Tunkeg consequently looks worse too. I'm still working up the courage to read better what he has said.
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
Tunkeg consequently looks worse too. I'm still working up the courage to read better what he has said. | ||
Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I'm willing to consolidate on Tunkeg, I convinced myself. Reading Djo now, but for the love of god please consider BL, mainly all the stuff before my case because all the stuff after my case is him giving up afaik. Marv you say there's no scum agenda but just because you played scum with him and he forced a scum agenda this one time does not mean it's his scum play 100%. As you pointed out, look at how excited he was to be back and play and now look at how he's playing. | ||
Vivax
21694 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:30 wherebugsgo wrote: not like it really matters, but probably: Tunkeg Adam Munk-E one of ZB/VE/you/BL I feel very strongly that among the first 3 there are at least 2 scum. I don't think I am wrong about more than one of them, because Tunkeg + Adam in particular don't play like this as town from what I know. I don't think mafia would so openly confront someone over a play like Djo did. His tone and willingness to question and probe is really towny to me. Ex: He wants to find out thrawn's motivations so he votes him despite thinking that thrawn's actions were townish. I don't see many scum who are willing to put so much attention on themselves in this manner. Think about it: it opens Djo up to the "you're voting someone you have a townread on?" attack, and it's completely obvious. I'm certain scum would at the very least word their posts more carefully or not actually confront the player in such a manner at all. Secondly, when he pushes jay as a lynch, he ACTUALLY pushes it. I don't see scum doing that either. They often don't actively try to convince people to join them in killing someone. Sure, he might be good as scum, but we then have to ask why he would be so concerned with my vote and where it's going. Things like this: Indicate that Djo is reading the thread and at the very least concerned about people giving half-assed reasons to vote people. I didn't really have a great reason to vote Palmar and he called me out on it. Pretty townie reaction IMO. He also doesn't let bullshit fly: If you think Djo is scum, then you have to assume he is very very good at hiding his intentions. I just don't see scum acting the way he has acted so far. He's also far too active IMO to be a day 1 lynch consideration. Good post by WBG regarding djo aswell, and the scum options are quite close to where we are now. Anyway, if you want to prove I'm lying, then go fucking find it for yourself. I've got better stuff to do than to prove I'm innocent to idiots. | ||
Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
How about you just go back to calling everyone idiots, the look suits you. Seriously, make an actual case or do some actual analysis or don't bother, now you're just taking up space. | ||
Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
He defended debears in the Adam/BL exchange. He made this post quite early: On December 11 2012 21:58 Bluelightz wrote: On Adam, This caught my eye in Adam's filter, someone says "Oh Adam might be scum" he went into insta defensive mode, then he didn't address the accusation but only followed up with a counter vote. Seems strange? The timing of his vote on Adam is very important here too: BL was the fourth person to cast a vote on Adam. At the time Tunkeg lead with 4 votes, and Adam/Jay were tied at 3. If BL is scum it must have been a designed bus from that point on. There was no need for BL to step on the Adam wagon if he was scum right there. In fact, I would argue his vote starts the swing to an Adam lynch. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Oh man, selective humbleness. Palmar you're a treasure. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On December 15 2012 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote: LAWL Oh man, selective humbleness. Palmar you're a treasure. Hi, you're such a scum aren't you? | ||
Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
Then why the fuck aren't you voting him? | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
Can't prove it/not sure. He has a few things that look kinda towny. But he's in the shit tier for now. | ||
Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On December 15 2012 00:58 Palmar wrote: Actually Clarity, look back on a few things about Bluelightz: He defended debears in the Adam/BL exchange. He made this post quite early: The timing of his vote on Adam is very important here too: BL was the fourth person to cast a vote on Adam. At the time Tunkeg lead with 4 votes, and Adam/Jay were tied at 3. If BL is scum it must have been a designed bus from that point on. There was no need for BL to step on the Adam wagon if he was scum right there. In fact, I would argue his vote starts the swing to an Adam lynch. I've addressed it in my case. That first post on Adam is like all his other commentary at the start of the game. "Oh, this is weird", "oh, that is strange!" Then when he has to leave and won't be back before lynch he parks his vote on Adam (which is the best decision scumwise. You won't be around to defend him so this is either a bus or a clever vote depending on if Adam gets lynched) He votes for Adam and then he throws in "Palmar's case and my own reasons". I had to ask him for his reasons and he quoted his own post, the very post that you just showed me. Give me a break. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
thrawn, clarity, bluelightz these probably/maybe townies marv, jay, grush these hmm pfff hmm (need to read more on them all) tunkeg, Z-bos, hapa these shit tier people VE, Vivax, Djodref | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On December 15 2012 01:07 Clarity_nl wrote: I've addressed it in my case. That first post on Adam is like all his other commentary at the start of the game. "Oh, this is weird", "oh, that is strange!" Then when he has to leave and won't be back before lynch he parks his vote on Adam (which is the best decision scumwise. You won't be around to defend him so this is either a bus or a clever vote depending on if Adam gets lynched) He votes for Adam and then he throws in "Palmar's case and my own reasons". I had to ask him for his reasons and he quoted his own post, the very post that you just showed me. Give me a break. I'm not going with a bluelightz case now. My recent re-read has completely changed my read on him. | ||
Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On December 15 2012 01:07 Palmar wrote: If people are wondering how I'm working atm I've got like these almost certainly townies: thrawn, clarity, bluelightz these probably/maybe townies marv, jay, grush these hmm pfff hmm (need to read more on them all) tunkeg, Z-bos, hapa these shit tier people VE, Vivax, Djodref Why is grush probably town and why is hapa null? I don't agree with BL town but I'll consolidate for now and revisit it tomorrow. ##Unvote | ||
Vivax
21694 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:57 Tunkeg wrote: Don't worry, I am town. You can have a go at WBG post-game all you want, he played like utter shit this game. Also there got to be a scum in either Jaybrundage or Bluelightz (or both). I don't think adam would post his "reads" without least including some of his scumbuddies as scum. Hey Tunkeg, what about these two you mentioned? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On December 15 2012 01:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Why is grush probably town and why is hapa null? I don't agree with BL town but I'll consolidate for now and revisit it tomorrow. ##Unvote Hapa is null because of Munk-E's play on day 1, he kinda looks towny now on day 2. I also need to read him better. Grush's filter was a quick read but he doesn't look like scum at the moment. | ||
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