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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 03 2012 22:45 GMT
#1241
On December 04 2012 07:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
let me make it red for you:

Show nested quote +
didn't really have one, since I didn't look into his posts on d1. I think I read his posts more carefully after BH said he found DYH to be scummy.


So you did look at his posts day 1? Why even say you didn't then and then say "oh i did after this"

I don't get your actions at all this game from a town perspective bugs
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 03 2012 22:46 GMT
#1242
Also bugs, since you didn't have a read on DYH, why didn't you switch your vote to him over DP, whom, based on your actions, you had a strong town read on?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 03 2012 22:48 GMT
#1243
EBWOP

switch your vote over to DYH from marv to save DP
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 03 2012 23:13 GMT
#1244
because I wasn't there when the vote switch happened.

I was aware that BH wanted to kill DYH (he wanted to kill a lot of people) and so I looked at DYH's posts. That was probably the only time I did. I have no idea at what point during day 1 it was but it was definitely before the vote switch. I didn't find him to be scummy so I just ignored it.

Secondly, even if I was there I wasn't going to switch my vote from marv to DYH given the fact that my default reaction is to call someone town. I would only ever switch to ensure a lynch in a no-lynch situation. I'm not going to play eenie meeny miny moe because you idiots want to kill someone I have a townread on.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 03 2012 23:17 GMT
#1245
and for the record the reason I wasn't around at lynch time was because I was playing dota.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 03 2012 23:18 GMT
#1246
I just don't see it bugs...

1) You hard defend someone you have a strong town read on
2) You let them die over someone you aren't sure about (DP over DYH)
3) Your town read gets lynched and you flip out on town although you did literally nothing in terms of
a) providing evidence he was town
b) being there at the lynch to sway votes off of him

Doesn't make no sense. I'm truly sorry if you are town, but I don't see a town perspective in this situation. I really don't
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 03 2012 23:19 GMT
#1247
cool, I was right. You're biased and bad. Let's move on.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 03 2012 23:19 GMT
#1248
@MrZentor:

It's been 24 hours. Any new revelations?

Care to share a read or two now?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 03 2012 23:19 GMT
#1249
also I let them die. ROFL. Yes, I let five people vote for DP. Yes, I, the lone voice against the DP lynch, allowed him to die.

Sounds about right.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 03 2012 23:20 GMT
#1250
actually to be fair Ace agreed with me, but the level of stupidity scared him off methinks
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 03 2012 23:41 GMT
#1251
I want to kill Shiaopi.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 03 2012 23:44 GMT
#1252
On December 04 2012 08:41 MrZentor wrote:
I want to kill Shiaopi.

Any reasoning of your own?

You never mentioned ShiaoPi once until WBG proposed that we lynch him and you said "A target I can more or less agree with".
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 03 2012 23:55 GMT
#1253
On December 04 2012 08:18 debears wrote:
I just don't see it bugs...

1) You hard defend someone you have a strong town read on
2) You let them die over someone you aren't sure about (DP over DYH)
3) Your town read gets lynched and you flip out on town although you did literally nothing in terms of
a) providing evidence he was town
b) being there at the lynch to sway votes off of him

Doesn't make no sense. I'm truly sorry if you are town, but I don't see a town perspective in this situation. I really don't


Can someone other not named bugs plz give me some input on the case + this train of thought?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 03 2012 23:55 GMT
#1254
or named DYH for that matter
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 04 2012 00:07 GMT
#1255
I have narrowed the mafia down to five people.

I can't decide which of those I want to kill.

But ShiaoPi is on the list and WBG wants to kills him, so why not?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 00:12 GMT
#1256
On December 04 2012 09:07 MrZentor wrote:
I have narrowed the mafia down to five people.

I can't decide which of those I want to kill.

But ShiaoPi is on the list and WBG wants to kills him, so why not?

I don't care WHO you want to kill. I want to know WHY you want to kill them.

Good god you're frustrating.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 00:13 GMT
#1257
On December 04 2012 08:55 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 08:18 debears wrote:
I just don't see it bugs...

1) You hard defend someone you have a strong town read on
2) You let them die over someone you aren't sure about (DP over DYH)
3) Your town read gets lynched and you flip out on town although you did literally nothing in terms of
a) providing evidence he was town
b) being there at the lynch to sway votes off of him

Doesn't make no sense. I'm truly sorry if you are town, but I don't see a town perspective in this situation. I really don't


Can someone other not named bugs plz give me some input on the case + this train of thought?

I agree with DYH's response to your case. I don't really see bugs as scum, and there's no way I would want to lynch him today.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
December 04 2012 00:23 GMT
#1258
@Bugs:
Since you seem to be convinced that I am scum, care sharing the non-tl:dr-reasons for that?

@Lazer:
you fucking suck, I don't even want to start where your "case" is bad.
You still have not read what I wrote regarding Xatalos (or you are just too thick to read properly),
Regarding BH, I tried to get more out of him during the time I was online, look here:
On December 01 2012 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
-snip-
I'm more interested in BH now. I know that his metareading is pretty good(see liquid city) but I dont agree at all with his read on DP, I also cant see how he can be that sure of it right now....
BH you here right now? What makes you so certain? Also did your opinion change on DP following his spat with lazer?


Well sucks to be in me in my timezone, but there is only so much you can do if nobody is around for the time you are.
If you think my reasons to vote Keirathi are OMGUS you really need to properly reread what the term omgus means......

Now what about you share some of your reads in thread? Do you got any other reads besides me? What is your opinion on Keirathi or Bugs?

@Kei:

I am seemingly going along with the flow since nobody is online/willing to discuss stuff when I am in the thread....
It is hard to be around for discussion when nobody else is.

@debears:
Your case ain't bad, the thing is I read it and then I think bugs is scum, I go read the responses you got with it and I think, well actually bugs is not that scummy. The main thing which annoys me with bugs is that he is not showing "evidence", he did not when he was pushing marv now he is doing it again with me.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 04 2012 00:32 GMT
#1259
Yo debears I think your case is pretty funny. =)
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 00:52 GMT
#1260
On December 04 2012 00:24 ShiaoPi wrote:
*snip*
BH:
Fuck what I said, I am leaning town on him now.

*snip*

Now on to the good stuff: Keirathi
Obviously my changed read on BH is important for a red kei. but let's start from looking at ace:
-He has been dickish, trolly and unhelpful, not exactly a scumtell but it adds to the entire picture.
-What makes me wonder is especially the parts in his filter with "shiao/debears/DYH"-interaction and "shiao/VE/DP"-interaction. I do not remember having thoroughly interacted much with DYH, there were some questions from debears which I answered, also I did not interact with VE/DP in a remarkable kind of way. So I have no clue where he got this from, conclusions he does not read the thread thoroughly and makes shit up as he goes to appear contributing.
Moving on to Kei now,
While I initially agreed with a lot of his points against BH, I was also in the game from the beginning. Now with a clear reread I do not read BH as scummy anymore, from someone who replaces in I would expect him to have a clear mindset as well and I believe Keirathi to be a good enough player to be able to come to the same conclusion as I did. The entire amount of tunneling onto BH as an "easy" target seems to me like an attempt to just derail the entire thread into bascially the same discussion we had at the end of d1. Also the complete disregard for anything else, why? Cuz scum!


Why are you leaning town on him now? What in your read through changed your mind? Why do you think I should have come to the same conclusion?

That's what I'm talking about when I say you just flow with the popular opinion at the time.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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