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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 24 2012 02:36 GMT
#2821
This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.

Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.

This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way.
-If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge.
-You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 02:45 GMT
#2822
On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote:
This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.

Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.

This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way.
-If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge.
-You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.


The basic idea, is that we can confirm a townie with witchcraft votes. For example, let's say we wanted to confirm you as town/scum/whatever. I'd order you to vote for Player A first. Then I'd order another player to vote for Player B second. If Player A wins witchcraft, you are town. If player B wins witchcraft, you are scum. If no player wins witchcraft, you're both scum.

And if I was red, I wouldn't call ghost anything. I'd just lead a mislynch on him.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 02:46 GMT
#2823
There are more complicated versions of that as well. But the gist is that via witchcraft mechanics and voting, we can determine a player's alignment. Or possibly more.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 02:48 GMT
#2824
Hm I'm lost again. Need to do a larger filter-dive sometime tomorrow.

Fortunately we have a 72 hour day. I'll let y'all know what I come up with.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 03:23 GMT
#2825
On December 20 2012 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:
you can tell in that quote I was looking to paint him as not that scummy. How i was like-- he LOOKED scummy but i haven't looked at him in a long time so maybe he's not so scummy anymore


Was looking through Kush's filter and this made me lol.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 03:27 GMT
#2826
For my own reference:
On December 17 2012 06:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Final Vote Count!

Morbidius (8) - Drazak, MrZentor, DP, MrCheesecake, DoYouHas, threesr, Hapahauli, kushm4sta
threesr (1) - Djodref kushm4sta
Mr. Cheesecake (1) - thrawn
MrZentor (1) - Morbidius
Hapahauli (1) - Eywa-
thrawn2112 (1) - Jiexian

*Kush was a last-minute vote on morbidius (from threesr)

On December 20 2012 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Vote Count!

DoYouHas (5) - Hapahauli, MrZentor, Mr. Cheesecake, Djodref, kush
MrZentor (2) - DoYouHas, Eywa-, JieXian
Mr. Cheesecake (0) - JieXian DoYouHas Eywa-

Not Voting (1) - Drazak

*JieXian was a last-minute vote on MrZ
*Kush pushed a Djo lynch for most of D2 before settling on DYH

On December 23 2012 06:54 Keirathi wrote:
Vote Count!

Djodref (1) - ghost_403, Eywa, JieXian, kushm4sta
Ewya- (4) - Hapahauli, Djodref, MrCheesecake, kushm4sta
Hapahauli (2) - Eywa, JieXian


a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 04:04 GMT
#2827
Okay.

So we're at a 6-player mylo. The only sensible option here is to no-lynch.
##unvote
##Vote no-lynch

So the secret to this game is to figure out whether Djo is scum or not. If Djo is scum, I'm not sure who the scum-buddy is, but we'll lynch Djo and find out later. However, if Djo is town, the scumteam is very likely Kush/JX. While I initially dismissed the idea of Kush/JX initially (due to Kush proposing a last-minute JX lynch on D2), it is plausible considering that Kush never really followed-through with the idea.

So here's my proposed plan:

1) Djo will vote for 1 player in a witchcraft election.
2) For insurance purposes, I will vote for a 2nd player in the witchcraft elections (just so that if Djo is scum, someone will get elected)
3) No one else votes WC tonight

We will be able to confirm if Djo is town or not. Thoughts? Also please propose a player that Djo and I will vote.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 24 2012 04:10 GMT
#2828
then won't be it be a tie?
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 04:10 GMT
#2829
Djo votes me, you vote Ghost. But Djo does it first. If he's scum, Ghost will win the election. If djo is town, I will win Cool?

Hapa, you are too town looking to be scum. If you are scum holy crap well played you deserve a medal. Kush and jx is more likely imo... I'll prepare a little something tomorrow when im at a computer.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 04:11 GMT
#2830
Whoever gets it sent in first wins. so if djo sends in his vote for me first, i win. If Ghost wins, that means djo is scum or Hapa sent in his vote first.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 04:13 GMT
#2831
I can agree to that proposition Mr.CC

I have currently NOT sent my vote in.

Also, both of you please vote no-lynch today. It's 6 player mylo.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 04:14 GMT
#2832
##Vote: No-lynch

canceling my witchcraft vote right now
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 04:20 GMT
#2833
I'm really, really happy now that scum decided not to use their second bullet.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 04:20 GMT
#2834
Errr that scum decided to USE their second bullet.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 04:23 GMT
#2835
OMFG HAPA HOW DO YOU KNOW SCUM SHOT TWICE WTF SCUM LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH

/jk

In all seriousness this seems foolproof if we can coordinate it correctly. Whoever gets NK'd will be very telling as well. IF scum decide to not NK, we can just repeat this process.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 04:26 GMT
#2836
Though what if scum didnt shoot twice, and you're trying to bait a blue witchhunter kill and then NK for the win? Ahhhh if that's the plan you're awesome scum Hapa :p
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 04:29 GMT
#2837
On December 24 2012 13:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Though what if scum didnt shoot twice, and you're trying to bait a blue witchhunter kill and then NK for the win? Ahhhh if that's the plan you're awesome scum Hapa :p


I find it funny that so many people are infinitely paranoid of my scum-play, when I've played a grand total of 2 games as scum, and got lynched D1 in my most recent scum-game >>
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 04:33 GMT
#2838
g Hapa, idk you're just awesome like that and stuff. I'm afraid of just getting completely roflstomped by your amazing scum play. but srsly the fact that we are agreeing to do this is pretty indicative that we're town and we know we can be assholes with this nolynch. The fact that Kush d oesnt want to manipulate this lynch is also saying something...

Kush/jx... if you want to concede now thats cool so we don't have to wait forever.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 24 2012 04:37 GMT
#2839
On December 24 2012 13:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
g Hapa, idk you're just awesome like that and stuff. I'm afraid of just getting completely roflstomped by your amazing scum play. but srsly the fact that we are agreeing to do this is pretty indicative that we're town and we know we can be assholes with this nolynch. The fact that Kush d oesnt want to manipulate this lynch is also saying something...

Kush/jx... if you want to concede now thats cool so we don't have to wait forever.


Kush seems... really scared of this based on his posts so far. JX and Djo haven't posted, so we'll see how they react.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 24 2012 04:38 GMT
#2840
Im pretty sure djo will be all for it. No reason he shouldnt be if he's town. This will confirm him, ill get blue etc etc
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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