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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 07 2012 22:20 GMT
#1935
On December 08 2012 07:17 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 06:54 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:51 debears wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:49 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:48 debears wrote:
actually i'm strongly considering shiaopi

I'm way more certain he's scum over which of sandro/austin is

we get a scum lynch and then put of mylo for two more lynches (right?)

We end up back in the same situation. All scum has to do from now on is send sandro to do the kills. Even if I see anything, it's sandro again, and not like that's going to change the information we have.



Guys what do you think of that snap reaction by austin?

Is that mafia logic or watcher logic?????

It makes sense from both.

In the same vein, you had me paranoid for a moment that this was a mafia attempt to shift things onto ShiaoPi as a mislynch, and avoid the 1 for 1 today, and waste town's time tomorrow because Sandroba would be super apparent as mafia.

I don't think that's what is happening, I much prefer scum ShiaoPi to scum you. But any action can be WIFOMed like that.


Lol. You know what I am paranoid about.

You and sandro both being scum o.O

It would be an epic strategy on your guys' part if you are both scum


LOL
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 07 2012 22:20 GMT
#1936
On December 08 2012 07:17 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 06:54 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:51 debears wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:49 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:48 debears wrote:
actually i'm strongly considering shiaopi

I'm way more certain he's scum over which of sandro/austin is

we get a scum lynch and then put of mylo for two more lynches (right?)

We end up back in the same situation. All scum has to do from now on is send sandro to do the kills. Even if I see anything, it's sandro again, and not like that's going to change the information we have.



Guys what do you think of that snap reaction by austin?

Is that mafia logic or watcher logic?????

It makes sense from both.

In the same vein, you had me paranoid for a moment that this was a mafia attempt to shift things onto ShiaoPi as a mislynch, and avoid the 1 for 1 today, and waste town's time tomorrow because Sandroba would be super apparent as mafia.

I don't think that's what is happening, I much prefer scum ShiaoPi to scum you. But any action can be WIFOMed like that.


Lol. You know what I am paranoid about.

You and sandro both being scum o.O

It would be an epic strategy on your guys' part if you are both scum


That would really be the double bus of the decade.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 07 2012 22:31 GMT
#1941
It really is a weird setup. But I doubt it's LYLO/MYLO yet... That would be just too fast, only allowing two mislynches (with one Mafia dead already too).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#1963
Woah. I'm really glad you put in so much effort to turn the tide, austinmcc. I still don't get your Day 2 play but Sandroba dug his own grave by not even trying today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 07 2012 23:09 GMT
#1965
LOL. By the way, I had 2 out of 3 right with my original scumreads (VE, DYH, Dandel). Trust in my intuition
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:04 GMT
#1975
I actually started this post with "I'm reconsidering if ShiaoPi is Mafia", since Sandroba seemed more than happy to lynch him even when there were other options available earlier, but... Just look at ShiaoPi. He's been totally unimpactful and useless during this game. Even his defense of austinmcc was extremely lackluster, more like a show than an actual effort to save him. And in all likeliness it WAS just a show to look better after austinmcc's flip. The other explanation is that ShiaoPi is playing anti-town and not really caring if his scumreads or townreads get lynched (whichever is fine with me, but I totally care about town!).

The other remaining scummy player is Lazermonkey (I guess there have to be 4 Mafia considering we have tons of blue roles as well). Here he says he'll have lots of time today:

On December 07 2012 06:20 Lazermonkey wrote:
Btw, I'm going to bed now. Will have alot of time tomorrow.


What does he do today? Basically.... nothing at all. He could have as well been invisible. He did make some posts, but nothing to make even the slightest difference concerning the lynch. This is not how town caring about the lynch plays. This is how Mafia caring only about himself plays.

To sum up the situation, we have:

Practically confirmed townies
BlazingHand
MrZentor
Keirathi

Very likely townies based on activity and effort (and other things)
austinmcc
debears

Likely Mafia
ShiaoPi
Lazermonkey

From the looks of it, this game is pretty much over already. We can almost certainly still afford 1/2 mislynches, but if ShiaoPi/Lazermonkey are both Mafia (which almost must be the case, unless there's only one Mafia left), we should win even if we couldn't afford any more mislynches. I'm pretty certain that we have 4 Mafia, or this setup would be just too unfair for Mafia. Even then, this is feeling a bit too easy, and the setup is called "paranoia", so I'm a bit paranoid. Maybe there's some dangerous third role? Or maybe the Mafia have still some ace up their sleeves?

Who knows. But the important question now is, should we lynch ShiaoPi or Lazermonkey first. Whichever is fine with me, although I think I'd prefer ShiaoPi. Opinions?

austinmcc, I think you should definitely watch Keirathi or BlazingHand (*maybe* MrZentor...). I'm pretty sure that one of them will be hit tonight. Or maybe you'll get killed, but there isn't really anything you could do about that. I think it's almost impossible that I or debears would be killed, considering that we're the only realistic mislynch options left at this point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:07 GMT
#1976
On December 08 2012 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
you did! you really did. lol well good thing nobody listend to me except you


Yeah, it's all your fault that we almost mislynched! Lesson learned: don't listen to BlazingHand
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:07 GMT
#1977
On December 08 2012 09:02 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 08:42 Blazinghand wrote:
really though shiaopi was setting up to look good after an austinmcc flip by "opposing" it and doing nothing to stop it. plus all the other reasons he's scum.

he's so scum.

I actually think LazerMonkey looks way worse than ShiaoPi right now.


Why so?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 00:13 GMT
#1978
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 15:57 GMT
#1993
LOL. We won already? Now I'm really glad we chose to spare austin And good job, austin, this is because you did so well yesterday. Can you imagine if you had played like Sandroba/LM/ShiaoPi after your claim... No way could you have survived. And I really wonder about Sandroba, I think he had extremely good chances to mislynch yesterday, but he didn't put in any effort to appear townish - blindly trusting in our confirmation bias regarding austin's claim.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 17:58 GMT
#2002
Read through ScumQT and ObsQT. It's always equally hilarious to see the other perspectives to how the game played out I have to agree, though, Mafia seemed a bit unfavored in this setup (although it would have been balanced quite nicely if DYH hadn't shot correctly, so I guess it's okay, considering it's always hard for Mafia if Vigi shoots correctly). I can kind of relate to Sandroba for giving up, but I think it was pretty lame for the overall enjoyment. The last day was fun nonetheless (thanks austinmcc for providing such a townie atmosphere!) and the whole game had lots of exciting moments. I'm also glad I got my first town victory
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 08 2012 19:09 GMT
#2006
On December 09 2012 03:50 DoYouHas wrote:
Well, I definitely had my share of bad play this game. But at least I shot well and my most certain scumread was actually scum.

gg


Good job on shooting VE! And you were right about LM, yeah. Not about me though
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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