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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:17 GMT
#2414
On December 23 2012 04:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Eywa, I've already presented how you're the most anti-town person in the thread by far. I have an entire case on you.

I have no illusions about my anti-town play, the thing you might ask yourself is how can I play so anti-town with 2-3 people really hating on me while not even slipping up in the slightest due to emotions, I'm under no pressure... You can kill me and lose the game or you can not kill me and likely lose the game anyway because this town has no idea who is scum and who is not.

My play is hyper aggressive... You don't like it, but neither of these are an argument for me being scum.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:19 GMT
#2416
On December 23 2012 04:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On December 23 2012 04:14 ghost_403 wrote:
@MrCC: At least Eywa talks to DYH in thread. Examining his filter for 30 secounds shows that he actually responds to the stuff that DYH lobs in his general direction. Typically, scumbuddies don't do that; they fear talking to each other too cordially in thread, and talk about serious stuff outside of the thread. I don't see his interactions with DYH implying that he's scum.


I understand this, and it's what I looked for in my cases. It's easily faked, however, I mean I always talked to Debears in my first scum game in the thread; it's something he told me to do.

Where does he speak to DYH specifically?

Everything is easy to do on a forum, I can role play a pirate, a scientist, a lawyer or a street bum and you wouldn't know the difference, nor would you know if I were lying in any case.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:26 GMT
#2419
On December 23 2012 04:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Here it is. Plenty of stuff I could have added to it, but it's what I came up with at the time. For scumslips, etc see Hapa about that.

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On December 20 2012 10:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Eywa is SCUM

Just read up on it!


Here is Eywa's entrance post:
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On December 16 2012 23:30 Eywa- wrote:
Hey guys, I haven't been lurking... I just haven't gotten around to reading up until now. After reading I see a lot of people saying weird shit that I couldn't really come into this game expecting to hear, but that is basically just written off as different cultural background or different lifestyles. I really can't make a judgement based on that. So, I will go by the very standard... Goal of the game. Generally speaking, the mafia or in this case, the church will want to be on everyone's good side... Thus jumping from band wagon to band wagon to please the crowd with his/her vote. For this reason, I shall vote for the king of band wagon hopping:

##vote hapahauli

If you have any questions about me or anything game related to discuss with me concerning my character, please don't hesitate to ask.


He votes Hapa for jumping from bandwagon to bandwagon. Personally, I think this is a garbage vote because Hapa was making cases, not sheeping onto a bandwagon. I ask him to explain himself.

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On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.

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On December 17 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.


Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior?

Because people who play are meant to read the thread, I made the point of "why", if you read you'll understand the justification. Whether or not you agree is up to you.


Just go read up on it bro. I'm not making a case, fuck that. Towns goal is to convince others that your target is scum. Eywa never does this, just drops his vote because Hapa is inspecting many different players. This play is generally anti-town.
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On December 17 2012 02:04 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 02:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:44 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Just read up, he's hopped onto about 4-5 different people for no other reason than it seemed to be a good idea based on one previous post or because someone said it was a good idea.


I notify him of this, I urge him to make a case:
Why don't you make a case, then, if it's scummy behavior?

Because people who play are meant to read the thread, I made the point of "why", if you read you'll understand the justification. Whether or not you agree is up to you.


Town want to convince others that their top scumread is actually scum. Presenting a case with justification does that. Parking your vote on Hapa and telling people to go searching on their own isn't going to convince people.

One read through is enough. I thought that by definition, in order to participate, you'd have to be willing to read the thread. By saying you're not doing so, you just discredit your entire argument about thrawn even though some aspects may be valid.


He denies, says we should just be reading the thread... He even twists my words and says that I wasn't reading! I never once mentioned that I didn't read. He's throwing his own arrogant assumption upon me, because I'm telling him he should justify his read.

Morb is TOWN DKLSDAF!


This is Eywa's entire reasoning for his townread on Morb... Oh wait, there is none. Nowhere can I find his reasoning for not lynching him. He just says:
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On December 17 2012 04:42 Eywa- wrote:
Civilian lynch: imminent.

and
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On December 17 2012 05:04 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm kinda feeling an Eywa lynch at the moment. His "case" on me aside, this post rather scares me:

On December 17 2012 04:42 Eywa- wrote:
Civilian lynch: imminent.


The hell is this?

Means you guys are going to lynch an acolyte... Also, you're reacting offensively to the fact I called you out, yet you expect it due to the nature of your posts. Your entire strategy seems to be around looking like a mafia member.


Why does he think Morb is town?

Then, he uses this garbage reasoning to gain town credit by flaming everyone.
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On December 17 2012 06:09 Eywa- wrote:
Q: Which townie predicted this?
A: Eywa-


I'd like to thank the other civilians for not realising that there are 3 scum and that the votes simply had a very low % chance of adding up to Morbidius being a mafia member.

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On December 17 2012 06:16 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:15 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:14 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:09 Hapahauli wrote:
And thrawn, your last-minute antics read a lot like you didn't give much of a shit about who got lynched. Care to explain your actions a bit?

Your last minute antics could have saved the townie... Care to explain yourself? I need to know this as well (since it's not blatantly obvious)...


Let me answer this question with another question:

Was it in town's best interest to no-lynch?

Q: Lynching an acolyte is better than no-lynch?
A: Is the goal of the game to lynch your own members? (well not yours, but ours)


Again, he states that Morb was on "obvious townie" in order to attack Hapa:
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On December 17 2012 07:59 Eywa- wrote:
Let's do the math,

First you target 5-6 people without justification and just ask for people to jump on them

Second, you argue to keep votes on a certain person who was obviously a civilian

Said civilian is lynched, you run off saying it was the right decision because it's best to lynch someone than nobody

And now you're targeting me with really no grounds to go off of other than a simple grudge.


Why was Morb an "obvious townie"? He never gives any explanation. Only to scum was he an obvious town.

In addition, Eywa also called Kush an obvious obvtownie but then later said he was suspicious. How does he know all these people are town? He even called DYH obviously a civilian. Either he's just blind or redic confirmation biased.

Y'all SUCK, 50% error rates, 0% finding scum rates! Jeeze!
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On December 17 2012 10:40 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Kush
On December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
...
You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things.


Townies aren't scared of posting in a spamfest, since they have nothing to hide. Mafia however, are. The last 25 minutes were a time that we had no solid lynch candidate - a townie would push his top scumread to get lynched here.

Instead he did nothing. He didn't push me, and he didn't even defend Morbidius. Yet after the lynch, he goes "oh welp I told you I was right." That's pretty fucking scummy.

There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4


That's ridiculous. The guy was foaming at the mouth that I was scum, and didn't push his scumread. That makes no sense, regardless of how feasible me getting lynched was.

Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time.


Scum certainly can latch onto a popular choice, but scum don't always do that. In fact, making a huge case on a candidate who has no chance of getting lynched is another very popular choice amongst more active scum players. What better way to prevent a town from consolidating and create chaos in the thread than bringing up an entirely new suspicion at the 11th hour?

It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you.
Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze?


There is nothing else to analyze. He's scum.

He also scumslipped, which you've ignored for like the billionth time.
On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
...
Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.

I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.


I did post in the last 25 minutes and laid more effort to convince people than most.

Persisting on something that is impossible is insanity.

It was in the town's best interest to not consolidate, you lead them to consolidate on various townies rather than mafia members... How is that in any way noble?

You really have no grounds to accuse anyone, you're guaranteed at this point to have AT least a 50% error rate (given how many people you've accused and you've already promoted the death of a towns person who had nothing on his record to make him look suspicious.


What does Hapa's record of finding scum have anything to do with him being town? This is not a way to find scum, and it's anti-town in general. He's just attacking Hapa for promoting the lynch of Morb. It makes no sense.

same thing here:
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On December 17 2012 10:58 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 10:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 10:40 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Kush
On December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
...
You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things.


Townies aren't scared of posting in a spamfest, since they have nothing to hide. Mafia however, are. The last 25 minutes were a time that we had no solid lynch candidate - a townie would push his top scumread to get lynched here.

Instead he did nothing. He didn't push me, and he didn't even defend Morbidius. Yet after the lynch, he goes "oh welp I told you I was right." That's pretty fucking scummy.

There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4


That's ridiculous. The guy was foaming at the mouth that I was scum, and didn't push his scumread. That makes no sense, regardless of how feasible me getting lynched was.

Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time.


Scum certainly can latch onto a popular choice, but scum don't always do that. In fact, making a huge case on a candidate who has no chance of getting lynched is another very popular choice amongst more active scum players. What better way to prevent a town from consolidating and create chaos in the thread than bringing up an entirely new suspicion at the 11th hour?

It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you.
Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze?


There is nothing else to analyze. He's scum.

He also scumslipped, which you've ignored for like the billionth time.
On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
...
Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.

I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.


I did post in the last 25 minutes and laid more effort to convince people than most.

Persisting on something that is impossible is insanity.


Your efforts in the last 25 minutes were "please sway your votes." If you think that's a contribution, then I can only shake my head.

So what on earth were you trying to achieve yesterday? You were calling me scum for shits and giggles without the slightest intention to push for my lynch? That's exactly what you're saying right now.

It was in the town's best interest to not consolidate, you lead them to consolidate on various townies rather than mafia members... How is that in any way noble?


How on earth do you know that the people I voted for were townies?

You really have no grounds to accuse anyone, you're guaranteed at this point to have AT least a 50% error rate (given how many people you've accused and you've already promoted the death of a towns person who had nothing on his record to make him look suspicious.


And this makes you not scum how? The way I see it, there's a 99% chance you're scum, and a 1% chance you're an idiot.

I was calling you scum so that people would see reason today after you lynched a townie.

It's a guarantee that 1/2 the people you voted for yesterday were town simply due to the amount of men of god... Probability of all 3 scum being among them is minimal... So, statistically speaking you probably have a 17-33% guess rate... Which is in no way something for people to lay trust in.


Then, he goes and keeps face-banging into me about how I haven't found scum yet. Note: He hasn't either. What reason does he think I'm scum otherwise? Nothing. He just trolls around the thread going:
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On December 18 2012 10:55 Eywa- wrote:
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On December 18 2012 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC

Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?


Was too busy yesterday focusing on Eywa bullshit, etc. I believe I mentioned somewhere that he posted his list of scumreads --- which didn't include me. I wondered at this, because he thought I was scum / voted for me D1.

If he hadn't died, I'd still have a scumread on his ass, and probably push him second to Eywa. Obviously that's not going to happen right now.

Obviously the people you push for are generally scum... Given you've never yet picked one out your record is about... 0%

On December 18 2012 10:56 Eywa- wrote:
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On December 18 2012 10:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Screaming that he's lying =/= good way to figure out if someone's scum. Be quiet while I try and get productive answers from people.

I'm just saying, when someone has a 0% guess rate, they're generally scum... It's not that hard to link the dots.

On December 18 2012 11:02 Eywa- wrote:
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On December 18 2012 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:58 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:52 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC

Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?

thrawn was proven innocent, Cc just doesn't know the difference between left and right.


LOL this is a clarity-class scum post right here. The opportune moment post.

And you, Eywa, obviously don't know the difference between town and scum. Well, maybe you do, because you are scum.

That statement stands more for you because none of my guesses have been proven wrong, all of yours have... I think your problem is with the understanding of basic mathematics.


You're such an idiot, please stop talking scum.

I'm sorry, is the math of finding out who has a lower guess rate than 0% difficult?


Let's run a simple exercise... I have 10 apples, I give you none. How many less apples could I have given you?

On December 18 2012 11:03 Eywa- wrote:
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On December 18 2012 11:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:58 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:52 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC

Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?

thrawn was proven innocent, Cc just doesn't know the difference between left and right.


LOL this is a clarity-class scum post right here. The opportune moment post.

And you, Eywa, obviously don't know the difference between town and scum. Well, maybe you do, because you are scum.

That statement stands more for you because none of my guesses have been proven wrong, all of yours have... I think your problem is with the understanding of basic mathematics.


You're such an idiot, please stop talking scum.


Just ignore him. This conversation is between you and me right now, and I'm not interested in having Eywa shit up the thread again.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise his PROVEN 0% guess rate was a secret.

On December 18 2012 11:10 Eywa- wrote:
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On December 18 2012 11:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:58 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC

Looking through your filter, you had a rather large case on thrawn early. While you've explained why you didn't push him during the lynch, you never followed up on your case. You never mention your stance on thrawn after D1 - why is that? What was your stance on thrawn yesterday?


Was too busy yesterday focusing on Eywa bullshit, etc. I believe I mentioned somewhere that he posted his list of scumreads --- which didn't include me. I wondered at this, because he thought I was scum / voted for me D1.

If he hadn't died, I'd still have a scumread on his ass, and probably push him second to Eywa. Obviously that's not going to happen right now.


Well you didn't do much yesterday other than address "Eywa bullshit" and hard defend me. The lack of scumhunting outside your D1 case on thrawn is rather disturbing. And tunneling Eywa really doesn't satisfy the "scumhunting" quota.


Whatever. Tired of this " I didn't do anything D1" Bullshit. Neither did Eywa. I'm busy helping amend this fucking school shooting in CT, maybe you've heard of it? I don't have time to deal with you fucking retards (Eywa, not you Hapa) Go die if you don't understand it, because I honestly don't give a shit anymore.

I'm just going to park my vote on Eywa, because he's scum. Join me if you want to.

I just don't know what to say. If Eywa is town I have no faith in the intelligence of humanity.

/endrage

You mean... In the intelligence of a being which has yet to guess right? you're still at 0%

On December 18 2012 11:12 Eywa- wrote:
P.S. I'm too fucking busy for this game and your bullshit, stop asking me (The only question I've been asked all game) shit because I've had enough of this game! I'm going to shoot a Civilian and go back to helping out my School. Fuck you guys, I know how to count an 0/3 is definitely higher than 0%! FUCK

What does this have ANYTHING to do with me being scum? He's been asked many times to provide a case on why exactly he thinks I'm mafia... but he refuses to do so. Just screams SCUM SCUM SCUM at me. Sorry, bro, you're wrong. You're the one at 0% now.

Flip-Flop on JX

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On December 18 2012 07:26 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:22 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:21 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm not convinced on Mr Cheese. I want to see JieXian dead first and foremost.

Your cling to defend him suggests one thing, we have to kill him... and then you... or you and then him... Either way, rage on sir!


I've posted why JieXian is scum. Several times. In my filter.

JieXian wasn't voting for people he thought was scum. He voted the top scumread of his top scumread (thrawn, instead of voting CC). When I called him out for it, he flipped a shit and omgus'd me. He's scum dawg.

Let's not forget your scum slip...

Your uncontrollable rage...

Your obsessions which are generally wrong.

You've never guessed anything right in this game, let the big boys call the shots now and wait for your turn to be executed. I'm not against voting off Jie Xian, but I want to kill Cheesecake first because he's actually mafia.

JX would be a great lynch!
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On December 18 2012 07:30 Eywa- wrote:
Here is my voting list:

Given that Cheesecurd is 100% scum and we need a scum gone, he's dead now.

Given that Hapahauli wants to have a shot at proving innocence before he is bi-headed, next goes jie xian

If Jie is guilty, we kill Kush, if Jie is not guilty, we kill hapahauli

1) Cheesedip
2) Jie Xian <--- Second in line to be lynched
3) hapahauli


JX probs scum, gotta lynch him after dat cheeseguy
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On December 18 2012 08:16 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:12 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:
This is part of the reason I don't want to lynch Mr. CC. JieXian pushes CC in a horrendously scummy way. Think's he's scum, then places his vote on thrawn (flipped town) to "dare" Mr. CC to vote him? Yeah ok.

actually that's false as proven by my post about him, he clearly voted for someone he didn't think was scum last time since no one would vote for his suspect.


Last post on JieXian or on CC?

On CC, I don't think Jie Xian is scum... He's saved too many townspeople or attempted to.


These posts are in the time frame of an hour...
WHY THE FLIP-FLOP BRAH?

Scumslips, etc.

He's made them. For the sake of brevity, I won't repost them.


General Thread Contribution


He has 13 pages where he has managed to do what? Tunnel me and Hapa and call us two + Djo the scumteam. Lol. Most of his filter is inflammatory remarks towards the entire town, or me in particular. It's disgusting and so anti-town I can barely describe it without a red pen.

Just something I noticed

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On December 20 2012 04:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 04:49 kushm4sta wrote:
scum please silver bullet me lol

They used it on Hapahauli.


*Cringe* How does he know...

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

THERE IS ONE SAVING GRACE

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On December 17 2012 11:31 DoYouHas wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hapa, Eywa is totes always right about everything. Shouldn't we listen to him?


You had better hope we are right about Eywa, because if we aren't you look exactly like a gloating scum who is buddying hapa.


DYH looks like he was posturing for a Eywa lynch. He knows he would flip town, and have justification to lynch me. This is the only reason I would consider not lynching Eywa right now, because of this post from the confirmed scum.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Okay, so some other stuff.

DYH had a case on JX day 1 and was very quick to put his vote on him. For this reason, I don't think JX is scum -- purely on association. I don't think his scumbuddy would be that quick to bus him: JX was in very real danger of being lynched D1.

That said, it could have been a quick bus, but personally as scum I would have waited / pushed a different lynch. His case and vote were too early to be scum bussing scum imo.


It's very convincing, especially given that you can come up with more mild scum associations for every player in this game... In fact, the offenses you point out are so weak, it's incredible that you actually are convinced that you're not just upset and tunneling. Even Hapa has had bigger scum slips than anything you'll find in there.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:29 GMT
#2422
On December 23 2012 04:25 JieXian wrote:
eywa if you don't plan on ignoring my question please answer me so I can make my decision and have a nap

There's absolutely no reason to vote one over the other. For instance, Djodref didn't even seem to think DYH was scum while every other time he was so passionate about his scum claims. I attack people with minimal proof behind it and poke at every slip in their rage... I know I'm not scum, but from your point of view, assuming you are town, there's no advantage to voting either.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:30 GMT
#2423
On December 23 2012 04:27 Hapahauli wrote:
A list of Eywa's analysis and scumhunting today:



Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref


If this isn't clue enough to lynch Eywa, I don't know what is.

His posture early game was hyper aggressive and face-smashing into people. Now he's just too timid and sheepy because he knows that I've got him pinned and he's guilty.

Scum want to push this Djo lynch right now.

I can make my posture be whatever I want it to... It's not difficult, you can't see my expression or read if I'm lying.

If I tell you that

I expect this game to end in scum victory

and I tell you

I think Hapahauli is scum

and then I tell you I am only telling the truth in one...

You can't tell which it is, you can't tell if the last statement is true either, there's no emotion put into any of these.




Otherwise, the entirety of D3 he's been floundering around helpless to identify rationale a single one of his reads.

I haven't offered any scum reads this game... So D3 isn't special.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#2429
On December 23 2012 04:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Eywa, tell me, what do you think of Kush and his play leading up to the DYH lynch.

It matches up with the rest of his play this game, you didn't think he was scum before, I wouldn't change my opinion now if I were you. If you did think he was scum before however, then he's still scum now... I don't see why I'd have to tell you this, though your processing functions seem to be off.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#2432
On December 23 2012 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa, I need an answer to this please:

Can you please elaborate on this statement?
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


This doesn't make very much sense. The only person that was targeting MrZ was DoYouHas. DYH was also the other lynch option. If you thought scum was "targeting" MrZ, why would you object to lynching DYH, who was the only person targeting MrZ at the time?

I had no idea that doyouhas was scum, your assumption was that I knew dyh was scum despite the fact that it was clearly indicated otherwise.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:37 GMT
#2434
On December 23 2012 04:32 ghost_403 wrote:
Eywa- is playing terribly, and I don't think it's alignment indicative.

Djo is playing scummy because he's scum.

I'm off, catch you guys on the flip side.

Not really, if you look at it closely, it is very unlikely for a scum to attract this much attention to himself.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:15 GMT
#2458
Well,

For there to be a lynch, Djodref has to flip, given that he is the other option, I hope town wins. Good Luck in the rest of the game.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:23 GMT
#2469
On December 23 2012 05:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 05:21 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:18 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:14 JieXian wrote:
wth no, it was dp. I was thinking thrawn was mafia the whole of D1 remember


Oh, well that's pretty inconsequential early-game pressure vote, as opposed to trying to get your top town read LYNCHED.


? inconsequential early-game pressure vote? thrawn? how is this related to eywa


Your vote on DP was an inconsequential early-game pressure vote.

Whereas Eywas vote on MrZ was an attempt to ride a counterwagon against confirmed scum (DYH).

Though, DYH decided to vote MrZ rather than Mr.Cheesecake.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:25 GMT
#2471
On December 23 2012 05:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 05:23 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:21 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:18 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:14 JieXian wrote:
wth no, it was dp. I was thinking thrawn was mafia the whole of D1 remember


Oh, well that's pretty inconsequential early-game pressure vote, as opposed to trying to get your top town read LYNCHED.


? inconsequential early-game pressure vote? thrawn? how is this related to eywa


Your vote on DP was an inconsequential early-game pressure vote.

Whereas Eywas vote on MrZ was an attempt to ride a counterwagon against confirmed scum (DYH).

Though, DYH decided to vote MrZ rather than Mr.Cheesecake.


Doesn't change the fact that you voted a town read to prevent DYH from getting lynched.

You're right, however, your stating of that fact has no value either.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:34 GMT
#2481
On December 23 2012 05:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa, I need an answer to this please:

Can you please elaborate on this statement?
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


This doesn't make very much sense. The only person that was targeting MrZ was DoYouHas. DYH was also the other lynch option. If you thought scum was "targeting" MrZ, why would you object to lynching DYH, who was the only person targeting MrZ at the time?

I think you're either drunk or also incapable of thinking... Of course, I went after MrZ because I thought scum was targeting him which is also why I said "I THINK DYH IS TOWN"... Like, please, don't ask questions that have been answered, it's redundant.

The only reason I voted DYH was because I knew I had time to switch my vote, at no point did I have any intention on staying there... Again, please read the dialog.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:35 GMT
#2482
On December 23 2012 05:33 JieXian wrote:
Ok I'm going to stop defending eywa until he answers the only question I have of him, if he ever does

Dunno what your question is.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:35 GMT
#2483
On December 23 2012 05:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 05:33 JieXian wrote:
Ok I'm going to stop defending eywa until he answers the only question I have of him, if he ever does


Well good luck. I've been trying to get a straight answer from him for the last 48 hours.

I've answered it 3 times now, you're just incompetent.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:39 GMT
#2486
On December 23 2012 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 05:34 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa, I need an answer to this please:

Can you please elaborate on this statement?
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


This doesn't make very much sense. The only person that was targeting MrZ was DoYouHas. DYH was also the other lynch option. If you thought scum was "targeting" MrZ, why would you object to lynching DYH, who was the only person targeting MrZ at the time?

I think you're either drunk or also incapable of thinking... Of course, I went after MrZ because I thought scum was targeting him which is also why I said "I THINK DYH IS TOWN"... Like, please, don't ask questions that have been answered, it's redundant.

The only reason I voted DYH was because I knew I had time to switch my vote, at no point did I have any intention on staying there... Again, please read the dialog.


Apparently you thought MrZ was being targeted by mafia. Who is that mafia then? No one? Because there wasn't a single other person going after MrZ.

You just quoted that I thought both MrZ and DYH were innocent... I don't know how one can argue if you're tunneling so hard to the point of not remembering your previous post.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:40 GMT
#2487
FYI, forgetting entirely what you're posting, 2 minutes after doing so because you want someone lynched and you're just flinging shit everywhere is a sign of scum.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:42 GMT
#2490
On December 23 2012 05:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Who was the mafia that was "targeting" MrZ then?

I have no idea what you're talking about scum.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#2496
On December 23 2012 05:41 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 05:35 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:33 JieXian wrote:
Ok I'm going to stop defending eywa until he answers the only question I have of him, if he ever does

Dunno what your question is.


Please explain this.

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 06:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa-
On December 20 2012 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
Djodref, Mr.Cheesecake, Hapahauli

Who's assisting these guys?

On December 20 2012 04:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 04:49 kushm4sta wrote:
scum please silver bullet me lol

They used it on Hapahauli.


He needs to answer for this. It's very difficult to rationalize this for a town perspective. Behavior suggests he's town, however, him being absent from the thread this cycle is very concerning. Don't let him off the hook.


Shrodinger's Cat
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:46 GMT
#2497
On December 23 2012 05:45 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 05:41 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:35 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:33 JieXian wrote:
Ok I'm going to stop defending eywa until he answers the only question I have of him, if he ever does

Dunno what your question is.


Please explain this.

On December 21 2012 06:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa-
On December 20 2012 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
Djodref, Mr.Cheesecake, Hapahauli

Who's assisting these guys?

On December 20 2012 04:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 04:49 kushm4sta wrote:
scum please silver bullet me lol

They used it on Hapahauli.


He needs to answer for this. It's very difficult to rationalize this for a town perspective. Behavior suggests he's town, however, him being absent from the thread this cycle is very concerning. Don't let him off the hook.


Shrodinger's Cat

or...

There are several scenarios.


Scenario 1:
Hapahauli is town, got shot, didn't get blue

Scenario 2:
The scum include Hapahauli in which case revealing a second bullet would mean they didn't shoot Hapahauli, therefore would put him on the block. They don't use second bullet just yet.

Scenario 3:
Scum shot 2 people other than Hapahauli, this scenario includes both hapahauli as scum or town.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 20:48 GMT
#2501
On December 23 2012 05:43 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


Who was the mafia that was "targeting" MrZ then?

The only person "Targeting" MrZ was DYH.

Huh... That was a typo... "I thought scum were targeting MrZ, therefore I was hoping for a no-lynch by voting MrZ"... If you read that without thinking it's a typo then you probably don't understand that the statement is impossible. substitute DYH for MrZ in that statement you quoted and it makes sense.
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