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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 14 2012 15:28 GMT
#1681
Palmar, I was scum with Djodref in Looney Lynching and his play in that game was much more timid and submissive - his response to pressure was completely different and he repeatedly played the newbie card.

Just throwin that out there in case you lied and are actually reading my posts.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 15:31 GMT
#1682
On December 15 2012 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Wtf is up with you marv, can you find me one thing that could even suggest that BL is town?


Not really, no. But Tunkeg is plain scummy and quite a bit of what Palmar has to say about Djodref is correct, so I'd prefer lynching him over BL.

To recap from my post last night, the reason I'm not at all convinced by BL being scum is I fail to really see the agenda, when I played scum in NMM2 he tried to deflect the lynch OFF scum, here he contributed to it. It's not much but there are better options than BL.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2012 15:31 GMT
#1683
I just read some parts of BL's filter, and to be completely fair, I misunderstood one post of his, thinking he was defending Adam, when he was it seems defending debears.... I think, I'm not sure yet which it was. It doesn't change the fact that he said something that was not correct, as indicated here:

On December 11 2012 23:51 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:33 Bluelightz wrote:
On December 11 2012 23:03 Palmar wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:42 Bluelightz wrote:
Vivax, do you understand the difference between the both? dabears post is only a simple thing of pointing out/answering a question, however Adam has pushed thrawn heavily. See the difference?

Also, dabear if you could explain/join this talk it would be nice.


In what universe did this happen?



Woops. By that I mean he has more posts on thrawn then a simple point on someone


He has a ton of pointless inquiries that never became anything more than just him asking a bunch of stupid questions anyone with half a brain could've answered themselves.


But when I initially read the first post in this exchange I understood Bluelightz to be defending Adam based on him being accusative, but I missed this exchange:

On December 11 2012 22:10 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 22:09 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:06 Bluelightz wrote:

Is voting necessary when one has suspicions on someone? No. It's up to them when they vote.


By saying that you're actually defending Adam against dabears first accusations. Dunno if you even realize that.


I'm defending dabears first accusation.


Which leads me to believe he was defending dabears, and consequently makes him look a lot better.
Computer says mafia
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 14 2012 15:32 GMT
#1684
I mean.... yeah every post Tunkeg makes has been "scummy" but a lot of his posts scream "newbie" as well.
Does anyone know if he's played much before this? Going through his profile real quick it's 3-4 games but they're fairly old.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 15:33 GMT
#1685
On December 15 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I mean.... yeah every post Tunkeg makes has been "scummy" but a lot of his posts scream "newbie" as well.
Does anyone know if he's played much before this? Going through his profile real quick it's 3-4 games but they're fairly old.


He's been around long enough that I'm certainly not giving him a newbie pass.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2012 15:34 GMT
#1686
On December 15 2012 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Wtf is up with you marv, can you find me one thing that could even suggest that BL is town?


Look what I found. Just bringing this in here!

On December 11 2012 21:24 Vivax wrote:
I've read Adams filter.

So basically, the case on him seems to be built on "the change of tone in his post".
That post with changed tone dabears mentioned was written one day after the last ones, so it's likely that he's writing like that cause he's not heated up like the day before.

That day, he finished into an OMGUS fight with dabears, where they basically both vote for each other cause they argue about having to vote for the people you lean scum on.
And this is where the matter stinks.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&currentpage=9#171

This is dabeers post about Adam. OH SHIT HE'S SUSPICIOUS CAUSE HE'S NOT VOTING FOR THRAWN.
Look at the post, look at the voting thread, look at the reactions.
Adam voted before debears upon being accused by him of not voting thrawn, meanwhile, dabears accused Adam of something he himself did.
Only clarity so far has expressed criticism of this case against Adam, now I will, too.

1.The case is shit
2.The case is shit
3.The case is shit

Being this a shit case accepted by many people, I think there's scum trying to sheep in it.



Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2012 15:35 GMT
#1687
Clearly your ability to judge anything shouldn't be relied upon too heavily, since it's actually you who are shit, not the case Vivax.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
December 14 2012 15:35 GMT
#1688
I'm leaving my vote carved on BL, even grush's being more productive than that guy.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2012 15:36 GMT
#1689
On December 15 2012 00:35 Vivax wrote:
I'm leaving my vote carved on BL, even grush's being more productive than that guy.


And both of them are more productive than you.
Computer says mafia
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 14 2012 15:36 GMT
#1690
It's posts like this that I can't get over:
On December 11 2012 07:56 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:49 Vivax wrote:
Tunkeg, do you think Djordref acted scummy in front of thrawns claim?


By scummy in front of thrawn's claim, do you mean before thrawn claimed? If so, no, because he didn't post before thrawn claimed.

If I think Djordref's play is more scummy in general than thrawn's claim, then yes, as I do find thrawn's claim more townie than scummy, and Djordref's play slightly scummy.

I am not sure where you want to go with this question...


Are you telling me he's scum who forgot that town has to scumhunt?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
December 14 2012 15:37 GMT
#1691
I'm saying the same thing others said aswell: That dabears case was bad, even if it hit.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 15:38 GMT
#1692
On December 15 2012 00:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
It's posts like this that I can't get over:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:56 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:49 Vivax wrote:
Tunkeg, do you think Djordref acted scummy in front of thrawns claim?


By scummy in front of thrawn's claim, do you mean before thrawn claimed? If so, no, because he didn't post before thrawn claimed.

If I think Djordref's play is more scummy in general than thrawn's claim, then yes, as I do find thrawn's claim more townie than scummy, and Djordref's play slightly scummy.

I am not sure where you want to go with this question...


Are you telling me he's scum who forgot that town has to scumhunt?


reverse the alignments and it's still nonsensical

so it's basically null.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2012 15:38 GMT
#1693
On December 15 2012 00:37 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying the same thing others said aswell: That dabears case was bad, even if it hit.


List those "others". If you can't, you're lying.
Computer says mafia
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
December 14 2012 15:39 GMT
#1694
On December 14 2012 19:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
palmar, look through boson's filter. imo his interactions with adam are scummier than djod's. the greatest degree of interaction between them I can find is boson attacking debears for attacking adam.

example:

Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 04:17 Z-BosoN wrote:
@debears
I see you've got some Adam going on for ya. I think you are getting too riled up over expecting someone to go balls out on a day one suspicion.

You, for example, are not nearly as spammy as your day one self. I don't think this aligns with your townie play, but I don't think it necessarily makes you scummy.

I am curious to hear from adam his stance on thrawn, as he seemed to have dropped it..


note that the only thing this posts accomplishes is soft defending adam. he doesn't call adam townie or scummy, nor does he call debears townie or scummy

Here's the most in depth thing boson had to say about adam:

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 02:09 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, like I said, debears seems to be doing some massive twisting of words to me.
What I found suspicious on Adam's filter is this contradiction in his idea of a case -> vote relationship, which I'd like him to explain.

He first criticizes debears for not voting him after making a case and votes him:


On December 10 2012 13:07 Adam4167 wrote:
In fact, why are you not voting me dabears?

On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote:
@Djo

The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum.

His reaction is feeling very forced


You say you don't like me (I assume this means you think i'm scum?), you find my lack of vote strange and that my reactions feel forced. Why make a case like this if you aren't going to follow it with a vote?

##Vote: dabears


This is funny to say the least, because later on, though, when he's made a case on vivax, here's his stance when questioned on why he wasn't voting vivax:

On December 11 2012 23:35 Adam4167 wrote:
I wanted to see what you had to say about my case before I made a definitive call on you.

Your response was interesting to me, because while you openly admit to not reading the thread and making shit accusations, I honestly wouldn't ever expect that level of honesty from a scum.


I mean, it's ok that he makes a huge case and doesn't vote, but when debears did that it made him scum? Weird.

Since we need to consolidate though, I am more confident in a Tunkeg lynch at the moment.


Imo this is one of boson's scummiest posts. He does bring up issues with adam's play but ends up dismissing it as "weird." That one word "weird" is what does it for me.

and as an added bonus, boson does not appear in adam's final list of reads


Thrawn stop making dumb arguments, for the love of god. "I do not appear in adam's final list of reads?". Really, that's what you came up with after I refuted all of your idiot points?

Also, I made that post about adam because I was asked to look into him. I only found that small contradiction, but I wasn't gonna capitalize on it because I didn't think he was scum.
If one word is what makes you think I'm scum, then you really need to learn how to play mafia.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 14 2012 15:40 GMT
#1695
Yeah I'm not liking Zbo for lynch. Also he's at 1337 posts.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
December 14 2012 15:40 GMT
#1696
I'm not doing jackshit. If you don't have a townread on me, you clearly need to l2p.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 14 2012 15:41 GMT
#1697
On December 15 2012 00:40 Vivax wrote:
I'm not doing jackshit. If you don't have a townread on me, you clearly need to l2p.


Not doing jackshit and doing jackshit mean the same thing. And you're right.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2012 15:45 GMT
#1698
On December 15 2012 00:40 Vivax wrote:
I'm not doing jackshit. If you don't have a townread on me, you clearly need to l2p.


Hey do you remember that time back in day 1 where I said I wanted to lynch Adam, which prompted you (for god knows what reason) to ask me what was my strongest scumread out of those, to which I (obviously) replied Adam.

Do you remember when you came back 20 minutes later and called the case shit repeatedly, somehow after an interaction with me deciding to ignore my case and just read dabears's one, then pound your chest and call people shit.

I even asked you to read my case instead of dabears's one. You conveniently ignored me.

You broke my heart that day

Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2012 15:45 GMT
#1699
While the mudslinging is fairly hilarious, it's not too useful right now, unless someone thinks they're getting an awesome scumread out of it.

Matron marv at your service.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
December 14 2012 15:45 GMT
#1700
In NL, they teach you the grammar of insults.
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