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You see, Hapa, you pretend that everyone has to behave consistently throughout all his games, while it's practically impossible to do so all the time. Same as Z-Boson saying that town is more likely to play consistently, which I frankly think isn't true.
You're looking for differences in what he said between a game and another. I'll tell you something, there's a 99 % chance that you'll find an inconsistency about EVERYONE in this thread if you just dig enough. Yes, go find some about me instead.
Now don't get me wrong, I like your efforts at scumhunting, I just think that your last argument is pretty shit and shows that you're cramped in trying to find every little thing to throw at bugs.
You're probably gonna ask: "Well, Vivax, why the hell do you have a townread on him?". I don't have one yet, but it would also help your cause if you stopped writing weak-ass posts managing to make them that big when all you have to point out is an inconsistency between a sentence in a game and a sentence in this one, which I don't think is very reliable.
Maybe you're just trying to save your ass since Munk-E played so badly and are desperately trying to look like you're contributing, explaining all the drama about the stuff. Chill down mate, a day are two days of time to get a good vote rolling.
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Now I want jay in here cause I don't like him a little bit. There's something about him that has been weird.
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On December 13 2012 06:30 Hapahauli wrote: @ WBG
Throughout your recent day filter, you seem to be awfully trusting of me despite having some serious reservations about Munk-E. Care to explain?
He was fairly inactive and didn't say anything of substance. You're the polar opposite of that.
On December 13 2012 06:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Also regarding Paranoia, you seem to be pointing that "the same shit is happening" in your defense, but I fail to see the similarities in gameplay. At the end of Day 1 in Paranoia, you had just over 1 page of filter. I also think this quote is rather telling of your town mentality in that game: Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 15:17 wherebugsgo wrote: it's always amusing when on day 1, every time I roll town, I get the same shit for the same stupid reasons. There is a pattern to how I play town: I don't say anything useful for almost all of day 1 because on day 1 I like to observe. That's why my opening votes are usually intended to create reactions, and while they almost always are intentional and on pseudo-scum reads when I post them, my day 1 reads usually change very very quickly.
It's also amusing that every time I roll scum no one calls me scum and then I get shot by some faggot 3rd party or a vigi who is scared of my scum play. So then I see things like this... Show nested quote +I haven't been very active?
THE FUCK? I have been far more active than probably everyone else in this game. Yet, you call ME "not very active"? LOL. ...which is super odd for two reasons. 1) you really haven't been all that active - you've had ~2-3 pages of Day 1 filter. That's far from "more active than... everyone else in this game". 2) It seems to go against your stated "town mentality" that you like to sit back, be less active, and observe the thread.
I like to observe on day 1. That hasn't changed, you can observe while posting. Clearly though I did something wrong last game, since I got lynched. So, this game I've been more proactive about that. (not like it's helping currently)
Also I tend to post a lot regardless of alignment so it doesn't really say anything. However 3 pages for day 1 is almost always a lot for anyone. I don't know what kind of spammy games you've been playing, but in most games I've played I've had the most posts or close to it-if you think 3 pages on d1 is not a lot, then clearly we have different definitions of active. (I'm also curious as to where you are getting your benchmarks from, since in almost all the games I've played, I'd define "active" as about a page of filter per day.)
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honestly though these posts of yours are really dumb. I'm going to assume for now you're just an overzealous townie, but it's bothersome that your logic is so bad.
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On December 13 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 06:30 Hapahauli wrote: @ WBG
Throughout your recent day filter, you seem to be awfully trusting of me despite having some serious reservations about Munk-E. Care to explain? He was fairly inactive and didn't say anything of substance. You're the polar opposite of that.
That'd be hapa of either alignment
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WBG you still havent commentated on my case on Djodref. Wachya think.
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On December 13 2012 06:44 Vivax wrote: You see, Hapa, you pretend that everyone has to behave consistently throughout all his games, while it's practically impossible to do so all the time. Same as Z-Boson saying that town is more likely to play consistently, which I frankly think isn't true.
You're looking for differences in what he said between a game and another. I'll tell you something, there's a 99 % chance that you'll find an inconsistency about EVERYONE in this thread if you just dig enough. Yes, go find some about me instead.
Now don't get me wrong, I like your efforts at scumhunting, I just think that your last argument is pretty shit and shows that you're cramped in trying to find every little thing to throw at bugs.
You're probably gonna ask: "Well, Vivax, why the hell do you have a townread on him?". I don't have one yet, but it would also help your cause if you stopped writing weak-ass posts managing to make them that big when all you have to point out is an inconsistency between a sentence in a game and a sentence in this one, which I don't think is very reliable.
Maybe you're just trying to save your ass since Munk-E played so badly and are desperately trying to look like you're contributing, explaining all the drama about the stuff. Chill down mate, a day are two days of time to get a good vote rolling.
I think you're missing my intentions here. I'm more trying to inquire into his mentality than looking for any reason to call him scum. If I was dead sure he was scum, I probably wouldn't be asking him questions. Fact is, I'm unsure, and I have to probe into anything I can.
On December 13 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 06:30 Hapahauli wrote: @ WBG
Throughout your recent day filter, you seem to be awfully trusting of me despite having some serious reservations about Munk-E. Care to explain? He was fairly inactive and didn't say anything of substance. You're the polar opposite of that. Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 06:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Also regarding Paranoia, you seem to be pointing that "the same shit is happening" in your defense, but I fail to see the similarities in gameplay. At the end of Day 1 in Paranoia, you had just over 1 page of filter. I also think this quote is rather telling of your town mentality in that game: On December 01 2012 15:17 wherebugsgo wrote: it's always amusing when on day 1, every time I roll town, I get the same shit for the same stupid reasons. There is a pattern to how I play town: I don't say anything useful for almost all of day 1 because on day 1 I like to observe. That's why my opening votes are usually intended to create reactions, and while they almost always are intentional and on pseudo-scum reads when I post them, my day 1 reads usually change very very quickly.
It's also amusing that every time I roll scum no one calls me scum and then I get shot by some faggot 3rd party or a vigi who is scared of my scum play. So then I see things like this... I haven't been very active?
THE FUCK? I have been far more active than probably everyone else in this game. Yet, you call ME "not very active"? LOL. ...which is super odd for two reasons. 1) you really haven't been all that active - you've had ~2-3 pages of Day 1 filter. That's far from "more active than... everyone else in this game". 2) It seems to go against your stated "town mentality" that you like to sit back, be less active, and observe the thread. I like to observe on day 1. That hasn't changed, you can observe while posting. Clearly though I did something wrong last game, since I got lynched. So, this game I've been more proactive about that. (not like it's helping currently) Also I tend to post a lot regardless of alignment so it doesn't really say anything. However 3 pages for day 1 is almost always a lot for anyone. I don't know what kind of spammy games you've been playing, but in most games I've played I've had the most posts or close to it-if you think 3 pages on d1 is not a lot, then clearly we have different definitions of active. (I'm also curious as to where you are getting your benchmarks from, since in almost all the games I've played, I'd define "active" as about a page of filter per day.)
In the games I've been in, I'd say an active player in a mini is 5+ pages of D1 filter. 2-3 pages is pretty average. You also claimed you were more active than anyone else here, when players like clarity, debears, thrawn, marv... etc... all these guys were far more active than yourself.
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On December 13 2012 06:53 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 13 2012 06:30 Hapahauli wrote: @ WBG
Throughout your recent day filter, you seem to be awfully trusting of me despite having some serious reservations about Munk-E. Care to explain? He was fairly inactive and didn't say anything of substance. You're the polar opposite of that. That'd be hapa of either alignment
Oh and this. Well I guess you (WBG) don't know my meta, but I'm fairly active as scum as well. It feels rather strange to have someone trust me so quickly ya know? No one ever trusts me =(
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On December 13 2012 06:46 Vivax wrote: Now I want jay in here cause I don't like him a little bit. There's something about him that has been weird. I'm here and you have said nothing of substance. Post the quote. If you want my thoughts. Or say something. zzz
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Yes I totally think we should be defining the standard measure of activeness in this game.
Even worse than policy discussion.
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On December 13 2012 07:05 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 06:53 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 13 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 13 2012 06:30 Hapahauli wrote: @ WBG
Throughout your recent day filter, you seem to be awfully trusting of me despite having some serious reservations about Munk-E. Care to explain? He was fairly inactive and didn't say anything of substance. You're the polar opposite of that. That'd be hapa of either alignment Oh and this. Well I guess you (WBG) don't know my meta, but I'm fairly active as scum as well. It feels rather strange to have someone trust me so quickly ya know? No one ever trusts me =( HAPA I DONT TRUST YOU
..not to be trustedddddd...
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Ah, jay, I'm glad you are here, see my question to you on the previous page.
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On December 13 2012 07:07 Vivax wrote: Ah, jay, I'm glad you are here, see my question to you on the previous page. And yet again you show an adept skill and not reading the thread. Check out my request for wtf you were talking about on the previous post. Do you even read bro?
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On December 13 2012 07:06 Vivax wrote: Yes I totally think we should be defining the standard measure of activeness in this game.
Even worse than policy discussion.
Le sigh.
WBG claimed he was more active than virtually everyone in the thread in his defense. I pointed out this is clearly not the case.
Inquiring into misrepresentation is useless because?
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On December 13 2012 06:25 Vivax wrote: JAAAAAY, do you think Bugs would go so far to defend other scum? (Note I'm not implying that I think he's scum yet)
Get in here!
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Ah shit, didn't see your post.
I'm not quoting shit, I'm asking a partial opinion on bugs
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And aside from bugs, I also would like to ask if you think that scum would go so far to defend townies.
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Wtf you are taking pretty long for some yes/no answers.
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Im not gonna answer you if you refuse to quote and show me what your talking about.
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