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This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.
Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.
This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way. -If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge. -You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.
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On December 24 2012 11:36 kushm4sta wrote: This witchcraft manipulation thing: Can you summarize your proposal so I can just read it and understand wtf you are saying? Because right now it doesn't make sense to me at all.
Cheesecake/djo does not feel right. Cheesecake's hard defense of djo definitely has scum motivation, but it's not a scum-like thing to do.
This shit with you jking me and preventing a NK. It rubs me the wrong way. -If I were scum hands down I would kill ghost. Confirmed town at this stage of the game is huge. -You are wrong about ghost flipping green confirms you green. Hypothetically if you are red and ghost is green, what else would you do? You wouldn't call him red if he's green.
The basic idea, is that we can confirm a townie with witchcraft votes. For example, let's say we wanted to confirm you as town/scum/whatever. I'd order you to vote for Player A first. Then I'd order another player to vote for Player B second. If Player A wins witchcraft, you are town. If player B wins witchcraft, you are scum. If no player wins witchcraft, you're both scum.
And if I was red, I wouldn't call ghost anything. I'd just lead a mislynch on him.
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There are more complicated versions of that as well. But the gist is that via witchcraft mechanics and voting, we can determine a player's alignment. Or possibly more.
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Hm I'm lost again. Need to do a larger filter-dive sometime tomorrow.
Fortunately we have a 72 hour day. I'll let y'all know what I come up with.
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On December 20 2012 05:57 kushm4sta wrote: you can tell in that quote I was looking to paint him as not that scummy. How i was like-- he LOOKED scummy but i haven't looked at him in a long time so maybe he's not so scummy anymore
Was looking through Kush's filter and this made me lol.
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For my own reference:
On December 17 2012 06:05 Blazinghand wrote: Final Vote Count!
Morbidius (8) - Drazak, MrZentor, DP, MrCheesecake, DoYouHas, threesr, Hapahauli, kushm4sta threesr (1) - Djodref kushm4sta Mr. Cheesecake (1) - thrawn MrZentor (1) - Morbidius Hapahauli (1) - Eywa- thrawn2112 (1) - Jiexian *Kush was a last-minute vote on morbidius (from threesr)
On December 20 2012 06:43 Keirathi wrote: Vote Count!
DoYouHas (5) - Hapahauli, MrZentor, Mr. Cheesecake, Djodref, kush MrZentor (2) - DoYouHas, Eywa-, JieXian Mr. Cheesecake (0) - JieXian DoYouHas Eywa-
Not Voting (1) - Drazak *JieXian was a last-minute vote on MrZ *Kush pushed a Djo lynch for most of D2 before settling on DYH
On December 23 2012 06:54 Keirathi wrote: Vote Count!
Djodref (1) - ghost_403, Eywa, JieXian, kushm4sta Ewya- (4) - Hapahauli, Djodref, MrCheesecake, kushm4sta Hapahauli (2) - Eywa, JieXian
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Okay.
So we're at a 6-player mylo. The only sensible option here is to no-lynch. ##unvote ##Vote no-lynch
So the secret to this game is to figure out whether Djo is scum or not. If Djo is scum, I'm not sure who the scum-buddy is, but we'll lynch Djo and find out later. However, if Djo is town, the scumteam is very likely Kush/JX. While I initially dismissed the idea of Kush/JX initially (due to Kush proposing a last-minute JX lynch on D2), it is plausible considering that Kush never really followed-through with the idea.
So here's my proposed plan:
1) Djo will vote for 1 player in a witchcraft election. 2) For insurance purposes, I will vote for a 2nd player in the witchcraft elections (just so that if Djo is scum, someone will get elected) 3) No one else votes WC tonight
We will be able to confirm if Djo is town or not. Thoughts? Also please propose a player that Djo and I will vote.
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then won't be it be a tie?
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Djo votes me, you vote Ghost. But Djo does it first. If he's scum, Ghost will win the election. If djo is town, I will win Cool?
Hapa, you are too town looking to be scum. If you are scum holy crap well played you deserve a medal. Kush and jx is more likely imo... I'll prepare a little something tomorrow when im at a computer.
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Whoever gets it sent in first wins. so if djo sends in his vote for me first, i win. If Ghost wins, that means djo is scum or Hapa sent in his vote first.
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I can agree to that proposition Mr.CC
I have currently NOT sent my vote in.
Also, both of you please vote no-lynch today. It's 6 player mylo.
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##Vote: No-lynch
canceling my witchcraft vote right now
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I'm really, really happy now that scum decided not to use their second bullet.
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Errr that scum decided to USE their second bullet.
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OMFG HAPA HOW DO YOU KNOW SCUM SHOT TWICE WTF SCUM LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH
/jk
In all seriousness this seems foolproof if we can coordinate it correctly. Whoever gets NK'd will be very telling as well. IF scum decide to not NK, we can just repeat this process.
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Though what if scum didnt shoot twice, and you're trying to bait a blue witchhunter kill and then NK for the win? Ahhhh if that's the plan you're awesome scum Hapa :p
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On December 24 2012 13:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Though what if scum didnt shoot twice, and you're trying to bait a blue witchhunter kill and then NK for the win? Ahhhh if that's the plan you're awesome scum Hapa :p
I find it funny that so many people are infinitely paranoid of my scum-play, when I've played a grand total of 2 games as scum, and got lynched D1 in my most recent scum-game >>
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g Hapa, idk you're just awesome like that and stuff. I'm afraid of just getting completely roflstomped by your amazing scum play. but srsly the fact that we are agreeing to do this is pretty indicative that we're town and we know we can be assholes with this nolynch. The fact that Kush d oesnt want to manipulate this lynch is also saying something...
Kush/jx... if you want to concede now thats cool so we don't have to wait forever.
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On December 24 2012 13:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: g Hapa, idk you're just awesome like that and stuff. I'm afraid of just getting completely roflstomped by your amazing scum play. but srsly the fact that we are agreeing to do this is pretty indicative that we're town and we know we can be assholes with this nolynch. The fact that Kush d oesnt want to manipulate this lynch is also saying something...
Kush/jx... if you want to concede now thats cool so we don't have to wait forever.
Kush seems... really scared of this based on his posts so far. JX and Djo haven't posted, so we'll see how they react.
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Im pretty sure djo will be all for it. No reason he shouldnt be if he's town. This will confirm him, ill get blue etc etc
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