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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 27 2012 17:34 GMT
#94
/in

So rusty.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 28 2012 19:22 GMT
#119
On November 29 2012 03:54 debears wrote:
Yeah I'd say he's just a chicken without a head that happens to find gold once in a while

Good Sir,

I am writing to inquire as to where one might purchase such a gold-finding chicken. The missus and I have been training gold-finding ferrets and gold-finding cod for a decade now, with no success to be shown for our efforts.

Warmest Regards,
austinmcc
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 01:26 GMT
#254
On November 30 2012 10:21 debears wrote:
@Marv

Do you have links to your 3 games before rockband mini?

From start date closest to rockband moving backwards

Mini - GSL Open
Mini - NMMIII
Themed - Death Note
Normal - Mad Men

No guarantees on getting all, but those are games from just before rockband mini



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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 02:01 GMT
#274
On November 30 2012 10:54 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:47 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:43 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.

What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.

You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.

PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment.


All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either.

post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well.

Can't say I loved his case either.


DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument.

Any given sunday brah


Your ridiculous. The only thing silly about it was that potentially people should have known what i was requesting already.

This comment was completely unneeded, brought up something which was over, and just repeated what marv and others said about it.

##vote: debears


Cool. You want to read my other posts which are about other stuff?

Or do you really think I could be scum?


I read your other posts. mostly meh. That post was scummy though.


Care to tell me why they are mostly meh?

specifically on the one about the marv town read, the dandel vote, and the doyouhas vote

I find it odd that you pick out one of my least important posts while ignoring my more important ones and find me scummy from it

Your votes, in particular, aren't very important.

On November 30 2012 10:21 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 09:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:10 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Xatalos

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.


Heheh.. What ever should I do. Clearly I've been found out!


Well that is a suspicious way of responding to BH's vote.

##Vote Xatalos

Wrong. He is a noob. (no offense) you can't read too much into things like that with him.

I'm a noob too, and you already lynched me

So inconsistant


##Vote Dandel

@Dandel

So you're going to discredit yourself amongst these players by calling yourself a noob? That doesn't make much sense from a town perspective.

Also, were you being sarcastic earlier in how serious you were saying we shouldn't joke and stuff?
Dandel is discrediting himself. You say it doesn't make sense from a town perspective. However, it doesn't make any more sense from a scum perspective.

On November 30 2012 10:46 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 10:38 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:29 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.

I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.

I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.

As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will).


DoYouHas

Why are you trying to paint such a picture on ace? Sure, he is a forefather of TL Mafia, and I'm sure all of us are aware of his ability. But why try to focus on his scumplay so much over his town play?

As I recall, he is also a pretty darn good town player. Stating how you are overly cautious of him (implying somewhat to others that they should also be) just because he's a good mafia player doesn't seem like something a townie would do


Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation.


That doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to sheep someone cuz of their reputation. I'm going to sheep if their case

1) makes sense
2) is good
3) I believe they are town

If he takes a town leader position, it'll be because of those things. Not because of his reputation

##Unvote
##Vote DoYouHas
Then you quickly drop a new vote on DoYouHas. Because...you don't think that you would sheep Ace because he's Ace. DoYouHas does NOT want people sheeping Ace based on reputation. You want the same, but vote him because he said that?

What exactly is your reasoning for voting DoYouHas?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 02:22 GMT
#288
On November 30 2012 11:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:01 austinmcc wrote:
Dandel is discrediting himself. You say it doesn't make sense from a town perspective. However, it doesn't make any more sense from a scum perspective.



Simply untrue. Scum have plenty to gain by being ignored. Just take a gander in Ver's guide for an example (Misder possibly)

He's not asking to be ignored. This is the chain in which Dandel Ion speaks:
On November 30 2012 09:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:10 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Xatalos

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.


Heheh.. What ever should I do. Clearly I've been found out!


Well that is a suspicious way of responding to BH's vote.

##Vote Xatalos

Wrong. He is a noob. (no offense) you can't read too much into things like that with him.

I'm a noob too, and you already lynched me

So inconsistant

He says he's a noob. Discrediting was DoYouHas's word I believe, but I'd argue that

(1) There can be benefits to scum in lurking
(2) What Dandel Ion did (making a post calling himself a noob) =/= lurking

To some extent, calling yourself a noob implies that you're going to sit back and let other people do the heavy lifting. But I don't really attribute any kind of purpose to Dandel Ion's post like that, and I don't think it makes sense for scum to point out newness, because iirc every newbie guide says apologies/hiding behind newness = scum.

tl;dr I think there's a difference between lurking/being passive/playing to be ignored and Dandel Ion's post.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 02:24 GMT
#290
debears,

If both players you voted for are "scummy as shit," why move your vote?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 16:02 GMT
#334
On December 01 2012 00:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
Nothing big. I don't really like the amount some players have been trolling, but like someone said, it seems to be the norm in non-newbie games and thus I cannot make too much of a read out of it.

ShaioPi and Xata probebly isn't scum team I guess.

Which players do you feel have been overly trolly? I agree with your sentiment, but it's not enough to just state that.

So let's start something going. Here are my thoughts on Zealos. He's not posting pictures or videos to thread, but he stands out to me as someone who has been here but isn't doing anything. Filter is almost solely one-liners, with a "vote x10" that then gets unvoted. He has one post with any meat to it - + Show Spoiler +
On November 30 2012 21:13 Zealos wrote:
I disagree on the question front Xata. Asking lots of questions forces potential Mafia players to give their opinions, and it means they can't avoid talking about the topics at hand, also, it's a good way of getting discussion moving.

The way you avoid mafia being able to ask questions all game and not give opinions is to ask similar questions of them. If everyone on the town team keep pressuring one another, and the mafia team, then eventually it becomes obvious who is scum,

- but yet that post is just his thoughts on asking questions, and not actually DOING anything. While not as overtly enjoying himself as others, stuff like vote x10 and one-liners aren't doing anything for the thread.

So Lazermonkey, what are your thoughts on Zealos? Do they line up with mine?

Beyond that, pick a player of particular interest to you, and I'll give you my thoughts on them. Feel free to share yours or not.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 16:12 GMT
#336
On December 01 2012 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
austin, what would you say the difference between Zealos and BH was?

BH has been overtly trolly. Apart from posting links, he's just made comments that don't matter and posted a kanye video.

Couple things:

Zealos voted, traded dumb comments with the guy he voted, and unvoted. At the very least, that shows more ... participation in the game than BH. Whereas BH dropped a dumb vote on someone, Zealos unvoted his dumb vote, showing that it wasn't pure trolling, to some extent he cared where it was. That's a major difference for me, he's trolling but ... caring about the game in a way that BH isn't right now.

Also, during one of the few discussions that have happened in thread, Zealos adds his thoughts about asking questions and how it helps find mafia. He constructs a real post, with words and thoughts, but when you read it there's just not much there. It's minor advice that doesn't do anything for the thread, and he doesn't actually do anything with it.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 16:32 GMT
#338
On December 01 2012 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, what I expected

For how long would BH's trolliness have to continue before you started regarding it with suspicion (if at all)?

My gut reaction was to say that he's been gone a bit, sleeping/not here/whatever, and that if he returns purely trolling, then I'd be worried, but if he returns with anything else than I won't. Which is stupid, and telegraphs how I'll read him, and blah blah.

As I typed that, I realize I actually don't care about his trolling. If he's scum, he'll eventually get killed for it because other players will mind, and if he only trolls then he has no control over the game, can't really influence anything. Which is fine by me. If he's town and trolling, I trust him to eventually un-troll. So while I'd prefer a helpful BH, I don't think I'm actually going to be suspicious of him if he continues trolling, unless we're getting mid-late game and I've got townreads on a lot of the remaining players.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 16:44 GMT
#341
On December 01 2012 01:38 Lazermonkey wrote:
Thoughts about Dandel? He have been posting quite alot although some of it have been rubbish. I don't really like how he claimed to be a noob right away. But at the same time I don't really think it's too good of a move from scum PoV either. I'm treating him null atm.

Some of what he's posted has been rubbish. But he actively participated and generated rubbish, when something dumb led to people wanting to lynch him, he responded to that with more dumb stuff. Gut read on that is mildly townie, because he shows no desire to shape up after seeing that his play may get him some votes.

He followed up on his CONFIDENCE question to debears. I have no idea what that speech is, but the fact that he followed up again shows me that he's participating and maybe not just for show.

All in all, his play currently makes me want to skip his posts and not read them, but doesn't make me want to lynch him. Mild town read, but a lot of that is stemming from it being D1 so there isn't oodles to go on.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 16:47 GMT
#342
On December 01 2012 01:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 01:32 austinmcc wrote:
On December 01 2012 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, what I expected

For how long would BH's trolliness have to continue before you started regarding it with suspicion (if at all)?

My gut reaction was to say that he's been gone a bit, sleeping/not here/whatever, and that if he returns purely trolling, then I'd be worried, but if he returns with anything else than I won't. Which is stupid, and telegraphs how I'll read him, and blah blah.

As I typed that, I realize I actually don't care about his trolling. If he's scum, he'll eventually get killed for it because other players will mind, and if he only trolls then he has no control over the game, can't really influence anything. Which is fine by me. If he's town and trolling, I trust him to eventually un-troll. So while I'd prefer a helpful BH, I don't think I'm actually going to be suspicious of him if he continues trolling, unless we're getting mid-late game and I've got townreads on a lot of the remaining players.
But with this logic wouldn't trolly BH get killed as well. That's kinda bad imo. Assuming he is town that is ; )

Yes, trolly BH would eventually get killed. But trolly BH knows that. I assume he'll stop at some point before that happens. So I really don't care if his trolliness continues. If he's town, either he stops, or maybe takes a shot from scum (trying to get rid of a good player before that player contributes anything useful), and so in my mind he either becomes useful or the problem of reading him solves itself.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 17:03 GMT
#345
Alright Lazer, doyouhas/debears

I personally find doyouhas's posts legible and pretty clear about what he's thinking. That said, his couple posts are mainly focused on debears/ace, and while his last post ends with
On November 30 2012 12:05 DoYouHas wrote:
You want to kill me off by blowing a small thing in my first post out of proportion. I've explained my intent twice now. Either you are happy with it or you are not. I'm moving on.

he doesn't actually "move on." At least not to anywhere we can see.

Do you have (tee hee) an overall feel of doyouhas at the moment?


Moving on from doyouhas, how are you feeling about debears?

I find his justifications for voting DoYouHas poor, and I disagree with his interpretation of DoYouHas's thoughts on Ace...pretty hard. That alone isn't scummy, but he's very focused in on this one topic, yet drops a top gun picture in the middle of his discussion, and never follows up after DoYouHas posts that he's moving on but never moves on.

If DoYouHas saying he's moving on but not doing so sticks in my head as something interesting, I don't know why it's not doing the same for debears, especially as his vote is still on DYH. Overall, I'm lightly scummy on debears because of the DYH stuff.

Disclaimer, I've only read debears posts in obs qts, and found him to be generally interested in the entirety of the game, what everyone was doing. Some of my read is him not...trying to figure out the game here in the same way I've seen him post in obs qts, but obs and in game are a bit different.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 17:15 GMT
#349
On December 01 2012 02:06 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 02:03 austinmcc wrote:
Alright Lazer, doyouhas/debears

I personally find doyouhas's posts legible and pretty clear about what he's thinking. That said, his couple posts are mainly focused on debears/ace, and while his last post ends with
On November 30 2012 12:05 DoYouHas wrote:
You want to kill me off by blowing a small thing in my first post out of proportion. I've explained my intent twice now. Either you are happy with it or you are not. I'm moving on.

he doesn't actually "move on." At least not to anywhere we can see.

Do you have (tee hee) an overall feel of doyouhas at the moment?


Moving on from doyouhas, how are you feeling about debears?

I find his justifications for voting DoYouHas poor, and I disagree with his interpretation of DoYouHas's thoughts on Ace...pretty hard. That alone isn't scummy, but he's very focused in on this one topic, yet drops a top gun picture in the middle of his discussion, and never follows up after DoYouHas posts that he's moving on but never moves on.

If DoYouHas saying he's moving on but not doing so sticks in my head as something interesting, I don't know why it's not doing the same for debears, especially as his vote is still on DYH. Overall, I'm lightly scummy on debears because of the DYH stuff.

Disclaimer, I've only read debears posts in obs qts, and found him to be generally interested in the entirety of the game, what everyone was doing. Some of my read is him not...trying to figure out the game here in the same way I've seen him post in obs qts, but obs and in game are a bit different.


Ausin, answer this please

I would say that arguably, players like Marv, BH, and VE have good reputations also. Maybe not quite up to Ace's, but still pretty good.

Also, in a game loaded with veterans, why is DoYou so worried about sheeping?

Vets seem to be the majority this game, meaning they know better than to mindlessly sheep

See where I'm going?

Other plays have good reputations, yes. However, I think you're overblowing the extent to which DYH was focused on this whole sheeping thing.

He mentions Ace. You ask why he's focused on Ace. He responds with what I feel to be a clear and logical comment - he wants to explain his feelings (awww) and doesn't want people sheeping Ace. I'm fine with that.

In my mind, your response and vote, where you note that you wouldn't sheep someone based on reputation, twists and adds too much importance to what he said. You asked a question; he responded clearly. You may disagree with him, you may think he's worried about something he shouldn't be worried about, but I don't find his response scummy. Like...whether or not anyone sheeps anyone because of reputation, who cares? (That's not an endorsement of your position, I don't find it SCUMMY to be worried about that, just don't think it's worth worrying over)

I think the entire train of thought is a waste of our time. We have some vets. We have some newer faces. Who cares? To me, anyone focused in on that is just posting for the sake of having a filter, isn't hunting scum, and isn't helping themselves look townie.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 17:16 GMT
#350
On December 01 2012 02:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 02:06 debears wrote:


I would say that arguably, players like Marv, BH, and VE have good reputations also. Maybe not quite up to Ace's, but still pretty good.

Also, in a game loaded with veterans, why is DoYou so worried about sheeping?

Vets seem to be the majority this game, meaning they know better than to mindlessly sheep

See where I'm going?


Where did he say this? He said he was paranoid of Ace's scum abilities.

On November 30 2012 10:38 DoYouHas wrote:
Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation.

On November 30 2012 12:05 DoYouHas wrote:
So this particular bit of my intentions doesn't apply to you personally, congratulations. Have you honestly never been in a game where someone's opinion was given more weight simply because of their reputation? I have, and I hate it. I can't comprehend how you construe my somewhat subtle attempt at working against that as scummy.

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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 17:35 GMT
#355
marv, how do you feel about some of his followup to that vote?

Were DYH's comments scummy as shit? Do DYH's comments justify swapping a vote from another player you find scummy as shit, when that vote is only 25 minutes or so old?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 18:13 GMT
#379
On December 01 2012 03:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I suppose no one but me is interested in Ace's marv vote, right?

Everyone scared or something?

Ace care to share with the class?

I actually wasn't interested by it. Not currently inclined to vote marv.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 18:22 GMT
#386
On December 01 2012 03:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:13 austinmcc wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I suppose no one but me is interested in Ace's marv vote, right?

Everyone scared or something?

Ace care to share with the class?

I actually wasn't interested by it. Not currently inclined to vote marv.


care to commentate on what you provoked with me and debears?

I still don't think debears has good reasons for his vote, no matter how many times he references vets or DYH trying to undermine Ace, or anything like that. Nothing...new generated from him, so right now he's still on the scummy side of things for me.

As to you...mild town read based on your pursuit of this and your dislike of his votes.

There's not a lot of substance yet that's come out of this though. You're pursuing something I sort of did last night, and he's answering, so far, in more or less the same way as he has been. It's more of the same, and so nothing has dropped out of the conversation yet that really triggers a reaction from me.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 18:26 GMT
#388
On December 01 2012 03:21 Zealos wrote:
Because explaining it could potentially ruin his "plan" which is pretty likely to fail anyway, but we may as well give him the benefit of the doubt with 27ish hours left of the day.
Dandel Ion (now DI) said he'd be gone because it's Friday.

So we're waiting for a response from someone who explicitly said he wouldn't be here. While it may partially ruin debears' ability to confirm whether DI is doing whatever debears thinks DI is doing, I'm more interested in debears right now than what DI may or may not have been doing yesterday.

I'd rather debears explain what he's thinking, not drag his heels and have more time to respond, and be up front about his thoughts. DI can confirm later or not.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 18:30 GMT
#389
On December 01 2012 03:24 marvellosity wrote:
I don't really agree it's more of the same. He's making post-hoc explanations that contradict his earlier ones, which he had not done previously.

I'm curious you don't pick up on this.

"made little sense for a scum to do it also" and "DI doing blah blah does make sense from a scum perspective" aren't as super-contradictory to me.

The rest of his posting today, the stuff concerning vets, sheeping, Ace, all that jazz, are more of the same to me. I see less contradiction and more harping on the same stuff that I didn't like before.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2012 18:44 GMT
#393
On December 01 2012 02:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Reading what I've missed y'all, hopefully there's more than discussing whether or not people are going to sheep Ace. :/

Beyond debears and Ace's marv vote, did anything, or the lack of some things, interest you?



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