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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:12 GMT
#1741
On December 20 2012 03:11 JieXian wrote:
WIFOM


I'll give you that one, but it's true.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 19 2012 18:12 GMT
#1742
ok it's 2 am and I'm feeling really sleepy and this really sucks

will try to wake up in time for lynch

Zentor what happened to the hapa blue shot arguement.

djo you basically called it speculation, which is a euphemism for "stupid nonsense
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 19 2012 18:13 GMT
#1743
On December 20 2012 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:
holy fuck you guys spam like no other.
can you stop clogging the thread with worthless back and forths maybe? ill be back in like an hour

I didn't realise that his scumslip was worthless information.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:15 GMT
#1744
On December 20 2012 03:11 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:08 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:02 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I refer:

If I was scum I would have pushed the Thrawn lynch no matter what. Morb dies, I can flame at everyone and push his mislynch today. It's just the better choice. As town, I don't want to see a mislynch. I have to consolidate and realize that my Thrawn case had zero traction in the thread.

If you can't see that, JX, I'm sorry.


? You can't push his mislynch as scum because you started the huge case


This makes no sense. The optimal scum play is to push the Thrawn lynch. It has NO chance to actually go through. I'm not suspicious for voting Morb, I can push his mislynch today. It just works out better.


How would you know? Anything can happen and it baffled me that I got off the hook on D1 because of some apparent scumslip that morb made about lurkers != scum


Because I've played scum once before, and I know that's what I would have done. It just makes sense. I'm not worried about coming off scummy, that's why I'd rather get Morb lynched for information rather than go with a no-lynch and push Thrawn.

You realise, a no-lynch in a scenario where certain people want the lynch can also be very telling. And telling us that you'd have played differently if you were scum while having previously said that you always play this way seems a little bit like a slip.


No, it can't be telling. We have no clue of Morb's alignment then. Could be town pushing for scum lynch, town pushing for town lynch, scum pushing for mislynch, we can't put anything together without a flip.

The only thing I said I "play this way" is buddying my top town read, as town. I'm usually more vindictive about my reads, but with all of this shitflinging and IRL stuff I haven't had time.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 19 2012 18:15 GMT
#1745
Eywa, I know you're town.

I have looked at both DYH and CC, and DYH has a much better chance of flipping scum.

I'm pretty sure you know I'm town, so you can trust that I'm not scum trying to save my scum buddy.

You're not going to be able to get CC lynched today, and it would be really awful for town if we had a no lynch.

Vote for DYH.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:16 GMT
#1746
On December 20 2012 03:13 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:
holy fuck you guys spam like no other.
can you stop clogging the thread with worthless back and forths maybe? ill be back in like an hour

I didn't realise that his scumslip was worthless information.


You're really probing for stuff that isn't there.

There is no scumslip... I can't even begin to fathom where I've done a scumslip.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 19 2012 18:17 GMT
#1747
On December 20 2012 03:12 JieXian wrote:
ok it's 2 am and I'm feeling really sleepy and this really sucks

will try to wake up in time for lynch

Zentor what happened to the hapa blue shot arguement.

djo you basically called it speculation, which is a euphemism for "stupid nonsense


There are too many situations in which he wouldn't get killed for that to be a valid reason to think he's scum.

When he started getting paranoid and thinking I'm scum, I realized that he was town.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 19 2012 18:19 GMT
#1748
On December 20 2012 03:17 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:12 JieXian wrote:
ok it's 2 am and I'm feeling really sleepy and this really sucks

will try to wake up in time for lynch

Zentor what happened to the hapa blue shot arguement.

djo you basically called it speculation, which is a euphemism for "stupid nonsense


There are too many situations in which he wouldn't get killed for that to be a valid reason to think he's scum.

When he started getting paranoid and thinking I'm scum, I realized that he was town.

If you're putting DYH up as scum, that means you're also putting up drazak and Kush, it's the only possible combo of 3 I can see working out... Which I would have to deem unlikely.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 19 2012 18:20 GMT
#1749
On December 20 2012 03:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:13 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:
holy fuck you guys spam like no other.
can you stop clogging the thread with worthless back and forths maybe? ill be back in like an hour

I didn't realise that his scumslip was worthless information.


You're really probing for stuff that isn't there.

There is no scumslip... I can't even begin to fathom where I've done a scumslip.

You said if you were scum you'd have played differently, yet previously you said you always play the same... That's a pretty big slip.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 19 2012 18:20 GMT
#1750
On December 20 2012 03:12 JieXian wrote:
ok it's 2 am and I'm feeling really sleepy and this really sucks

will try to wake up in time for lynch

Zentor what happened to the hapa blue shot arguement.

djo you basically called it speculation, which is a euphemism for "stupid nonsense


No, speculation is speculation. I called it stupid before but this thread had enough flaming already.
But when speculation points toward conclusions that is really likely to be wrong (ie, Hapa is scum), it means that the assumptions you are making are wrong.

If you are seriously believing that Hapa is scum, please present me a short list of arguments supporting this theory.
Could you do that for me ?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:20 GMT
#1751
On December 20 2012 03:20 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:13 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:
holy fuck you guys spam like no other.
can you stop clogging the thread with worthless back and forths maybe? ill be back in like an hour

I didn't realise that his scumslip was worthless information.


You're really probing for stuff that isn't there.

There is no scumslip... I can't even begin to fathom where I've done a scumslip.

You said if you were scum you'd have played differently, yet previously you said you always play the same... That's a pretty big slip.


Where did I say I always play the same. Go.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 19 2012 18:20 GMT
#1752
I like to focus on one scum at a time. It's best to only make theories about connections after the flip.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 19 2012 18:23 GMT
#1753
On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa

They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 19 2012 18:23 GMT
#1754
Bleh, you guys are the most stubborn idiots I have ever played with.
It's time to consolidate, because town is going pants on head once again.

I'm voting DYH for the reasons given in my list above...

##Unvote
##Vote DYH
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:24 GMT
#1755
On December 20 2012 03:23 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa

They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples.


As town, I ALWAYS buddy my top town read.

This has nothing to do WITH THE REST OF MY PLAY.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 19 2012 18:24 GMT
#1756
On December 20 2012 03:23 Djodref wrote:
Bleh, you guys are the most stubborn idiots I have ever played with.
It's time to consolidate, because town is going pants on head once again.

I'm voting DYH for the reasons given in my list above...

##Unvote
##Vote DYH

List of Scum confirmed.

Thanks.


Any town remaining, vote Mr.Cheesecake now.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 19 2012 18:25 GMT
#1757
On December 20 2012 03:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:23 Eywa- wrote:
On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa

They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples.


As town, I ALWAYS buddy my top town read.

This has nothing to do WITH THE REST OF MY PLAY.

I didn't realise there was anything more to your play... Aside from raging at people.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 19 2012 18:26 GMT
#1758
On December 20 2012 03:25 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:23 Eywa- wrote:
On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa

They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples.


As town, I ALWAYS buddy my top town read.

This has nothing to do WITH THE REST OF MY PLAY.

I didn't realise there was anything more to your play... Aside from raging at people.


And I didn't realise you were doing anything useful this entire game. The only thing you've done is push my mislynch, rage, and use terrible logic.

I really don't want to flip out again. Djo is right about the stubborn idiots part. I'm done talking for now.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 19 2012 18:28 GMT
#1759
On December 20 2012 03:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:25 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:23 Eywa- wrote:
On December 19 2012 14:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On Djo and Hapa

They really do seem to be the most clear-headed in this thread. I buddied Hapa because he's my strongest town read. I always do that in every game -- just ask me for a few examples.


As town, I ALWAYS buddy my top town read.

This has nothing to do WITH THE REST OF MY PLAY.

I didn't realise there was anything more to your play... Aside from raging at people.


And I didn't realise you were doing anything useful this entire game. The only thing you've done is push my mislynch, rage, and use terrible logic.

I really don't want to flip out again. Djo is right about the stubborn idiots part. I'm done talking for now.

Djo also would have been right about people aside from myself consolidating on town members if he said it... He didn't... Hmmm, from my angle it's easy to observe townies killing townies... I wonder what's got your vision clouded.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 19 2012 18:29 GMT
#1760
On December 20 2012 03:10 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:08 Djodref wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:05 JieXian wrote:
On December 20 2012 03:03 Djodref wrote:
On December 20 2012 02:55 JieXian wrote:
I call


SCUMPSLIP


Blew, half of the players have been doing 'scumslips' at this point of the game...
Even you did

But, please, enlighten me ^^


lol wasn't for you

you're bee nplaying super clean just like dyh


I know it wasn't for me. What were you talking about ?
And how is my play clean ? Can you give me examples ?

Is that really the feeling you get when you read my filter ?


I haven't found many mistakes or contradictions or incoherence in your filter, you haven't been angry at all I even voted for you etc etc


Did you really read carefully my filter before making this comment ? I can think of some mistakes on the top of my head.
You guys are seriously pissing me off with your speculation and refusing to discuss Kush at all. And you are being totally stupid when you publicly reveal your witchcraft votes. And there is almost no constructive discussion in this thread.

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