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On December 18 2012 04:10 MrZentor wrote: It's unlikely that he's town. It's unlikely, even if he's town, that scum has another bullet. Also, waiting two hours won't stop him from getting shot if he's blue. If the witch hunter has bullets, it can shoot at any time. This is so wrong. I mean, this conclusion is just so wrong. We have no way to know what scum would do, but I totally disagree with what you find likely or not. Why ? Because Hapa has been looking town all day during day 1. There is no contradiction. | ||
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On December 18 2012 09:57 MrZentor wrote: But if How do we know that a scum won't try t acot like an helpful, active townie? Are you talking about Hapa here ? Because I don't see him pushing a scum agenda. I mean, okay, he could be playing a hell of a scum game. But there are so many players here being sooo scummy. Like Eywa, JieXan, Kush or even you with your attempts to out the blues. Did you read my case again Kush ? Not to mention Drazak or DYH that you don't even know what they are doing in this game. Hapa is alsmost townie by elimination here. | ||
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I'm not here to participate into your shitfest and that makes me scum ? Let me be clear I live in South Korea, most of the discussion here happens at night for me I have another game going on wich requires much attention and time for me I don't want to participate into this kind of discussions I provided some good cases that almost everybody has dismissed or discarded If you think I'm scum, you have to write a case against me. Something I could answer to. I cannot accept to let you throw away 'Djodref is possible scum' or 'Djodref is scum' comments like this. But I'm glad that this shitfest is over, seriously... | ||
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What do you guys think about lynching Kush today ? I didn't get a single comment on my case against him. | ||
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Ikr, but at least I'm making the effort to participate into the two games. Anyway, I would like to discuas this with you in the post game rather than now  | ||
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I could totally imagine him or drazak being mafia given their general lack of emotional involment during the shitfest. I need to look at them both, but I would prefer to do it from a computer. Regarding Kush, I don't remember him mentioning finals, but right now I could have him as scum for activity alone. He's really avoiding to answer some questions. I have personal concerns regarding him because he s keeping saying that I'm mafia without backing it up. I would gadly unvote Eywa for Kush if Eywa keeps on contributing like he started to do. | ||
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On December 18 2012 13:34 Hapahauli wrote: Ok sorry that was uncalled for. But please read up on the last few pages and give your comments. Totally uncalled for... It's ok but I would like to mention to you that I've prepared my case against Kush yesterday while I was also talking my way out of a lynch... I didn't wake up to post it on time but the deadline was at fucking 6am here. Not to mention that I have stayed awake until 2am to see the thread going totally pants on head, ready to out the blues and stuff. | ||
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I call everybody out for lurking right now ! Especially MrZentor ! Seriously guys, I live in Korea, you cannot expect me to stay up all night just to see you start to outing the blues. You can check the KST in TL banner, it's now the middle of the afternoon here, so I can start to shit this thread with myself. By first I would like to tell you who I'm going to vote for this round... Not This post was a sarcastic post. I'm not mad to have been called a lurker... Just you have to realize that I'm living on a different timezone. | ||
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Right now, I would lynch Kush over DYH. I really think he has more chances to flip scum than DYH. I really need to see more from DYH and drazak though... | ||
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Kush What a scummer ! My case here boils down to the following main points. Let's have a look at Kush's behavior in this game.
Part I --- Flying away ! On December 15 2012 11:34 Hapahauli wrote: Actually kush, talk to me about that a bit. What about it would you see as scummy? Did Kush ever answered this question ? Not at all... On December 16 2012 13:49 Djodref wrote: @ Kush If you are around, I want you to address my case. I'm really interested in your stance on me right now Did he address my case+ Show Spoiler [My case against Kush] + On December 16 2012 13:32 Djodref wrote: Kushm4sta Kush <3 Kush is notoriously hard to read and an easy mislynch, but they are some things that concerns me in his posts so far. The first thing, of course, is that he is going after me in a very nit-picky way. He is attacking me for one post that he takes totally out of context. That could totally be a scum kush scanning filters to look for something scummy. Let's take a look. Totally taken out of the context here. At least he quotes the whole sentence in the next post, but still failed to note that I was answering to Hapa and DP at that time. I brought it up because it was clear for me at that time that Hapa and DP didn't read the part about the witchcraft votes in the OP. I've explained it already when he posted this. So he totally discards the context of this post one more time. For the pressure thing, it's kind of true, but I have been mislynched in the NMM XIX game for not giving a shit about people going after me for bad reasons. So, yeah, I care more about my defense now. I don't understand were he comes from when saying that my vote on Hapa is a panic vote. That's just bs. The other thing is that Kush has shown an anti-town mentality. Never voting someone, no matter how scummy he looks... Lynching lurkers over scumreads... That's anti-town, but kush is also quite non-sensical, so I'm not sure what to do with that. At least he is consistent with his rule. Oh wait ! he is being called for it and then... WTF ! This lurker issue is very concerning this game. I don't understand how he could not stick to his rule now ! So, all in all, I'm leaning scum on Kush, but it's a weak read because he is could have done these posts as town as well. On December 17 2012 11:44 Djodref wrote: @ Kush Right now, I have you as either eywa's scum buddy hard defending him, either you going totally pants on head. I'm leaning over the first solution right now. Please make your case against me so I can see how full of shit you are. Did he ever make a case against me while stating many times that I was his scumread ? No... And Kush is now officially announcing that he is taking his holidays in the scumQT now that he is totally caught in the same bed with Eywa. On December 17 2012 19:24 kushm4sta wrote: who would use masonry that sounds like total shit compared to the others... guess what. all activity I promised tomorrow is hereby postponed until Tuesday. Sorry. Part II --- Defending Eywa This part works regardless of Eywa alignment, but of course it is going to be even better if Eywa flips scum. How could Kush hard defend Eywa so strongly ? What did Eywa do to convince him that he is town ? I don't know, and kush didn't ever say why he thinks that Eywa is town (the newbie excuse doesn't count in my view). Moreover, kush has already been caught scumslipping like Eywa did in the NMM XXIII game. That was almost exactly the same circumstances. How could have he forgotten it ? He is being a total hypocrite in taking Eywa's defense. I think he is trying to defend a scumbuddy (scum kush is rather obvious) or trying to get town cred by defending a townie in the improbable case where Eywa flips town. Please also notice how he is dismissing Hapa's case to concentrate on the scumslip only. On another note, it's not like his scum read was attacking Eywa with a biased case. Hapa, the "strongest town", in his own words (scumslipping much ?), is pushing a good case against Eywa. How could he be so certain that Eywa is town ? The answer is simple: town kush wouldn't, it's just that we have here scum kush. Scum kush defending scum Eywa, most probably. And I think Kush was also scumslipping here. On December 17 2012 01:51 kushm4sta wrote: That is a scumhunting strategy. He is pressuring people. For that reason you want to lynch the strongest town in this game? There was not a single mention of a possible town Hapa before this post. The previous mention of Hapa in kush's filter is here. On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* Hapa... I am concerned with this guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has a really good feel for dps meta and has caught scum dp many times. But I found his case on dp really underwhelming and reaching. And then he drops the tunnel because of something he read irc...really? *snip* Part III --- Dumb on purpose I don't want to comment these posts in details. Just make yourself your own opinion about it. On December 17 2012 14:32 kushm4sta wrote: Exhibit A: Ewya's alleged scumslip Exhibit B: In which Ewya says im town This is just one of many examples of his use of the word citizen. Ewya says CITIZEN when he means town and TOWNIE when he means player. Remember this is his first forum mafia game. The only experience he has had is IRL mafia. So untrue... On December 16 2012 13:55 kushm4sta wrote: @djodref have you ever made a mega case as town? Why did you feel to make THREE mega cases at this stage in the game? Because I'm town you dumbass... On December 16 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* 2 of the lurkers look like they are just gonna get straight up replaced - Eywa Mr cheesecake so we probably dont have to worry about them. Morbidus looks like he's starting to participate more now. JieXian has put pressure on Mr Zentor, who actually has virtually no content Threesr might be replaced he is doing so little. If he's not replaced I'm gonna be worried. Mr. Zentor is the scariest lurker for me right now. So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game. So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs. Lurker issue really isn't that bad this game ? For real ? On December 16 2012 05:48 kushm4sta wrote: Yup that's my rule for this game. kill lurkers before scumreads Ah, nevermind... Conclusion Kush is most certainly scum I still do prefer a Eywa lynch for tomorrow. Because, yeah, kush being kush, there is still a small chance for him to be town. 1% town chance for Eywa right now, 5% town chance for Kush. GG guys, Y u no concede ?[/QUOTE] | ||
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Kush More stuff on Kush, his obsession with lurkers Ok, right now, I really think that Kush is the best lynch for today. I'm pretty sure that he is mafia. I strongly advise you to read his filter before reading this case. The new points I am bringing here are the following
Part I --- Lurker Obsession My point here is that Kush unusual super strong stance on lurkers allows him to avoid contributing to find the mafia. Sure, he is making some comments, and mainly against me, but the majority of his D1 filter is speaking about the lurkers. On December 15 2012 10:27 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* 3. I am going to advocate the systematic extermination of lurkers. Yup I want to lynch unreadable over scumreads. And lurking makes you unreadable and immune to all efforts at scumhunting. Fuck fake pressuring active people.by pretending we might vote them. IF there is a lurker I will push his lynch. His opening post is very aggressive, but he doesn't try to convince people to follow his policy. There is no justification for this aggression. And that's why I think this stance is fake. On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* this game is full of lurkers, but I think most of them are going to get modkilled or replaced. I will vote for a lurker who is avoiding modkill, and right now this includes drazak and threesr. The thing about the lurker policy is that you lynch any lurker, especially the ones who are going to be replaced. If a lurky mafia player gets replaced, he has won one day without contributing at all, for free. On December 16 2012 05:48 kushm4sta wrote: Yup that's my rule for this game. kill lurkers before scumreads This statement is clearly showing an anti-town mentality. And it's reinforced by the fact that Kush was looking for lurkers to kill rather than scumreads during D1. Here is a typical contribution from Kush during D1. On December 16 2012 11:14 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* 2 of the lurkers look like they are just gonna get straight up replaced - Eywa Mr cheesecake so we probably dont have to worry about them. Morbidus looks like he's starting to participate more now. JieXian has put pressure on Mr Zentor, who actually has virtually no content Threesr might be replaced he is doing so little. If he's not replaced I'm gonna be worried. Mr. Zentor is the scariest lurker for me right now. So when you look at it, the lurker issue really isn't that bad this game. So thrawn, when you say lurkers are making this game "unplayable" that is kinda bs. Ok, I would understand that we could have enforced a strict "lynch a lurker" policy for this D1, given the participation levels, but my problem with Kush here is that he missed the opportunity to apply his policy on the most perfect target for a lurker lynch: threesr. On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote: we really need a vote count... We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch. Who are teh viable lynches at this point? Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? I don't understand why Kush didn't go super mad against threesr. This guy was our lurkiest player by far. Where is the kush that should be spamming the thread to advocate a threesr lynch ? I didn't see him. My conclusion is that Kush's stance on the lurkers this game was fake, and allowed him to avoid contributing in a constructive way. He has not done any sort of scumhunting, but rather has spread suspicion on players for free. Moreover, he has been a while that Kush is not concerned with the "Lynch a Lurker" policy. This is something he has not even mentioned in Chrono Trigger, or the Acme Game. Where he was town. He has nothing to justify this sudden change in his play. Did he have a bad experience with lurkers recently ? I don't think so... | ||
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His stance on Hapa On December 16 2012 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: *snip* Hapa... I am concerned with this guy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he has a really good feel for dps meta and has caught scum dp many times. But I found his case on dp really underwhelming and reaching. And then he drops the tunnel because of something he read irc...really? *snip* Note that he doesn't care trying to figure out Hapa's alignment before the following post. No interactions with Hapa. And then, suddenly ! On December 17 2012 01:51 kushm4sta wrote: That is a scumhunting strategy. He is pressuring people. For that reason you want to lynch the strongest town in this game? Let's vote Kush, shall we ? | ||
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Could you guys give us your comments ? | ||
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On December 18 2012 07:32 DoYouHas wrote: Wrong, your case is based on that assumption being true, mine is not. My case is based on you pushing a strategy that would reveal whether hapa is blue or not when he is still potentially in danger of being silver shot. My case is based on acknowledging that you don't know exactly how scum are operating, which you clearly don't, because you want to lynch hapa. How could be MrZ be scum if he doesn't know how the scumteam is operating ? I think there is something wrong in this post. Honestly, I don't clearly understand what is his point against MrZentor here. @ MrZentor Why are you so obsessed with silver bullets ? Could we agree that your speculation was useless now ? | ||
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I'm really interested in your opinion on Kush when you come back and you read my cases. Would you like to lynch him today ? I also recommend you to catch up with the whole thread before posting in the future... | ||
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On December 18 2012 12:11 Eywa- wrote: *snip* Djoref is just... Well let's just say he's given just about everyone a criminal case which proves their guilt... This does not add to his credibility... This does not make him look good, makes him look scum. He's been head hunting for a while. *snip* What I'm doing is called scumhunting. I'm giving criminal cases on the people I'm suspicious of, to gauge their defense, and also to start constructive discussion about them from all the members. The problem here is that nobody commented nor addressed my cases so far. It doesn't make me scum, it should make me town. That's why I was keeping asking you for a "criminal case" against Cheesecake. I've read your cases but I didn't like them because I didn't understand what you were trying to prove. I like lists and concision. So could you make a list with your main points against Cheesecake, please ? | ||
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