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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 21 2012 04:53 jaybrundage wrote: I gots an idea guys what if we lynch hapa or zboson instead of me cause im town :D The more we are waiting for this Z-Bo case, the more likely you are to flip mafia ^^ | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:01 Djodref wrote: Because of your attitude towards VE fakeclaim and jay during VE lynch. I'm ready to trust VE and lynch Jay. I'm really ready to trust VE, I'm just waiting so I can see what you guys decide I really would like to believe this guy Ok, look ! jay is pants on head. I don't want to lynch him anymore. He is going to look good when VE is gonna flip (red) I'm sorry if you are town, but this is how I interpret your posts at that time... Yeah so what? Quote #1: I'm clearly expressing reservations, and I'm not committed to either side. Also... I want to lynch... Jay? How does that make sense from a mafia perspective? Quote #2: I'm clearly not ready to trust VE as you claim. I said I'm not dismissing the claim, not that I want to trust him. Again, it's stupid in such a volatile spot to turn the blinders on in either way, and I'll be damned if you tunnel suspicion on me for having the correct attitude as a townie here. Quote #3: How in the fuck is that "I want to believe VE?" That's me expressing some very clear reservations about VE. Quote #4: Jay is "pants on head" - yes that's exactly what I thought at the time until looking through VE's filter (particularly his last scum-list post) showed me otherwise. What about my attitude there was unreasonable? Hell I took an opinion directly against everyone in the thread for what reason exactly? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:03 Djodref wrote: The more we are waiting for this Z-Bo case, the more likely you are to flip mafia ^^ I find it hilarious. How confident you are. Regardless your wrong lets lynch hapa instead. ##Vote Hapa | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I'm sorry if you are town, but this is how I interpret your posts at that time... These aren't reasonable interpretations of my posts. This is you trying to read between the lines and act as if I'm implying a thousand things that I'm not. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:10 Hapahauli wrote: These aren't reasonable interpretations of my posts. This is you trying to read between the lines and act as if I'm implying a thousand things that I'm not. In my opinion, you gave VE too much of BOTD. VE was really scummy, my case against him was good enough to convince that he was scum, I would say. Not to mention the fact that WBG, Tunkeg and Palmar wanted to lynch him. When a guy like this comes to the thread when he is going to get lynched with a claim without breadcrumbs, with 3 blues already in the graveyard, he is most likely to fakeclaim, regardless of if there is a counter claim or not. And yeah, wanted to switch and jay makes sense, you could 'confirm' VE as a cop and gain town credit in the operation. Also, I don't understand how you could come from 'let's switch to jay' to go to 'him going totally nuts about VE is a town trait' | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
This is because I hold your town play in a very high standard. Don't take it wrong, but you are maybe getting mislynched because people are expecting you to play perfectly. I would expect town Hapa to directly ring to FakeClaim Alert Bell  | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 18 2012 09:23 marvellosity wrote: Z-Bo has gone according to his last post, i assume he's referring to what i pasted here. i fucking hate this. none of his play is townie, but i hate lynching uncounterclaimed DTs. djfnsdk I think we have to lynch him and hope he doesn't flip DT or we feel very stupid Also as far as my "grand plan" goes: And yeah, wanted to switch and jay makes sense, you could 'confirm' VE as a cop and gain town credit in the operation. Also, I don't understand how you could come from 'let's switch to jay' to go to 'him going totally nuts about VE is a town trait' So what was my plan? That I wanted to get town-cred from lynching Jay? But then I switched to defending Jay to look as bad as possible and wanted to save Jay? That alone should show you I'm not mafia. What was my plan? I would have had to 180 on plans with my "team" within a span of 5 minutes. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:21 Djodref wrote: @ Hapa This is because I hold your town play in a very high standard. Don't take it wrong, but you are maybe getting mislynched because people are expecting you to play perfectly. I would expect town Hapa to directly ring to FakeClaim Alert Bell Good lord. The "Fake claim alert bell" isn't about "ZOMG HE'S FAKE CLAIMING LYNCH HIM NOWWWW!" It's about being willing to consider the options in a claiming situation. When someone claims cop, you have to consider the options. You can't tunnel lynch him, because not all last-minute cop claims are mafia. Also I'm surprised you draw so much of this advice from the Dandel Ion fake-claim in that newbie game when the situations were completely different. I was on you guys for not considering the claim since Dandel... 1) Claimed town roleblocker (lol) 2) He was the 4th claimed blue in a 13 player game 3) He had scumslipped several times in his filter 4) The entire town didn't even question his claim | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
Because Palmar said so. But him getting away with zero effort because of his meta and how he always gets lynched is making me mad. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:29 Hapahauli wrote: Good lord. The "Fake claim alert bell" isn't about "ZOMG HE'S FAKE CLAIMING LYNCH HIM NOWWWW!" It's about being willing to consider the options in a claiming situation. When someone claims cop, you have to consider the options. You can't tunnel lynch him, because not all last-minute cop claims are mafia. Also I'm surprised you draw so much of this advice from the Dandel Ion fake-claim in that newbie game when the situations were completely different. I was on you guys for not considering the claim since Dandel... 1) Claimed town roleblocker (lol) 2) He was the 4th claimed blue in a 13 player game 3) He had scumslipped several times in his filter 4) The entire town didn't even question his claim 1) VE claimed cop and his checks were weird, plus he had no breadcrumbs 2) 4th blue in a 16 players game, Cop being usually take more slots than other roles 3) VE was scummy enough 4) I did question his claim, but I didn't voice my concerns enough But, yeah, I'm being unfair, you were not the only one. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Can you address this by the way? On December 21 2012 05:27 Hapahauli wrote: ... So what was my plan? That I wanted to get town-cred from lynching Jay? But then I switched to defending Jay to look as bad as possible and wanted to save Jay? That alone should show you I'm not mafia. What was my plan? I would have had to 180 on plans with my "team" within a span of 5 minutes. Pretend I'm mafia for a minute. Walk me through my last posts before the deadline (regarding Jay and VE) - what was the plan I had? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
But it didn't happen like so, VE gets obviously lynched, ask jay to go pants on head, and you try to make him look town for being that obvious. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:52 Djodref wrote: Save VE, lynch jay, getting VE confirmed and you town cred. Then, victory could be achieved. But it didn't happen like so, VE gets obviously lynched, ask jay to go pants on head, and you try to make him look town for being that obvious. That's a pretty impressive plan to come up with in such a chaotic last-minute situation. I'd be impressed if I was mafia. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
That VE + Jay decided to go pants-on-head, and Bluelightz didn't post once during their entire escapade? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
1) Munk-E replaced out of the game due to inactivity concerns 2) Munk-E is lynch-bait | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On December 21 2012 06:01 Hapahauli wrote: Also, if you say Munk-E again, allow me to pre-emptively retort: 1) Munk-E replaced out of the game due to inactivity concerns 2) Munk-E is lynch-bait The admin never said that. He must of said it in qt | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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