EPTSPECULATE ME! Marv as third party? Can't play normal town game because scum will NK him within a couple cycles most likely. But not terribly invested in scumhunting towards a wincon OR in actively dicking with things as scum.
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austinmcc
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SPECULATE ME! Marv as third party? Can't play normal town game because scum will NK him within a couple cycles most likely. But not terribly invested in scumhunting towards a wincon OR in actively dicking with things as scum. | ||
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For now, from what we've seen, it LOOKS like all swap abilities super swap, so they can be used to move people around worlds but not flip alternate roles. As of now, only the voted-for swap appears to change someone's role. | ||
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The problem with a lot of your reads are that they are summaries of what someone has done, or who has mentioned someone, but no actual read on the person. There's an end step missing where you give more full thoughts and how you arrive at a read. Your Keirathi read: So what can be gained from taking a step back and looking at Keirathi's play thus far? Well it looks rather hectic and somewhat sheepish, jumping on whoever seems to be gathering the most hate. His disgust for me is... confusing, to say the least. Heck we were even on opposite worlds when he did most of his shit talking. Does this make Keirathi a scumball? IDK, Probably not. From what I can discern, his play so far matches his towny play in CT. So where, then, does his hate spring from? I suppose it all bubbles forth from a source, and that source is the person of my second investigation... You don't know, probably not scum. Play matches towny play in chrono trigger. Then later you note again that you don't think he's scum.Your BH read: His whole base for attack against me is paltry at best. It includes meta reads on a guy with 1 game under his belt with whom he hasn't even played with, and an overly zealous critique about how I mishandled our day 1 debacle. At least Keirathi was town with me in CT and has a frame of reference to base his (however misguided) suspicions on. That being said, I do not think Blazinghand is absolutely mafia. Other than a slight distrust from Sandroba, his maps indicate a fairly town reputation with the rest of you. Personally, I'd give him 50/50 at best, but for now I think there are bigger fish to fry. His attack on you is no good, but you don't think he's absolutely mafia, 50/50 at best.Your Mementoss read: I wanted this to be longer and more incriminating, but sadly it just isn't. He only has two pages of filter, and his discussion so far feels like it comes from a fairly towny place. He also has a believable excuse for not being here right now. I couldn't find anything that explicitly screams SCUM! to me. Unless someone can make a better case, (maybe Risen will step up?) I will be changing my vote once I find a better pick. Townie (But you like Crossfire's post/vote on Mementoss...except after he makes that and you comment on liking that, you unvote Mementoss and vote BH)Your Yamato read: Overall, I'd say Yamato is an obvious newb with a temper problem. I feel like he is probably trying to help out the town, but the way he is going about it is totally fishy and counter-productive. I do not think he should be our lynch today. Newb, townie, temper problemYour BH read (where your vote is): It's clear to me that BH needs to be at the top of our scumdars. His fervor and passion about my scummyness is so extreme that I can't help but feel more sure about BH flipping scum than Mementoss. That being said, I'm going to change my vote. You don't like how hard BH is trying to lynch you. But...why does that make BH scum? You changed your vote a guy without any real reasoning as to why YOU think that HE is SCUM. This is one reason people find you scummy, and why you ARE scummy. Your giant summaries of people's posts end in town, town, town, 50/50 scum for what seems to be no reason than the 50/50 person finds you scummy. You change your vote from Mementoss, who you thought was town, but then liked Crossfire's accusatory post on, to BH, who you seem to be suspicious of solely because he's accusing you. You may have put time and energy into your reads, and that's appreciated, but...you make it sound like giving reads is town pulling your teeth. As your summaries of your reads look, you don't have a scumread on anyone for any reason other than them thinking you're scum. There's a disconnect somewhere, because you seem to be thinking about things as you present a rundown of someone's posts. Like...you note that Yamato's reads are constantly shifting, but what does that tell you? You don't draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that he's changing his mind so much, that his targets are shifting, or at least we can't see where you go from "This is what someone has done" to "This is my conclusion about that person." You just kind of summarize each person's posting and just give this summary read of yours as to whether they're town or scum, and we can't get a feel for WHY must of the time. | ||
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On December 13 2012 16:05 randombum wrote: Honestly, at the moment you for screwing things up. What did you mean by this statement to clarity? (This was from D1, when he swapped Keirathi and I) | ||
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On December 17 2012 06:17 slOosh wrote: Also, where the heck is darkfirex5 in all of this? Same place as he's been for much of the game. See paranoia about rift destabilization as a non-town role, and us just letting him slide entirely because he has to wait some unknown period of time to DT-check someone. | ||
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On December 17 2012 06:36 randombum wrote: That was more of a knee-jerk reaction. I saw foolishness getting swapped over as bad and wanted to blame the person I saw responsible. Don't make much of it. Why was it bad, and what are your current thoughts on Foolishness? | ||
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Can you explain your read on mementoss? You read him as town, then as scum based on some points that Clarity made, but then unvoted him to vote BH. WHY is mementoss scum? What has he done that was scummy, that made you think he was scum? When you looked him over, you appeared to find him townie. | ||
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You originally voted Mementoss because Risen was voting him and Risen supported you When you read Mementoss's filter, you found him townie, and wanted to swap vote You liked Clarity's points calling Mementoss scummy You unvoted Mementoss to vote BH You revote Mementoss because he's scum WHY is he scum. You've never found him scummy yourself. You're voting, and you need to be getting votes off yourself, but the only read that you, yourself, have had on Mementoss is that he was town. That's never going to get anyone to vote mementoss, AND it's clearly not making yourself look good. If you want anyone to move their votes, or you want anyone ELSE to try and move votes off of you, then at the very least can you just explain why you think Mementoss is scum? | ||
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Is dienosore's vote/read that much scummier to you than darkfire's vote/read(s?)? Mementoss, I'm not entirely sure about you. Clarity's point about your read on me is interesting, I could see scum floundering when I first objected and being worried about things, then realizing they may not actually want to kill me and confirm folks. Your reaction, that I was townie and continued to be townie, but that people should be questioning me was...hmmm, it doesn't quite match up with how I feel like I would handle being in your position if you were townie, as a person paranoid about near-everything. That said, the rest of your filter is sort of...neutral. I'd be interested in your read on Foolishness, which you were waiting for D2 action to shore up. Beyond that, I'm not going to start tunneling you here but there's a distinct lack of impact from you on the game. In the case of THIS game though, that's not so incriminating because EVERYONE is sitting back and not having an impact on the game. Because of all the noise from others, it's difficult to fault anyone for that and so it's difficult to read people in that group. | ||
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Who did you protect N1, and why? If you shouldn't be lynched today, who should, and why? Okay, you responded to some extent. But you've got to understand here that ... some of the information you think exonerates you, makes you seem townie, is information that we simply don't have. Nobody can know whether you protected foolishness or not, because you didn't say anything about who you protected N1 and why. I do want to know why you think Mementoss is scummy, and what you just said IS a reason. But it comes AFTER you voted him, unvoted, voted again, so it couldn't have been why you found Mementoss scummy before. I'm here for the rest of the cycle, on and off, and I'm more than willing to try and fight is mislynch if that's what's up, but you've got to work with the thread here. | ||
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Knock if off with the woe is me. If you don't want to get lynched, work with people. If nothing else, if you're town, get your thoughts into the thread because it's difficult to do anything with your posts currently even if you flip town. What's the single scummiest thing about mementoss to you? What's the single scummiest thing about BH to you? If possible, something other than the fact they're voting for you. What's the single scummiest thing about Foolishness? You said he dodged the noose, and that Mementoss was trying to blame his "escape" on you, but WHY is Foolishnesss scum? | ||
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I know you seem to think they're scum, but tell us why. Give us something to work with. We can use some of sandroba's reads because he explained where there were coming from. Why are those three scum? What leads you to that conclusion? Especially if it's something that other people aren't considering, aren't seeing (except the fact that they're voting for you, don't rely on that). If you've got an angle behind your reads that others don't, that's pretty helpful, and we could use it. | ||
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On December 17 2012 08:10 marvellosity wrote: hi, where's the playerlist for this world right now? please save shouting at me for having no idea what's going on until another time On page 1, except swap dienosore and crossfire to their world, risen to ours. | ||
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On December 17 2012 08:13 marvellosity wrote: Oh wait, we're swapping, aren't we? tell me what's going on austin, what do i need to be looking at and why We're swapping. Day started with mystery votes on hassybaby and dienosore. Nobody claimed. Grey says they're supposed to be there. SCANDALOUS Since then, I've volunteered to be swapped, since I've used my role. Everyone that has voted has voted for me, hassy is the only other person that has expressed a desire to go over (start faux-Yu-Gi-Oh rolling) but it looks like I'm the swap for today. That is, IF you and randombum don't afk all day and vote. Our world did not have a particularly complex vote today. | ||
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On December 17 2012 08:14 randombum wrote: Oh shit voting. Vote after deadline or just not vote? Deadline is in 46 minutes. Everyone has voted me except you and marv, who haven't voted. | ||
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