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kush I know that I didn't even apologise nicely yesterday
it's just a game but I was really yelling at everyone and got out of control when it came to you, I was really frustrated seeing your swtich to morbidus with that no shenanigans thing.
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i gave to dp and morbid. 1 guy is still alive
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ok bye I'm done for the day. Glad to see things toning down.
Even gladder to have seen this earlier
On December 18 2012 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:53 Eywa- wrote:On December 18 2012 07:52 Hapahauli wrote:On December 18 2012 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I'm just curious as to why hapahauli is vouching so hard for cheeseflake when no one else has ever vouched this hard for another person.
Furthermore, I fail to see why we would listen to him given that hapahauli is the only one to change his character profile 4 times (next highest being 0) and he has a scumslip to his name claiming that he is scum...
What more is needed? I'm not vouching for him. I'm stating that I don't have enough evidence to think he's scum. On December 18 2012 07:48 MrZentor wrote:On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote:On December 18 2012 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
I don't like how Eywa is playing, but I'm sure he is town.
-.- Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around. I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not. I care whether they're town or scum. And Eywa is town. I need to calm down. I'll be back in a bit. yet you have more evidence for Jie Xian? lol... you're obviously scum. Yes you piece of shit. I have plenty of evidence for JieXian if you ever bothered to read you dumbfuck.
Was about to post a huge lol and some gifs and youtube links but controled myself. I'll just have to settle with
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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EDIT (I'm glad because I'm feeling less like I'm yelling for hours, like I did yesterday)
but I really still feel like yelling to hapa I have to say that. For bringing up things I've addressed and not answering my questions (I reposted it in the previous page)
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On December 19 2012 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ JieXian
Please catch up on recent thread events. I don't have my vote on you atm. In fact it's probably best just to go start at page 70 and work your way onwards. Less angry and whatnot.
Am I supposed to be flattered with your attempt to bribe me hahahahahahahaha and keep giving me townie reads ever since?
You still haven't answered my questions yet: (Taking off the spoiler because people might miss your lies (trying hard to be nice here, you know what word I had in mind) and incoherence)
On December 18 2012 02:59 JieXian wrote:Hapahauli wrote:Those are "non-controversial" reads in the sense that you didn't do anything useful. Your read on me and DP was unoriginal (since everyone thought we were town), and your top scumread was just the "troll" of the thread. I have 4 people voting the people whom "everyone thought were town". Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive... The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it. In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored. You can only vote for one no-vote. Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ? ##Unvote
##Vote Hapa Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 12:41 Hapahauli wrote:Why DP is Scum+ Show Spoiler +
Strange Tunnel on DjoOn December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive... The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it. In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored. You can only vote for one no-vote. Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ? ##Unvote
##Vote Hapa Wow your an idiot. ##Vote: Djodref.Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless. Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous. Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.
There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far.So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one. Two things to note about the red/bolded passage: 1) DP does everything short of sucking my dick here. He buddies me just about as hard as you can in this passage. For example, I made no claims that a 10-3 setup is "super town favored." Nor is it actually "super town favored." Yet he goes and exhalts my idea as "really really good." 2) One of DP's main reasons for suspecting Djo at this point is that Djo disagrees with my assessment on the 10-3 setup thing. Part of the implication here is that DP agrees thtaThis is odd, considering his next post. On December 15 2012 11:21 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 11:19 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't So answer me this Djo: 1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter? 2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting? 3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored. 1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies 2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads 3) True, but impossible in this game 1- you are valuing blues to highly 2- That is a ridiculous proposition 3- So you were voting someone for a plan that was impossible. But you knew that. So you are essentially voting for someone for not reading the OP?
Do you think town or scum are less likely to read the OP? Despite agreeing with my "10-3 setup" stuff earlier, DP all of a sudden is assuming that Djodref is correct in his setup theory without any clarification from the mod in the mean time. This doesn't make sense at all. How could you agree with my comments and speculation, then go and post something like this? Very simply, DP lost track of the reasons he was tunneling Djo. His tunneling doesn't have a townie thought-process behind it - he's just trying to heap as much suspicion on Djo as he can. This is pretty clear by his next post on the subject: On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.
Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP? This sounds so desperate to me. It's very clear by now that the argument between me and Djo is simply a misunderstanding of the OP, yet DP twists the hell out of his words and flips a shit.
Other Stuff:Firstly, DP's first post: On December 15 2012 08:48 DarthPunk wrote:
sup kids. I hate policy talk. That is my policy. I am vanilla town. The only purpose of this post is to stifle discussion. There's zero reason you should be so against policy talk before it even starts. Secondly, when I vote him - mind you I'm the ONLY person to be suspicious of him so far - he whines about it: On December 15 2012 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one.
Source: my last three town games. and this game. The whining is completely disproportionate to the suspicion put on him. In addition, DP doesn't hate playing town. Fact. Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 12:10 DarthPunk wrote:On December 15 2012 12:02 Hapahauli wrote:Well the problem is that DP tunneled you (Djo) without having ever even asked or cared about one of the key points he found you scummy for. DP found you initially scummy because he seemingly believed that a 10/3 setup was achievable. On December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive... The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it. In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored. You can only vote for one no-vote. Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ? ##Unvote
##Vote Hapa Wow your an idiot. ##Vote: Djodref. Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless. Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous. Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far. So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one. But as it turns out, Djo was right. And then DP turns around and completely forgets about it and tunnels him for the opposite. On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.
Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP? But on top of all this, he has one vote on him, and he's already whining... On December 15 2012 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one.
Source: my last three town games. and this game. Lynch this sucker. He's scum. No. the vote wasn't for voting against your plan. It was for voting you when there was absolutely no reason for you to be scum. I didn't really care about the plan at all. It was also for being an idiot about not sharing town reads. I didn't change the reason Ivoted for him. The reason I voted him still stands regardless of the fate of your 'idea' he was voting you for absolutely no reason and was justifying it with something that was not alignment indicative. The thing I noted later was not the 'new' reason for my vote but an ADDITIONAL reason. Also whining is not alignment indicative. Which you should well know. I whined as town in Mario. Your case is a dog that needs to be put down. I actually can't see town hapa making a case this horrible. But I have seen scum hapa make shitty cases like this. ##unvote
##vote: hapa ........hello?
For that matter, I already mentioned that I was back meaning I'm done with the catching up and I wasn't satisfied with the lack or MRCC = scum attention below: ie You don't have a good rebutal ie you're scum
On December 19 2012 00:11 JieXian wrote:Ok now that I'm back, why is everyone forgetting MrCC? ##Vote MrCheeseCake My case is based on the scumminess in his attitude towards thrawn. I feel very tired repeating myself to scum because they aren't in the position to listen because it involves claiming to be scum. Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 01:03 JieXian wrote:On December 18 2012 00:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 18 2012 00:47 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. On December 17 2012 06:02 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:58 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lol JX, what reason do you have to vote thrawn? Also, didn't you think I was scum? Why would you agree with me. You seriously should have read my filter wth I'm trying to swing the vote away from morbid shit And onto any other random ass person? Rofl. well you did post a case against the random ass person On December 17 2012 05:53 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:shit it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 03:49 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow. Thrawn is an Opportunist
+ Show Spoiler +On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:ok ##Vote DjodrefShow nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.
what kind of information are you looking for? Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory. On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP.
Wait, What's this?On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons
1. start of the game and everyone is lurking
2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics
Didn't Thrawn V OTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him? On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun
##unvote
##Vote: Mr Cheesecake
pie is better and all you mo-fos need to start posting
Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie. On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok here's what I probably mean about kush...
you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.
he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town. PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation.
Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome
i'll lynch lurkers
LURKERS
i will happily lynch you Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched. Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea! On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
i still really really like it But I still really really like a JX lynch! On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that! Why is Thrawn so indecisive?On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:
I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.
I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)
no this is a lie Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because xLater I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because xDjo why did you vote for Mr Zentor But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another ##Vote MrZentor the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp. J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker. Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum.
##Vote: Thrawn On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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Yes we need a vote count.
I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you. So you posted your long wall of text case against thrawn for shits and giggles? I get it Jx, you're really paranoid. If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME. If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so. Ok join me #Vote thrawn2122 Mrcc care to explain all that? Makes a case on thrawn -> drops it -> I push it -> claims he's not talking to me -> said he'd lynch thrawn -> calls him a random ass person HELLO? I made a case on thrawn. I dropped it because nobody else wanted to lynch him. Getting 6 other votes onto him would have been impossible. You "push it".. that's one vote. I get my vote off Morb and risk a no-lynch. I want to lynch somebody and not nobody. I called him a random ass person because you have no reason to vote him, I do. let's look at your justifications on your vote for morbid On December 17 2012 02:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:58 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesey baby, will you lurker lynch with me? morbidus sound good? Ill think about it honey. On December 17 2012 04:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Fuck it, may as well...
##Unvote
##Vote Morbidius L O fucking L Here are my reasons to vote for thrawn On December 16 2012 23:53 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to implymy read on zentor is still null. hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperativeReading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him. On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply On December 17 2012 02:54 JieXian wrote:I'll do it for you On December 16 2012 23:53 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to imply my read on zentor is still null. hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperative Reading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him. and hapa, I've changed my mind about providing reads on those 3 people and I think I shouldn't post read on them for now. For now the burning question is: What the hell are you contradicting yourself that badly? I made the most controversial post here and instantly got 4-5 votes on me. You yourself thought my reads were terrible Do you know what happened after you posted the case on thrawn? you chatted with eywa against going for hapa On December 17 2012 02:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate? Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea. Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior? Because people who play are meant to read the thread, I made the point of "why", if you read you'll understand the justification. Whether or not you agree is up to you. Town want to convince others that their top scumread is actually scum. Presenting a case with justification does that. Parking your vote on Hapa and telling people to go searching on their own isn't going to convince people. On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? and GAVE UP No one influential came in to discredit you yet -- neither hapa nor DP. And you shove away the only person who agreed with you = me and his defense was exactly why he was scummy in the first place Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 00:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I made a case on thrawn. I dropped it because nobody else wanted to lynch him. Getting 6 other votes onto him would have been impossible. You "push it".. that's one vote. I get my vote off Morb and risk a no-lynch. I want to lynch somebody and not nobody.
I called him a random ass person because you have no reason to vote him, I do. MrCC dropped it before people were even around to post their thoughts
I'm down for a hapa or mrcc lynch, now let me address the voting
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If anyone can discredit any of the below with proper arguements and not vacuous statements like:
- it's so stupid
- SO MUCH WIFOM
- so incoherent
I'll reconsider my current training onto hapa and may even consider him town if it's good enough
Fact: Everyone thinks hapa and dp are a strong townie except for me and eywa given how they sheeped them and defended hapa when eywa had a case against him D1
Extra Justification :
On December 18 2012 02:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Your read on me and DP was unoriginal (since everyone thought we were town)
Fact : People have voted for the strong townie = DP and hence they probably voted for hapa too.
Fact : the number of candidates are really small given the huge number of players who were considered lurkers, and people like me and eywa whom none trusted on D1
Fact : There's really no WIFOM with the blue shot case. (Please show me how it can be WIFOM if you think so)
Reason : Nobody can come up with a sensible advantage for mafia not to have blue vigi shot hapa
@Djo Please convince me ok?
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On December 20 2012 01:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 01:40 JieXian wrote:On December 19 2012 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ JieXian
Please catch up on recent thread events. I don't have my vote on you atm. In fact it's probably best just to go start at page 70 and work your way onwards. Less angry and whatnot. Am I supposed to be flattered with your attempt to bribe me hahahahahahahaha and keep giving me townie reads ever since? You still haven't answered my questions yet: (Taking off the spoiler because people might miss your lies (trying hard to be nice here, you know what word I had in mind) and incoherence) On December 18 2012 02:59 JieXian wrote:Hapahauli wrote:Those are "non-controversial" reads in the sense that you didn't do anything useful. Your read on me and DP was unoriginal (since everyone thought we were town), and your top scumread was just the "troll" of the thread. I have 4 people voting the people whom "everyone thought were town". On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive... The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it. In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored. You can only vote for one no-vote. Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ? ##Unvote
##Vote Hapa On December 15 2012 12:41 Hapahauli wrote:Why DP is Scum+ Show Spoiler +
Strange Tunnel on DjoOn December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive... The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it. In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored. You can only vote for one no-vote. Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ? ##Unvote
##Vote Hapa Wow your an idiot. ##Vote: Djodref.Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless. Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous. Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.
There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far.So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one. Two things to note about the red/bolded passage: 1) DP does everything short of sucking my dick here. He buddies me just about as hard as you can in this passage. For example, I made no claims that a 10-3 setup is "super town favored." Nor is it actually "super town favored." Yet he goes and exhalts my idea as "really really good." 2) One of DP's main reasons for suspecting Djo at this point is that Djo disagrees with my assessment on the 10-3 setup thing. Part of the implication here is that DP agrees thtaThis is odd, considering his next post. On December 15 2012 11:21 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 11:19 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't So answer me this Djo: 1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter? 2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting? 3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored. 1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies 2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads 3) True, but impossible in this game 1- you are valuing blues to highly 2- That is a ridiculous proposition 3- So you were voting someone for a plan that was impossible. But you knew that. So you are essentially voting for someone for not reading the OP?
Do you think town or scum are less likely to read the OP? Despite agreeing with my "10-3 setup" stuff earlier, DP all of a sudden is assuming that Djodref is correct in his setup theory without any clarification from the mod in the mean time. This doesn't make sense at all. How could you agree with my comments and speculation, then go and post something like this? Very simply, DP lost track of the reasons he was tunneling Djo. His tunneling doesn't have a townie thought-process behind it - he's just trying to heap as much suspicion on Djo as he can. This is pretty clear by his next post on the subject: On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.
Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP? This sounds so desperate to me. It's very clear by now that the argument between me and Djo is simply a misunderstanding of the OP, yet DP twists the hell out of his words and flips a shit.
Other Stuff:Firstly, DP's first post: On December 15 2012 08:48 DarthPunk wrote:
sup kids. I hate policy talk. That is my policy. I am vanilla town. The only purpose of this post is to stifle discussion. There's zero reason you should be so against policy talk before it even starts. Secondly, when I vote him - mind you I'm the ONLY person to be suspicious of him so far - he whines about it: On December 15 2012 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one.
Source: my last three town games. and this game. The whining is completely disproportionate to the suspicion put on him. In addition, DP doesn't hate playing town. Fact. On December 15 2012 12:10 DarthPunk wrote:On December 15 2012 12:02 Hapahauli wrote:Well the problem is that DP tunneled you (Djo) without having ever even asked or cared about one of the key points he found you scummy for. DP found you initially scummy because he seemingly believed that a 10/3 setup was achievable. On December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive... The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it. In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored. You can only vote for one no-vote. Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ? ##Unvote
##Vote Hapa Wow your an idiot. ##Vote: Djodref. Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless. Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous. Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far. So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one. But as it turns out, Djo was right. And then DP turns around and completely forgets about it and tunnels him for the opposite. On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.
Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP? But on top of all this, he has one vote on him, and he's already whining... On December 15 2012 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one.
Source: my last three town games. and this game. Lynch this sucker. He's scum. No. the vote wasn't for voting against your plan. It was for voting you when there was absolutely no reason for you to be scum. I didn't really care about the plan at all. It was also for being an idiot about not sharing town reads. I didn't change the reason Ivoted for him. The reason I voted him still stands regardless of the fate of your 'idea' he was voting you for absolutely no reason and was justifying it with something that was not alignment indicative. The thing I noted later was not the 'new' reason for my vote but an ADDITIONAL reason. Also whining is not alignment indicative. Which you should well know. I whined as town in Mario. Your case is a dog that needs to be put down. I actually can't see town hapa making a case this horrible. But I have seen scum hapa make shitty cases like this. ##unvote
##vote: hapa On December 15 2012 12:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
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##Vote Darthpunk ........hello? For that matter, I already mentioned that I was back meaning I'm done with the catching up and I wasn't satisfied with the lack or MRCC = scum attention below: ie You don't have a good rebutal ie you're scumOn December 19 2012 00:11 JieXian wrote:Ok now that I'm back, why is everyone forgetting MrCC? ##Vote MrCheeseCake My case is based on the scumminess in his attitude towards thrawn. I feel very tired repeating myself to scum because they aren't in the position to listen because it involves claiming to be scum. On December 18 2012 01:03 JieXian wrote:On December 18 2012 00:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 18 2012 00:47 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. On December 17 2012 06:02 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:58 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lol JX, what reason do you have to vote thrawn? Also, didn't you think I was scum? Why would you agree with me. You seriously should have read my filter wth I'm trying to swing the vote away from morbid shit And onto any other random ass person? Rofl. well you did post a case against the random ass person On December 17 2012 05:53 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:shit it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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Jx, you're really paranoid.
If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME. If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so. Ok join me #Vote thrawn2122 Mrcc care to explain all that? Makes a case on thrawn -> drops it -> I push it -> claims he's not talking to me -> said he'd lynch thrawn -> calls him a random ass person HELLO? I made a case on thrawn. I dropped it because nobody else wanted to lynch him. Getting 6 other votes onto him would have been impossible. You "push it".. that's one vote. I get my vote off Morb and risk a no-lynch. I want to lynch somebody and not nobody. I called him a random ass person because you have no reason to vote him, I do. let's look at your justifications on your vote for morbid On December 17 2012 02:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:58 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesey baby, will you lurker lynch with me? morbidus sound good? Ill think about it honey. On December 17 2012 04:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Fuck it, may as well...
##Unvote
##Vote Morbidius L O fucking L Here are my reasons to vote for thrawn On December 16 2012 23:53 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to implymy read on zentor is still null. hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperativeReading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him. On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply On December 17 2012 02:54 JieXian wrote:I'll do it for you On December 16 2012 23:53 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to imply my read on zentor is still null. hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperative Reading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him. and hapa, I've changed my mind about providing reads on those 3 people and I think I shouldn't post read on them for now. For now the burning question is: What the hell are you contradicting yourself that badly? I made the most controversial post here and instantly got 4-5 votes on me. You yourself thought my reads were terrible Do you know what happened after you posted the case on thrawn? you chatted with eywa against going for hapa On December 17 2012 02:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate? Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea. Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior? Because people who play are meant to read the thread, I made the point of "why", if you read you'll understand the justification. Whether or not you agree is up to you. Town want to convince others that their top scumread is actually scum. Presenting a case with justification does that. Parking your vote on Hapa and telling people to go searching on their own isn't going to convince people. On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? and GAVE UP No one influential came in to discredit you yet -- neither hapa nor DP. And you shove away the only person who agreed with you = me and his defense was exactly why he was scummy in the first place On December 18 2012 00:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I made a case on thrawn. I dropped it because nobody else wanted to lynch him. Getting 6 other votes onto him would have been impossible. You "push it".. that's one vote. I get my vote off Morb and risk a no-lynch. I want to lynch somebody and not nobody.
I called him a random ass person because you have no reason to vote him, I do. MrCC dropped it before people were even around to post their thoughts I'm down for a hapa or mrcc lynch, now let me address the voting I already told you I dropped it because there was a .1% chance of 6 other people going for the lynch in that frame of time. Don't know what else to tell you.
lol? Just note the time everyone (it's in chronological order):
On December 16 2012 08:25 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count!
Jiexian (6) - thrawn2112, DarthPunk, DoYouHas, MrZentor, Hapahauli, Morbidius
Morbidius (1) - Drazak
The deadline is in 21.5 hours at Sunday, Dec 16 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Please make sure to vote and to cast your secret witchcraft votes by then. Anyone who has not voted by the end of the day will be subject to moderator action.
On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote:
we really need a vote count...
We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch.
Who are teh viable lynches at this point?
Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers?
On December 17 2012 04:37 DarthPunk wrote:
yeah. I just woke up. I really don't want to lynch Jiexian right now. I'm thinking we all consolidate onto Morbidius.
##unvote
##Vote: Morbidus
On December 17 2012 05:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count!
Morbidius (7) - Drazak, MrZentor, DP, kush, MrCheesecake, DoYouHas, threesr
Currently Morbidius is set to be lynched!
The deadline is in ~35 minutes at Sunday, Dec 16 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Please make sure to vote and to cast your secret witchcraft votes by then. Anyone who has not voted by the end of the day will be subject to moderator action.
A common trait in liars = they make up to many stories to remember them
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On December 20 2012 01:58 MrZentor wrote:
We're killing DYH, Eywa.
whatever happened to your hapa and mrcc read
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and before hapa comes in to comment on how I disagreed with "everyone is a confirmed townie" and used it as a justification right after:
My so called scumslip post was made really early into the first half of D1, where the situation was different for them.
As D1 progressed, dp and hapa appeared more and more townie
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On December 20 2012 02:05 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 07:16 MrZentor wrote:
Don't worry, Hapa.
You're far too paranoid to me scum.
Because he has a far better chance of flipping scum than I do, even though I'm sure DYH is scum.
##Unvote
##vote Mr.Cheesecake
The only reason I voted for Mr CC is that I didn't want to get lynched myself; I wanted to kill DYH.
ok fine what about hapa?
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On December 20 2012 02:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that's literally no more than a couple of hours to get everyone to bandwagon onto Thrawn. Zero people showed the slightest interest. You did, but it was rather feigned.
So calm yourself.
On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you.
if it was feigned why did you had to shut me up
+ Show Spoiler +On December 17 2012 02:56 JieXian wrote:EDIT Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 23:53 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to imply my read on zentor is still null. hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperative Reading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him.
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On December 20 2012 02:17 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXan
Fact: DP, which is confirmed town because dead, proposed a strategy to note vote for the possible strongest town players
Fact: I used this strategy because I found it reasonable, because you spread the risks, ie you don't lose a good player and a blue...
Speculation: Some other people may also have followed this strategy, we don't know
Conclusion: we have no way of knowing anything, and this discussion could endanger the blues
-> Comments on Kush and DYH please
Not true, because DP got shot anyways. People did not take his advice.
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well I didn't, because as I said, the only choices were strong townies
or suspicious people
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2nd edit: strong or half strong for that matter
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I haven't been not paying much attention to dyh and kush because I already have 2 highly scummy targets
given the situation I'm forced to go through the dyh case. Give me some time
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On December 20 2012 02:29 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 02:24 JieXian wrote:On December 20 2012 02:17 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXan
Fact: DP, which is confirmed town because dead, proposed a strategy to note vote for the possible strongest town players
Fact: I used this strategy because I found it reasonable, because you spread the risks, ie you don't lose a good player and a blue...
Speculation: Some other people may also have followed this strategy, we don't know
Conclusion: we have no way of knowing anything, and this discussion could endanger the blues
-> Comments on Kush and DYH please Not true, because DP got shot anyways. People did not take his advice. How the fuck do you know ? I'm just telling you that I took his advice. I didn't vote for the strongest possible town, that is Hapa. DP is good, but not as strong as Hapa imho...
Fact : The number of candidates are really small given the huge number of players who were considered lurkers, and people like me and eywa whom none trusted on D1
From:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2012 01:52 JieXian wrote:Fact: Everyone thinks hapa and dp are a strong townie except for me and eywa given how they sheeped them and defended hapa when eywa had a case against him D1 Extra Justification : Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 02:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Your read on me and DP was unoriginal (since everyone thought we were town) Fact : People have voted for the strong townie = DP and hence they probably voted for hapa too. Fact : the number of candidates are really small given the huge number of players who were considered lurkers, and people like me and eywa whom none trusted on D1Fact : There's really no WIFOM with the blue shot case. (Please show me how it can be WIFOM if you think so) Reason : Nobody can come up with a sensible advantage for mafia not to have blue vigi shot hapa @Djo Please convince me ok?
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On December 20 2012 02:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 02:23 JieXian wrote:On December 20 2012 02:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that's literally no more than a couple of hours to get everyone to bandwagon onto Thrawn. Zero people showed the slightest interest. You did, but it was rather feigned.
So calm yourself. On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you. if it was feigned why did you had to shut me up + Show Spoiler +On December 17 2012 02:56 JieXian wrote:EDIT Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 23:53 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 16 2012 20:45 JieXian wrote:On December 16 2012 20:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
frustrating, uncooperative, etc Your inference is based on the assumption/information that he's townie lol you should have just called it a scum slip if that's what you're trying to imply my read on zentor is still null. hahaha :D just probing man but now that you've mentioned it I can imagine the mafia QT to be you asking him to post something and being all frustrated because he's so uncooperative Reading through your filter I can see NOT ONE single post of you asking him to "participate". I see one from drazak. All you did was say you had a null vote and attack me and kush who were directing attention towards him. I was talking to Kush about what lurkers he had in mind. Then you started being like "I'm still waiting for him to make his response" what have you. The post wasn't directed towards you, it was directed at Kush.
Let me be sure, so you're saying you shut me up because I was being irritating bringing up something unimportant while you and kush were discussing?
If that's the case then I can cool down
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On December 20 2012 02:34 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 02:33 Djodref wrote:
Let's discuss this in the post game to see which one of us is right. This discussion is pointless right now, and I think you are just trying to avoid real topics with it.
You have failed to bring a case with Hapa. If you have a good case, I could accept your speculation as the icing on the cake.
Anyway, Hapa is not getting lynched today, so we have limited time to discuss this, because there is no consolidation on the lynch right.
That's why I really need your comments on DYH, CC and Kush... Mr.Cheesecake is my lynch, I will not compromise.
then your best bet is to convince the rest that the dyh case isn't strong
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I was not irrelevant? So maybe it was somewhat relevant but you weren't interested?
I don't get that harsh response
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