd only be one scum to resist a Foolishness lynch if he was actually scum. Crossfire just as an example.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 14:18 GMT
#295
@Mementoss,

No not particularly solid at all. Time seems to have gotten away... I don't really wanna lynch into slOosh/randombum, Kenpachi/Palmar are ???, Dieno is Dieno and I've not read how austin's played in your game yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 14:26 GMT
#296
@Mementoss/other world

Thoughts on austin?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 16:26 GMT
#310
On December 14 2012 01:02 slOosh wrote:
marv, what does "Dieno is Dieno" mean?

##Vote (GreY): Crossfire99


He played in Chrono and he was cute and cuddly Dieno with his diagrams and generally just fluffing about.

Work's been pretty hectic for me this week, I'll put in effort later to get proper reads, anything I say right now is just feel
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:04 GMT
#385
Guys I'm here. Panicking due to lack of time, questions welcome, gogo. Need to read the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:07 GMT
#388
On December 14 2012 07:05 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
Guys I'm here. Panicking due to lack of time, questions welcome, gogo. Need to read the thread.

You. Alignment? (Don't lie)

Thoughts on:

randombum
dienosore
rugby as an olympic sport
kenpachi


You missed me objecting to a statement and telling everyone that Palmar, slOosh, and Crossfire99 are NOT "anti-town elements." So they're good to go for now, and they're worth listening to, although we haven't had a lot of time since then. Otherwise, there have been no big "AHA!" moments.


I just got to this. Why the fuck didn't you include me?

This makes me quite suspicious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:09 GMT
#393
I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks of me, what gets me is that *austin* didn't include me as a check.

austin is well known for having complete paranoia about my play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:10 GMT
#394
On December 14 2012 07:09 slOosh wrote:
I figured I had two votes because of marv's ##worship early game, which is why I was leaning away from him. Pending results refers to a vote update, but now since marv is here I guess he can confirm / deny.


why do you figure that?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:12 GMT
#395
slOosh, why are you voting for yourself?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:16 GMT
#402
who do you want to lynch?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:16 GMT
#403
that was @ slOosh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:17 GMT
#407
austin, go screw yourself, you don't tell me what to do, nor do I trust you further than I could throw you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:19 GMT
#408
As far as I'm concerned, lynching randombum is stupid, lynching Dino is a coinflip and Kenpachi is a policy lynch.

The fact I totally distrust your checks also leaves the other options open as well, but probably that's not a goer for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:24 GMT
#409
@kei, I've played with him before now so he isn't just a total newb, plus I'm lazy.

He seems to have typed a few longer paragraphs this time is all I got
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:25 GMT
#411
then don't say you're lynching people for giggles then. problem solved.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:29 GMT
#414
On December 14 2012 07:27 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv, if no one was off the table, who would you want to lynch?


Well, you seem kinda interested so maybe you're town this game. sloosh for right now I think is town, Palmar is null.

So really it's between austin and kenpachi. I'm fine with a policy lynch at this point and I don't trust austin for his checks at all. I don't know if now it's just ME being paranoid, but his explanation that he'd have to check me by myself seems such a copout.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:31 GMT
#416
who cares if it's dumb, don't make yourself a policy lynch with the way you play is the answer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:33 GMT
#418
On December 14 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 07:27 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv, if no one was off the table, who would you want to lynch?


Well, you seem kinda interested so maybe you're town this game. sloosh for right now I think is town, Palmar is null.

So really it's between austin and kenpachi. I'm fine with a policy lynch at this point and I don't trust austin for his checks at all. I don't know if now it's just ME being paranoid, but his explanation that he'd have to check me by myself seems such a copout.


Although I am monumentally displeased sloosh isn't here right now having just been here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:35 GMT
#423
On December 14 2012 07:33 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2012 07:27 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv, if no one was off the table, who would you want to lynch?


Well, you seem kinda interested so maybe you're town this game. sloosh for right now I think is town, Palmar is null.

So really it's between austin and kenpachi. I'm fine with a policy lynch at this point and I don't trust austin for his checks at all. I don't know if now it's just ME being paranoid, but his explanation that he'd have to check me by myself seems such a copout.

Pshaw. Look at the rest of my play this game. Or we can discuss my checks after this lynch/you can try to get me lynched/whatever. But you'll notice that the people who were around don't seem to be finding me scummy. At the very least, drop me for this cycle.

Besides, you know I'll check you by yourself later


what about the rest of your play. you just indulge in setup speculation which can be done by anyone

you poke and prod randombum when it should be clear he's a bad lynch right now

you excuse foolishness for his scumminess by going "um, he's townie because he never gave a satisfactory response on his scumminess"

your play is pointless and doesn't have to be townie in any way whatsoever.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:35 GMT
#424
On December 14 2012 07:33 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv, did you see Keir's question for you in other world?


answered it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:36 GMT
#425
Your Foolishness explanation was on a par with your risk.nuke explanation in Chrono trigger where you went

"um, risk is probably town because he's lurked so heavily since he was active early game, means he's probably town bros"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:38 GMT
#426
##Vote: austinmcc
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 22:54 GMT
#434
why don't you just read, Mementoss
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 23:00 GMT
#437
oh, I thought deadline was now.

:/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 23:00 GMT
#438
@Kei, can you explain for me so I have a framework to look in?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#441
On December 14 2012 05:29 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 05:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
I have a really hard time seeing who to lynch. I would be most comfortable with a Dieno lynch but am I convinced he's scum? Not really. He's just playing a bit off compared to chrono but it's his second game so it could be anything.

I personally had a townread on randombum before he suddenly wanted to lynch austin, but that was a really weird moment and I can't see a motivation for any alignment for him to act that was so I'm going with it was fault logic.

But this whole world can't possibly all agree that Foolish and Keirathi were the two scum in this world? Those two are my best guess but in no way are they set in stone.
I don't think we should just no-lynch, assuming Foolish and Keirathi were the two scum.

I was less certain of Foolishness's scumminess than this thread, because ... the whole thing was just kind of weak. If he were scum, I'd expect some kind of defense because it was sitting right in front of him. Palmar wanted to know why Foolishness was doing what he was doing, and it would have been plenty easy for Foolishness to figure out the "town" answer and give that. He didn't. So I wasn't left being sure about his scumminess.


seriously, what the fuck is all of this.

Foolishness did scummy thing. He was questioned on it. He didn't or couldn't give a satisfactory answer. Therefore Foolish probably not scummy.
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December 13 2012 23:06 GMT
#443
On December 14 2012 08:03 slOosh wrote:
marv, like I said I'm here on and off.

I'm not seeing where you are getting at with austin. Are you saying that town austin is usually paranoid about you and therefore would have no doubt included you in the check? I don't see much reason for scum to come in when town has no idea what to do after their main scum lynch was taken away, and then fake claim to offer up lynching guidance the way he did it.

I'm leaning Kenpachi as a lurker / unreadable lynch.


yes, I would absolutely expect him to include me on a check. In fact you were co-host in LV when I played around with austin in Toad's mason chat, and he's never trusted me since, and we've played many games together. austin is always paranoid of my alignment

to the bold, why not?
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December 13 2012 23:07 GMT
#444
@Kei, I'll take a look right now, thanks.
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December 13 2012 23:12 GMT
#445
bleh. Dieno, what about what I said about austin do you like in particular?
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marvellosity
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December 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#448
you never said you were sure on any of them. You checked Palmar because you said he would be useful later if he were town.
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marvellosity
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December 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#449
On December 14 2012 08:17 Dienosore wrote:
We lost our top read and the town was floundering. This sounds like the perfect time for a scumball to step in and start to influence people's opinions without looking too suspicious. What better way than create some vague detective check that no one can really confirm. It also creates the opportunity to give town cred to some names of his choosing.

I didn't feel comfortable voting for Kenpachi anyway. Even less once you guys mentioned he has a history of lurking. On the chance that I'm wrong about Austin and he does flip town, then we have three pretty much confirmed townies. If we are right and Austin is scum, then hurray scumball in a great position of power is down.


This does make it exceedingly tempting, yes.
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Profile Joined January 2011
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December 13 2012 23:24 GMT
#451
it's not wishy washy, it's just downright nonsensical

Foolishness being unable to explain his scumminess DOES NOT MAKE HIM LESS LIKELY TO BE SCUM
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December 13 2012 23:27 GMT
#454
@other world

I'd quite like sandroba's input right now. I would say Foolishness but he seems totally uninterested in who we might lynch over here.

fu, clarity, srsly.
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December 13 2012 23:29 GMT
#458
austin your play is eternally illogical
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December 13 2012 23:30 GMT
#459
in austin's world, if you do something scummy, as long as you don't have to explain it you're gonna be ok
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December 13 2012 23:39 GMT
#464
austin, do you really find Dino's blatant sheep townie?
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December 13 2012 23:40 GMT
#465
Kenpachi is ninja voting Dino?
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December 13 2012 23:42 GMT
#467
Fine, austin, I'll give you a pass right now. kenpachi can have my vote for voting Dieno without an explanation.

##Unvote
##Vote: kenpachi
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December 13 2012 23:44 GMT
#471
On December 14 2012 08:43 slOosh wrote:
Marv the extra vote doesn't come from you?

##Unvote
##Vote: kenpachi


I presume it does. I don't know what ##worship does, but it giving you an extra vote would make sense.
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December 14 2012 03:29 GMT
#501
the problem with the marv-scum theory is that foolishness is totes scum and i bussed him with like my 3rd post.

yes, my superawesome towncase on myself is based on someone who hasn't flipped.

Take that, bitches.
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December 14 2012 14:08 GMT
#506
*whistles*

##Interdimensional Rift

*coughs*
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December 14 2012 15:27 GMT
#510
On December 15 2012 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
What...... have you done??


it'll be fine, trust me.
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marvellosity
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December 14 2012 15:36 GMT
#512
well, what do you think it is?
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December 14 2012 15:39 GMT
#513
@Darkfire: I aim to please, sir
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December 14 2012 15:43 GMT
#515
On December 15 2012 00:39 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 00:36 marvellosity wrote:
well, what do you think it is?

The sad thing is that I'll play that game.

A one-way swap, possibly at random.

A lot of normal-y actions don't need to be popped in thread, so...either just you dicking around or something large, like a swap. All the other swap mechanics (bar Palmar) have been typed in thread.



It's a genuine mechanic.

I am not aware, however, of the precise details of how it functions.

Nor am I aware, in fact, of even the broadest general idea of how it functions.
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December 14 2012 15:46 GMT
#517
hey, less of the man. um, crazy.
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December 14 2012 16:14 GMT
#519
You could say I objected to it.

*sunglasses*
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December 14 2012 16:17 GMT
#521
Oh, the only information I really have is that (I think) whatever it did will happen at daypost.
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December 14 2012 16:23 GMT
#523
On December 15 2012 01:21 slOosh wrote:
Hey marv could I have your updated read on austin? Still think it's bs or starting to see my way?


I did think about it a little more, and I'm not sure I completely accept what you said. The fact there was no reason for austin to do what he did as scum isn't a reason not to. austin loves 'plays'. What good did austin's power do? We ended up policy lynching kenpachi.
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marvellosity
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December 14 2012 16:25 GMT
#524
Really I mostly agree with Dieno (whether he's scum or not). A policy lynch on austin on the chances he's scum and for confirming 3 townies would have been a good play.
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December 14 2012 16:50 GMT
#529
On December 15 2012 01:47 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 01:23 marvellosity wrote:
On December 15 2012 01:21 slOosh wrote:
Hey marv could I have your updated read on austin? Still think it's bs or starting to see my way?


I did think about it a little more, and I'm not sure I completely accept what you said. The fact there was no reason for austin to do what he did as scum isn't a reason not to. austin loves 'plays'. What good did austin's power do? We ended up policy lynching kenpachi.

You say that as if it was solely his fault that Kenpachi was lynched. Motivations are separate from results, and I don't think his motivations are scum driven. He carves out three people who cannot be lynched before him, which limits scum mislynch options and also drives lynch focus on himself if any of these three players look suspect. Plus there is the "let's just lynch him to confirm 3 people". All these things greatly diminish scum's ability to play, and the only upside to this whole thing is maybe "town credit" but that's like bussing your teammate before anyone starts suspecting them gives "town credit". The only way his play makes sense is if crossfire99 is scum, since the lynch was wavering and could have snowballed onto him, but I'm finding that austin's consistency / explanations outweigh that.


It's easy to pick out townies when you're scum.

I was the only one who came into the thread from either world raging about his checks, so from a perspective it was a well-calculated play APART from marv.

Plus we DIDN'T lynch him just to confirm 3 people, like we should have. Ugh. Simplest solution is that he's town. I'm just unhappy about how it all went down but I can't prove anything so I don't know that i can actually pursue it.
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December 15 2012 00:09 GMT
#590
I wonder if that was me :x
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December 15 2012 00:15 GMT
#592
that's because you knew what you were doing.
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December 15 2012 00:16 GMT
#593
anyway, I think we should swap GLaDOS today.

##Vote: GLaDOS
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marvellosity
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December 15 2012 00:18 GMT
#595
That may or may not be some other random power I'm inflicting you all with.

Sorry :/
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marvellosity
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December 15 2012 00:21 GMT
#597
my hands are tied, qtpie
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December 15 2012 00:25 GMT
#598
hmm, now I think about it, Palmar and Foolishness swapping makes more sense for ##interdimensional rift.
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marvellosity
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December 15 2012 19:12 GMT
#605
I would've killed sandroba based on the play I've seen across both worlds
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December 15 2012 19:40 GMT
#606
@yamato, depends if we can swap foolishness back

if not, i'll try to make some time for filtering later
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December 15 2012 22:02 GMT
#608
you coloured Palmar in red, but austin's power confirmed him according to how you view things.
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December 15 2012 23:02 GMT
#612
@Keirathi, what do you make of Foolishness' reads?
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December 15 2012 23:08 GMT
#614
I have no particular opinion right now, and I'm not sure what to make of Foolishness' reads. They seem 'easy', although easy doesn't have to mean untrue. I know my alignment and I still think randombum is town. From what I know of yamato's play, he's a paranoid ranty towny anyway, while Risen I know least about
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December 15 2012 23:09 GMT
#615
oh, and Palmar I have no idea. I vaguely guess town in unconvincing fashion
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December 15 2012 23:16 GMT
#617
Effort is irrelevant if you can't see and understand the reads.

Palmar seems uninterested but he's not *pretending* to be interested.
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December 15 2012 23:19 GMT
#618
@Blazing, stop it you pooface. Keirathi is actively trying to figure out stuff and just because he disagrees with you you shut him down in a totally needless aggressive fashion. If you're town think about that and stop it now.
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marvellosity
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December 15 2012 23:20 GMT
#619
@Kei - I meant I've followed/noticed his posting least this game.

I have just had his filter open right now, though. I'm kinda ok with the sandroba suspicion-pushing thing, because that's the kinda thing Risen would probably do as either alignment.

I don't like how he's (not) pushing mementoss, though.
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December 15 2012 23:35 GMT
#620
At Risen's "ken looked very townie"?

yeah ok I could see risen hang.
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December 15 2012 23:38 GMT
#622
that's just retarded though.

ken looking very townie was simply a flat out lie

LAL
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December 15 2012 23:39 GMT
#626
I'd prefer to lynch Foolishness, I don't mind Risen over here at all though. I'd like that.
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December 15 2012 23:40 GMT
#627
just to note, confirmed town sandroba thought randombum was the worst lynch in the game on Day 1.
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December 15 2012 23:43 GMT
#629
@Kei, at the time I just put it down to Risen being a knob.

However, now berating town with what you posted in addition to the clear fallacy of kenpachi looking very townie is enough to bring it back up.

Honestly love I don't care if you're suspicious of me as mafia (this seems to be the case from your tone), but read what I say instead. The points I make stand for themselves
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December 15 2012 23:51 GMT
#637
On December 16 2012 08:51 randombum wrote:
I dunno if I should respond in length to tear apart foolishness's read on me or just call him wrong.


humour me and respond at length.
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December 16 2012 00:37 GMT
#651
On December 16 2012 08:59 Risen wrote:
Well it seems I'm forced to claim. Crossfire is my homie, but we can never be in the same world together


what does this mean exactly, dear?
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December 16 2012 23:08 GMT
#695
oh shit.
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December 16 2012 23:10 GMT
#698
hi, where's the playerlist for this world right now?

please save shouting at me for having no idea what's going on until another time
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December 16 2012 23:13 GMT
#700
Oh wait, we're swapping, aren't we? tell me what's going on austin, what do i need to be looking at and why
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December 16 2012 23:15 GMT
#704
fine, I'll vote you. For the other world:

Dienosore, Mementoss, Foolishness
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December 16 2012 23:20 GMT
#709
austin, you have my attention until I have to go washing up.

Do you wish to discuss anything with me?
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December 16 2012 23:30 GMT
#714
Pretty sure the only thing I *have* mentioned in the last 48 hours is my thoughts about that Foolishness post. Come now dear ^_^

RL is horrendously busy atm, but don't not-lynch me or whatever because of that.

My colouring of Foolish in red up there should indicate how I'm currently feeling about his last large post. I did talk briefly about the reads within somewhere as well.
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December 16 2012 23:46 GMT
#718
I swear I'd posted a reply, but apparently not.

Basically I'm not convinced by any of it

And I think Mementoss is scum, he's one of the only people I filtered earlier and I don't see the town. I also noticed sandroba calling him scum.

Foolishness basically brushes off a mementoss read in his post, completely.
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December 17 2012 13:14 GMT
#738
Let's see.

##Activate Alternate Wincon

I know, I know. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
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December 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#739
@Palmar,

you know I'm not scum though, sweetie.
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December 17 2012 15:14 GMT
#741
@Palmar,

Foolish is my lynch <3

It's kinda tempting just to claim actually
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December 17 2012 15:30 GMT
#742
Because it would make this game easier to play for me

I don't care about your read on me in the slightest
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December 18 2012 00:28 GMT
#749
On December 18 2012 09:22 Risen wrote:
Took .5kp. Thank you whatever medic healed me last night since a red check with my ability does 1kp to myself. This confirms marv scum, as I targeted him last night.

##vote: marvellosity

It's not my fault I got the same role power again marv


I'm 3p survivor and this is blatantly obvious from my play

go away child
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December 18 2012 00:30 GMT
#751
Risen didn't even crumb this one, we should probably kill him
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December 18 2012 00:42 GMT
#756
i'm still not scum, and masonry doesn't mean you're confirmed town

i can't really be arsed to fight this lynch just because it's stupid, but pretty much anyone who's played with me knows i don't play like this as scum or town

if crossfire confirms that you did this then i'm fine that you're not scum, Risen

still don't make me scum
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December 18 2012 00:48 GMT
#758
it'd have to be one of you two i guess

clarity can't be scum because of mechanics?
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December 18 2012 00:54 GMT
#759
no keirathi, go away

i don't know which would be scum, and i'm busy right now
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December 18 2012 01:08 GMT
#762
##Guarantee: slOosh
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December 18 2012 01:31 GMT
#764
who did you shoot over there then?
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December 18 2012 02:29 GMT
#783
such a little star, @yamato

can you check with the hosts whether your roleblock notifies, please

if not, Risen isn't necessarily lying
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December 18 2012 02:32 GMT
#785
eh, good point Risen. My poor little head.
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December 18 2012 02:35 GMT
#786
@yamato, why does your role deal KP to someone who you're supposedly protecting from KP then?
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December 18 2012 02:40 GMT
#789
this is silly, if Risen got roleblocked and he lied about it, he'd know that whoever roleblocked him would call him out as a liar :/
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December 18 2012 02:42 GMT
#791
who cares if you're attached to him, that really means nothing unless he's confirmed town to you via role PM.
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December 18 2012 02:44 GMT
#792
@kei, glad i'm not the only one
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December 18 2012 02:46 GMT
#794
you know that you're confirmed town to him?
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December 18 2012 02:50 GMT
#796
so to repeat, your role PMs confirm you to each other?
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December 18 2012 02:51 GMT
#798
i guess we wait for crossfire to confirm risen's story
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December 18 2012 02:51 GMT
#799
it could yet be that neither are lying.
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December 18 2012 02:53 GMT
#801
it makes no sense to out himself, use your head
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December 18 2012 02:54 GMT
#804
i don't understand the motivation at all, that once you are outed as masons, you wouldn't want to confirm yourselves to the rest of town

scum already know your alignment, so the only people you're fooling are town. why??

@kei

On December 16 2012 10:05 Risen wrote:
My PM does everything but say he's town. If he's scum I'll be more surprised than I've ever been in a mafia game.
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December 18 2012 02:55 GMT
#805
or outed as connected, you get my drift
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December 18 2012 02:56 GMT
#807
@Kei, when did Risen claim to do that damage?

He said he took 0.5kp and thought he'd take 1 kp from me
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December 18 2012 02:57 GMT
#808
Risen - was your ability on scum, anti-town, or just non-town?
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December 18 2012 02:59 GMT
#811
answer my question already
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December 18 2012 03:01 GMT
#813
answer my fucking question
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December 18 2012 03:02 GMT
#814
fuck me, you're here and i asked it like 7 minutes ago and you've been making responses, this shouldn't be hard
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December 18 2012 03:04 GMT
#816
then something still doesn't make sense.

the whole situation only ties together if the power you used was directed against anti-town or scum
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December 18 2012 03:05 GMT
#818
what i thought had happened, if people were telling the truth:

Risen has an anti-town or anti-scum ability he uses on me
Risen was protected from roleblocks by Crossfire
yamato jailed/dealt 0.5kp to Risen
Crossfire prevented the jail

So Risen took 0.5kp from yamato and was not jailed

this falls down because if the wording of his role was "not-town" he should have taken KP from me.
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December 18 2012 03:07 GMT
#819
Risen - was Crossfire's ability a redirect?
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December 18 2012 03:08 GMT
#822
i actually got roleblocked last night

this is why i ask
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December 18 2012 03:09 GMT
#823
actually yamato's explanation does make sense
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December 18 2012 03:10 GMT
#825
randombum: it's not crazy, if you take into account that apparently Crossfire has some weird-ass ability that happens to prevent roleblocks

that's actually the weird thing, not yamato's explanation.
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December 18 2012 03:11 GMT
#826
In fact, yamato's explanation fitted events before he knew about Crossfire's ability
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December 18 2012 03:14 GMT
#829
in general terms, and unless i've missed Clarity saying stuff (quite possible) it doesn't make much sense for Clarity to be 3rd party, unless it's a 3rd party that's benign to town

Being part of 2 worlds is like having a massive target or question mark over your head immediately, which would seem a quite unfair way of designing things in the first place
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December 18 2012 03:16 GMT
#832
@Keirathi - ok, weird to me ^^

then again i'm using powers every cycle that i have no idea what they do, so i don't know why it's weird.

whatevs :d
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December 18 2012 03:17 GMT
#833
For what it's worth, I have a vested interest in killing scum right now, if town loses the game too quickly then I lose too.
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December 18 2012 03:19 GMT
#835
On December 18 2012 12:18 Risen wrote:
Btw I was roleblocked and took .5kp last night. Final answer.


Risen, you're such a douche.
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December 18 2012 03:21 GMT
#838
dunno @ Kei, I'm hoping the problem will solve itself by Foolish or mementoss being brought over here before i have to think about it
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 03:22 GMT
#841
I don't want to play a game with Risen ever again

it's 3 am and I've just taken half an hour late at night trying to work out something really quite complicated

and Risen goes "lol just kidding"

seriously, dick move.
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December 18 2012 03:26 GMT
#843
no thanks kei.
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December 18 2012 03:35 GMT
#847
Risen all you did was confirm that someone you and Crossfire thought was definitely town wasn't in fact lying.

so frustrating
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 04:08 GMT
#850
@Keirathi,

let's not be misrepresenting what I've done.

Now, I'm not saying I've been a shining beacon of helpfulness, but I've pushed Foolish as scum all game, I've been on mementoss for at least a cycle, and I coloured Dieno in red once, yet I've been 'pushing Dieno' compared to these games. Policy lynching ken isn't 'pushing' ken either.

Stop it. THAT is scummy.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 13:08 GMT
#862
On December 18 2012 14:31 randombum wrote:
Also, marv still could be a mafia, but either way I think he's anti town now.

After the dieno mis lynch:

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
Let's see.

##Activate Alternate Wincon

I know, I know. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.


Pretty much seems like he was like "nope, town ain't winning this"


You and yamato are both very silly. I'm pretty clearly exactly what I claim to be.

Don't create a narrative to suit your thoughts. That's not "what I was like" at all. I have a whole bunch of powers, that I must use once each day and night, and I win when I've used all my powers.

The tricky bit, obviously, is that some of the powers look pretty dodgy, like that alternate wincon. I've not been notified of any change in wincon, so from my perspective I'm still firmly on town's side right now in the need to lynch scum.

Generally I have a couple of silly sounding powers, some bad sounding powers, some ??? powers, and some good sounding powers (that I've aimed at slOosh).

I don't *think* I gave slOosh the item though, i don't know how and why i would have
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December 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#864
@yamato, I don't fear you, I'm just calling you bad. Don't worry about it.
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December 18 2012 14:59 GMT
#865
Mementoss should probably stop posting because he keeps claiming scum
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December 18 2012 15:04 GMT
#866
what are you going to do, Mementoss, when Crossfire confirms what Risen has been saying?

Everything you write is unadulterated nonsense

fyi the two people i've been scum on over a long period of time are you and foolish
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December 18 2012 15:05 GMT
#867
And Mementoss, you should know I would never appear like this as scum, the fact you're suggesting otherwise makes you look so awful

I give yamato/randombum a pass on that because they don't know how i play
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December 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#868
Risen said they were confirmed to each other. If he was scum what's the point in lying about that, given Crossfire would out him immediately?

YOU are the one not paying attention to the thread

On December 17 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
I swear I'd posted a reply, but apparently not.

Basically I'm not convinced by any of it

And I think Mementoss is scum, he's one of the only people I filtered earlier and I don't see the town. I also noticed sandroba calling him scum.

Foolishness basically brushes off a mementoss read in his post, completely.
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December 18 2012 15:10 GMT
#869
I didn't ask about my normal town play, I asked about my normal scumplay

i didn't claim town so why do i want you to compare how i play as town, numbnuts?
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 15:12 GMT
#870
who said I was hardpushing you?

I just said that you'd be a scumread for a while

and you know my scumplay never looks anything like this, the more you push the idea the worse you look

so basically, carry on.
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December 18 2012 15:16 GMT
#871
Nothing to do with what *I* know, Mementoss. It's to do with what you're pushing.

If you objectively look at my play this game, you're not stupid enough to think it doesn't look like 3P and instead looks like scum.

If you're claiming otherwise, you're claiming scum. It's really easy.
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December 18 2012 15:20 GMT
#872
the difference is that you're saying shit that is blatantly untrue and when Crossfire comes back you're going to look monumentally dumb and even more scummy than you do now, if that's possible.

I'm waiting for Clarity to hopefully swap Foolish or you here so I can lynch the piss out of them.
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December 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#873
I don't particularly want to lynch anyone in my world.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 16:06 GMT
#878
If Clarity doesn't do a swap then we can lynch him.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 17:51 GMT
#893
Mementoss is blates scum. Just from today's conversation alone that's obvious

BH I'd have to look at, but let's kill Fool/Mementoss first.
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December 18 2012 17:53 GMT
#894
hey syllo, what do you think of randombum?
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December 18 2012 17:57 GMT
#895
which Kei?
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December 18 2012 18:01 GMT
#897
because I didn't want to, Kei. Also, I think you are the 2nd mafia.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 18:06 GMT
#901
i'd bet 2/3 1/3 on kei-random, and that's conservative
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December 18 2012 18:08 GMT
#902
@Kei: your complete mischaracterisation of my play yesterday

there's plenty to criticise about my play (whatever everyone ) but what you said about who i'd pushed and stuff was just ridiculous and twisted to make me look worse.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 18:18 GMT
#908
##Vote: Foolishness

Kei, to paraphrase you, I "pushed austin, pushed ken, pushed Dieno, and soft-pushed foolish"

ok. I was suspicious of austin, followed by NOT having my vote on him at deadline, I policy lynched ken for lack of better options, and put Dieno's name in red once.

Why did you mention Dieno, who I only did to, and not Mementoss, ALSO coloured in red in that post, AND I actually then said why I thought Mementoss was scum? I *clearly* pushed Mementoss as an idea more than Dieno, yet you mention Dieno and not Mementoss. Then I "soft" pushed Foolish (compared to "pushing" the rest of the names) when I've been calling Foolishness scum all game, in fact he's the person I have CONSISTENTLY pushed as scum. How is that "soft" compared to what the rest were?

Twisty twisty.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 22:15 GMT
#940
On December 19 2012 06:50 Foolishness wrote:
I claimed BH is town cause he is, just as I claimed dienosore was town and he was.

I explained what my role did and why I put it on Yamato, there was plenty good reason for me to do so.

I was right to think that there was something up with marvellosity, he pretty much claimed 3rd party. Assuming that he is 3rd party, he is still anti-town. You want to let him run around then you have only yourself to blame.


That's like saying "I thought he was scum because he was wearing a hat. Turns out he was 3rd party so my hat theory was kinda right guys!"
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 22:26 GMT
#945
On December 19 2012 07:21 syllogism wrote:
Sloosh you should probably full claim tonight. Even if your role is awesome, which I doubt, you dying makes the game easier. I don't entirely trust austin's check and I need to narrow down possible candidates for the second mafia in Grey.

Marvel you also need to full claim your abilities. I'm not quite willing to believe that you don't know what your abilities do. How does it make sense for you to even use your abilities if you don't know what they do? It only draws attention to you if you are a survivor.
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 12:17 marvellosity wrote:
For what it's worth, I have a vested interest in killing scum right now, if town loses the game too quickly then I lose too.

Also this doesn't make sense if you are a survivor with a standard survivor win con. The easiest way for you to win is by having either side win quickly.


I think that's the point, sweetie.

My wincon isn't standard as I think I've mentioned before. I have 10 abilities, one to use each day and night which is compulsory, and I win when I have used all of my abilities and survive to the next day post (start of day 6 then).

Basically means a romp either way is a bad thing for me.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 22:32 GMT
#947
I'll warn/tell you now, I have an ability or two I'm not confident won't mess with something at some stage.

In particular I have a mass teleportation command (that's it's name) which I presume will do some interesting world shuffling.
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 23:28 GMT
#952
can you not do your switchy switchy thing tomorrow syllo?
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marvellosity
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December 18 2012 23:31 GMT
#956
oh yes. forgot the whole dying thing.
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:12 GMT
#968
ez pz
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:13 GMT
#969
##Rename Keirathi
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#970
why do people keep asking me what my abilities do?
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marvellosity
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United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 20 2012 00:22 GMT
#971
@kei, because it seemed scummy, and I like finding scum
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:23 GMT
#972
@Risen, when you see my ability in-thread, immediately you know as much about the ability as I do.
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:26 GMT
#973
@Risen, you may.

#rename looked like an ability where I couldn't tell if it was good or bad. So I didn't want to use it on people I thought were definitely town or definitely scum, so I used it on Keir who I think might be scum but could still be not.
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December 20 2012 00:48 GMT
#974
@Kei, I'm pretty much totally uninterested in responding to the pressure you seem to want to put on me

Whether you like it or not I heavily expected austin to have me as a pick given our history. It was what it was.
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:49 GMT
#975
@Kei, it was irrelevant whether I was included from my point of view

I was looking at it from austin's motivations. How can't you see that?
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:56 GMT
#976
@kei, as evidenced by austin's flip and the fact i subsequently backed down from him, it was obviously a gut reaction at the time. Pretty self-centred and clearly wrong. There's not a lot more to it
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 00:57 GMT
#977
I would say pushing me on this is absolutely and totally bizarre. Given your entire angle of attack is "it doesn't make sense", it's all entirely alignment unindicative and I have no idea what you're doing.
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 01:01 GMT
#978
@kei, of all the players in the game you know my play the best, so i have no idea why you need to 'figure me out' when people who know me far less can see what's in front of them. That is suspicious in itself.
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December 20 2012 01:06 GMT
#979
@kei, as you know when i'm in my tired-of-playing scum mindset i try to appear interested and fail.

This is nothing like that. Come on, now.
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December 20 2012 01:12 GMT
#980
so what, Kei?

as scum, when have I ever been nonchalant?

i called foolish out as scum and when I got a chance to lynch him I did. *shrug*. there's very little else to it.
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 01:15 GMT
#981
@Kei, that's because a read on you was pretty much irrelevant and still is for at least another cycle or 2.

This entire line of questioning is immensely boring.

All these things you're questioning/accusing me on are entirely unindicative of me being mafia - nonchalance, needing to be asked over and over again for a read.

Stop asking me things that don't fit my scum play at all and quite clearly fit the 3rd party survivor coasting along play, it's dull.
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 01:21 GMT
#982
@kei, don't be trite, dear.
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December 20 2012 01:25 GMT
#983
@kei, no deal <3
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December 20 2012 01:27 GMT
#984
just for the pompous ass comment I hope you're not mafia. We'll see in a couple of days anyways
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 11:15 GMT
#987
On December 20 2012 19:30 syllogism wrote:
Marv what do you think your role in the other world would be


Does everyone's role change in different worlds?

I'd be somewhat worried about the alternate wincon thing I did if I switched worlds, so probably most of all I'd rather stay here.

Generally I have no idea what my role would be in the other world if it's not the same as it is here
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December 20 2012 12:15 GMT
#989
On December 20 2012 20:19 syllogism wrote:
The planar dragon had a standard town win con in the other world, so perhaps the same applies to you and swapping you there would be in town's best interests


ah. well, i have nothing that indicates that's the case with me, but if town needs to then whatever.
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marvellosity
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December 20 2012 17:15 GMT
#990
Hey yamato

how do you explain Mementoss saying Risen/Darkfire were scum from your world and totally ignoring Blazing?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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December 20 2012 23:43 GMT
#999
@Kei, I know right. Half, none, or all of that may be true.

Turns out ##rename was benign and silly.
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marvellosity
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December 21 2012 01:32 GMT
#1005
hmm. turns out i might lose this game because town is wrapping it up too quickly.

poo.

##Shuffle yamato77
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December 21 2012 01:59 GMT
#1006
Risen, don't be retarded.
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December 22 2012 01:13 GMT
#1015
Keir is from this world originally remember slOosh

anyway Mementoss is still scum.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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December 22 2012 01:50 GMT
#1016
yamato/risen, get your heads out of your asses. I've been on Mementoss for days.

And if I really wanted to sabotage town's winning chances, I wouldn't fucking announce that I thought town was winning too fast.

Engage brain please.
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marvellosity
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December 23 2012 12:28 GMT
#1021
er, no idea how I completely forgot to vote.

Sorry to the hosts and the players.

##Mass Teleportation
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Profile Joined January 2011
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December 30 2012 00:33 GMT
#1121
yes, I was extremely entertained by my role. I'm glad I discovered GreYMisT games :>
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