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I don't need anymore balls in here, it's already full. For now I'm fine with calling BL scum.
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Derpbears, push your case against Adam and stop diluting this thread with your mental diarrhea.
You're most likely getting your Adam lynch done, why the fuck are you so concerned with two votes on BL?
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If it comforts you, me and Clarity probably too won't allow a no-lynch to happen. Also cause noone wants to be responsible of a no lynch, so it's not really alignment indicative.
If we rally enough people for BL though, then you'Ll have to wait for Adam.
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Don't be shy mate 
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MARV, do you have any other reason to vote Adam aside from sheeping Debears?
You mostly talk about everyone else but have your vote on Adam. What do you think of Tunkegs presumed last post?
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Grush, I really hope someone shoots you tonight.
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Either Bluelightz, Jay or Tunk.
The initial case against Adam was pretty bad, but his latest activity isn't exactly townie, since he's not been doing anything useful nor defending himself much. He's the last option for me.
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Grush, I really hope noone kills you tonight.
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You can sleep in my bed if you want, I should still have some of that rectal gel lying around here.
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On December 12 2012 06:29 Tunkeg wrote:
Don't worry I am not pissed at anyone, I just don't mind getting lynched all that much. I have given you my reads, and me as flipped town gives strenght to my arguements.
Dude, that's a really bad attitude. You have 1000 ways to strengthen your arguments other than to accept a mislynch just like that.
And even if everybody follows your arguments after that, which is as unlikely as it was before, you still might be super wrong about them, so it also shows you are pretty cocky about your opinion.
(Or maybe you're scum who has succeeded in fooling us all)
Anyway, 6 votes on Adam so far, count me in for the last 3. I like what grush had to say in this one.
Inbefore OMG HE'S BANDWAGONING.
##Unvote
##Vote Adam
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Debby, yours is probably the most persistent tunneling I have witnessed in my short unsuccessful mafia career, I hope you hit the right spot.
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Wtf jay now I see why you always get lynched.
Debears, please post that video if he flips green aswell :d.
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But marv, I think that you handled Adam in a weird way, too.
Check my filter, there's a lonely question waiting for your shiny presence.
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On December 12 2012 08:03 marvellosity wrote:
naw i feel terrible about it
Adam not ok for a lynch?
On December 12 2012 02:04 marvellosity wrote:
The number of people 'uncomfortable' or whatever word you want to use about Adam's lynch makes me feel quite good about it at the moment.
Adam ok cause of others.
From interaction with bugs, meant somewhat as defense since Adam might prove useful:
Marv @ 00:10; 12/12/12:Take a gander at Whose Line where Adam caught two scum in the first cycle or so
Adam somewhat not ok?
On December 11 2012 11:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 10:48 debears wrote:
Marvy baby. Thoughts on my recent posts on adam? I like it. I have very little else to add other than I agree that it makes no sense that he was talking to you that way when you were his scumread. I'd understand it more if this was the start of the interactions, but it's been going on a while. Tunkeg has done jack shit to make me think he's town which I love to lynch for on Day 1, but Adam has betrayed a scum mentality right there. ##Unvote
##Vote: Adamsomenumbers
The voting moment. This is quite important, marv agrees with debears about something pretty generic. Calling marv out for this here would give him plenty of versions of "that he was talking to you that way" to offer.
Anyway, you'll see how this is weird cause of the last quotation, especially that he agrees with debears with no problems.
On December 11 2012 06:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 05:53 grush57 wrote:
I remember in LVI I was on scum with Adam, and it reminds me of how he is semi-active but not really doing anything. The thing I didn't like about Adam was that I had to press him to turn his commentary into a read on debears. Other than that he's actually posted a little more already than I was expecting him to, so meh. I'm slightly something on Adam but I'm not sure what yet :p Can I interest you fine people in a scum lynch, a la Tunkeg? Is there anyone out there who actually gets good vibes from how he came into the thread?
He keeps a neutral stance on Adam, then asks for opionions about Tunkeg.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2012 02:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 02:42 debears wrote:On December 11 2012 01:24 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2012 01:22 debears wrote:@Djo/Marv Here's the passage by Adam I am talking about with the implication of thrawn being scum On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here. On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME). On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:24 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here. On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME). What's the stark contrast? I don't see how these things are even related. Are you trying to suggest I'm scum? because you went about it pretty subtly. Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion? If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing. Notice 1) Your town play is way different 2) Your town play says you wouldn't claim 3) I don't think your scummy despite the "stark contrast" He said he wasn't calling him scum right that instant, he was questioning him to try to find out what was going on. That doesn't mean he didn't find the play scummy. Presumably the reason he's questioning him is BECAUSE his play was different from his town play. No? But marv that seems to contrast his statement saying "if I wanted to call you scum". It's possible that it's just me interpreting what he means wrongly. But saying "i'm not calling you scum" is the same thing as "i'm not calling you scummy" imo. It's not that he questioned thrawn. It's how he did it. Saying "your town meta is different' and "town you wouldn't say this" implies that he finds thrawn scummy. Then, he says he's not calling thrawn scum. Also, marv, what do you think of this? On December 10 2012 11:55 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote:
@Djo
The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum.
His reaction is feeling very forced That's OK, you don't need to like me. Your 'case' isn't much of one, I said I don't know if hes scum or not, so why would I vote him? I feel I've been very transparent about why i'm doing what i'm doing, to try and get some semblance of a read on Thrawn for his early actions. Right now i'm putting him in the 'I don't know what the hell hes doing' category. 1) Look at my "case". 4/5 sentences is a case by me? Yeah right.... 2) He takes my post out of context. Djo asked me me a question and I responded On December 10 2012 10:56 Djodref wrote:On December 10 2012 10:44 debears wrote:On December 10 2012 10:07 Djodref wrote:On December 10 2012 10:01 debears wrote:On December 10 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever happened to people going "LOL" after a video like in the olden days? Ikr Anyways Djo the video was a response to the question, but a fun way of doing it Have you not seen the Matrix? Did you not watch the video? Yes, I guess you were saying that your vote was not real with the video. What was your motivation with your first vote on thrawn ? What is your real take on thrawn fakeclaim ? To get the voting rally started of course. Break the ice sonAnd it's strange. It would make no sense from a town perspective. His PM can't tell him he's a miller, because they aren't self aware. So from town - he was joking and he knew millers weren't self aware. Just did it for shits and giggles scum - he claimed miller without checking first. I just don't see a scum being that reckless, but i'm sure if he's town he'll put in a productive day 1. Or, he could've knew someone would interpret him as a joking townie if he's scum. and the wifomwifomwfiom I'm the first to vote in the voting thread  So you see thrawn as a joking town or a reckless scum (less likely) or scum using WIFOM. Okay... I personally can see a motivation for a town player to fakeclaim like this (serious motivation) that would make sense but I'm waiting for him to explain it first so I can check it matches my expectation or not. At the exception of thrawn, do you have any comment to make on other players in this early game ? On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote:
@Djo
The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum.
His reaction is feeling very forced Then, he votes me after taking my post out of context, saying I should have voted him with my "case" On December 10 2012 13:07 Adam4167 wrote:In fact, why are you not voting me dabears? On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote:
@Djo
The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum.
His reaction is feeling very forced You say you don't like me (I assume this means you think i'm scum?), you find my lack of vote strange and that my reactions feel forced. Why make a case like this if you aren't going to follow it with a vote? ##Vote: dabears Yeah.....I'm sorry marv that I don't follow up my extensive, 4 sentence cases with no quotes that are a response to a question with a vote This reaction is something that I don't see a townie mindset 1) Questioning someone and mentioning twice that they're playing way different from their town play. Then, saying that you don't think they are scum (ie scummy) 2) Taking someone else's posts out of context when he mentions you 3) Voting for said person when he didn't make a "case" against you because he didn't follow up his "case" with a vote The problem as I see it is that you're doing what you're accusing Adam of doing. Adam is questioning thrawn on his millershit or whatever. But he's not calling him scum or voting him, right?
Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote:
@Djo
The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum.
His reaction is feeling very forced Now this might not be a "case" as you would call one, but then what is it? You don't like his questioning, you don't like his lack of vote, you don't like that he didn't call him scummy, you felt his reaction was forced. All this in itself implies that he is either scum or scummy (if you say the two are the same...) and yet at the time you weren't voting him either.
Meh, I've used the same argument to defend Adam against debears, yet marv first neglected it, then basically accepted it by voting for him that early. What I don't like is how he first ignores this argument, then starts pulling out his own arguments, which are all very fluffy in my opinion.
Anyway, the argument which implicitly made marv change opinion about debears case (which he said wasn't a real case lol) was this:
+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2012 02:42 debears wrote:
Yeah.....I'm sorry marv that I don't follow up my extensive, 4 sentence cases with no quotes that are a response to a question with a vote
This reaction is something that I don't see a townie mindset
1) Questioning someone and mentioning twice that they're playing way different from their town play. Then, saying that you don't think they are scum (ie scummy)
2) Taking someone else's posts out of context when he mentions you
3) Voting for said person when he didn't make a "case" against you because he didn't follow up his "case" with a vote
So much for a little Marv & Adam summary to give some food for thought.
Also, if Adam flips town, I'd like to see debears dead.
Inbefore marv jumps out and calls me dumb etc., well at least that's something.
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Sorry I didn't hear the tone of your letters
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But yeah, could have thought that you would no do something so obviously weird for serious.
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I suggest to leave your vote where it is, but you can express your willingness to vote for somebody else.
I'd be willing to vote for jay over Adam.
In the end, if 9 people say the same, we can switch (not gonna happen tho cause many are afk i believe)
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Wtf debears, all fucking game long you were convinced about Adams guilt, now suck up the consequences. If he's green I'll want you lynched.
Stop talking about voteswings.
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Wtf Adam, you can't do this to us
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