Paranoia Mafia - Page 8

On December 04 2012 08:18 debears wrote:
I just don't see it bugs...

1) You hard defend someone you have a strong town read on
2) You let them die over someone you aren't sure about (DP over DYH)
3) Your town read gets lynched and you flip out on town although you did literally nothing in terms of
a) providing evidence he was town
b) being there at the lynch to sway votes off of him

Doesn't make no sense. I'm truly sorry if you are town, but I don't see a town perspective in this situation. I really don't

On December 04 2012 11:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok, WBG I'm putting as a scumread.
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On December 04 2012 12:56 Keirathi wrote:

I agree with the premise of it. There almost certainly was at least one scum on the DP vote. I personally still think BH is that scum because of my meta case, but I can understand why people don't believe so because of his unvote. And I do have a town read on debears myself.

On December 04 2012 13:35 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm actually liking a WBG lynch less as this goes on, not more.

On December 04 2012 13:51 Keirathi wrote:

I've said multiple times why I think BH is scummy. Even ignoring the roleblock thing, look at my meta case on him. BH hasn't been interacting with people, trying to get them to talk about his scum reads. He just throws a name and case out there, argues with that person, then moves on when its pertinent, and I don't think switching votes from one townie to the other at the last second, when BH's scum meta is to be trolly and 'suboptimal', makes up for that. But other people aren't buying it, so I've stopped trying to push him for now.

As for Lazer:



Particularly that post gave me a townie feel. This was after his big fight with DP, and calling Zealos out. Why would scum LM then, seeing austin doing something that could be considered "scummy", engage him by trying to get him to give reads and start discussion? It would make much more sense for scum LM to just call out austin and leave it at that.

On December 04 2012 14:08 Keirathi wrote:
@debears:

What do you think about ShiaoPi?

On December 04 2012 14:32 Keirathi wrote:

If his lack of presence is the most worrying thing, why Lazer over Zealos, who hasn't done a goddamn thing?

Lazer might have OMGUS voted DP, but that's at least SOMETHING. Zealos was a non-factor day 1 and day 2.

On December 04 2012 20:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
BH I see you got a town read on ShiaoPi. Or at least not a scum read as of yet. Like I said earlier, I think his interactions with VE aren't very telling because VE could've tricked us hard anyway. However, as I wrote in my case earlier, what do you think about the fact that he basically always have been attacking the person that is under the most pressure, always jumping off the person when there are noone left chasing him? And I also don't think his reasons for chasing these persons have been super strong. Long story short, I have scum reads on both Shiao and WBG, why should I vote WBG over Shiao?

On December 04 2012 22:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
EBWOP: Obviously that isn't always the case. If someone is suuuper scummy D1 and then gets replaced you want to look into the replacement alot. But I don't think that is the case with Ace.

On December 04 2012 23:47 sandroba wrote:
Adressing points on debears case:
1) WBG defended DP, but didn't care DYH was lynched.
I would have mislynched DYH 100% D1 if not for his vigi claim. As I've stated before I thought his case on xatalos was utter bullshit and was very convinced of this guy being scum before replacing in. It doesn't surprise me that WBG didn't care if DYH got lynched instead of DP, which he had a town read on. Now as to why he didn't push DYH instead of going for marv I don't know, but I have to admit that marv's claim was pretty sketchy and I had to think real hard before determining he was likely town. "I am DT" in the middle of D1 with slight pressure on him, followed by "I might not be sane" after people start unvoting him looks suspicious as fuck, specially when you are biased because the dude is being a dick in the thread. For mafia it would make way more sense and be way easier to simply ignore marv and try to get into one of the main alternate wagons. Since you say WBG had no qualms lynching DYH why would he not as mafia simply jump on his wagon instead of trying to get marv lynched. Surely you can imagine the backlash he would suffer once marv flipped DT.

2)Vote on marv
I adressed this on the block above.

3)Bunch of random facts
stating facts and saying that they are scummy does not make it so. 'nuff said

4)bunch of random facts
see above

5) Meta comparison to mad men
I thought he was mafia on mad men. I then learned he wasn't. Your comparison is good for proving he is likely town this game though. You see, wbg and erandor had a much closer relationship than you-him. WBG expected erandor to identify he is town and got pissed off and raged in the thread. Simillar to how he expects better of marv and raged in the thread/assumed he was scum for playing like shit D1. The fact that he didn't adress your points can be explained by how he doesn't know your play/doesn't expect much from you and sees no needs to adress a case that has no traction. I doesn't mean he is auto mafia for ignoring you, sorry.

6) claims meta is the same even if you say it isn't
yes. so?

On December 02 2012 07:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
why does it matter, prplhz thought he was dying just like you.

scum do whatever they want to live when they think they're gonna die

On December 02 2012 07:45 Hopeless1der wrote:


Xatalos (1)
Blazinghand, DoYouHas, VisceraEyes, Zealos

DoYouHas (1)
Xatalos, debears, MrZentor, MrZentor

marvellosity (2)
Ace, Blazinghand, wherebugsgo, debears, MrZentor, Blazinghand, Ace

Lazermonkey (1)
wherebugsgo, DarthPunk

DarthPunk (6)<---- Gonna get lynched
BlazingHand, Blazinghand, Lazermonkey, marvellosity, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes, DoYouHas, debears

Blazinghand (1)
Ace, ShiaoPi

Zealos (2)
wherebugsgo, VisceraEyes, Xatalos, austinmcc

Not Voting (1)
Dandel Ion

~15 minutes until deadline
Please notify me of any errors in the votecount

On December 02 2012 08:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
you fucking retards

On December 04 2012 08:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
and for the record the reason I wasn't around at lynch time was because I was playing dota.