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On December 02 2012 05:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, that's where I'm at with Zealos too austin, which puts me at a crossroads because Zealos also voted for Xatalos.
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MARV COME HERE I WANT YOU yeah i don't like any of it. I'm hesitant on Zealos because his play always comes across as super weakly to me. Although why he keeps referring to some game which was more than half my mafia career ago I have no idea. Xatalos has managed to post so much without saying almost anything which is irritating. What makes me hesitant is that I can understand his thought process on some things. I also am having an extremely hard time getting town reads this game, and the timing of your debears case did seem opportunistic at the time (not even saying that's what it was, but I had that gut reaction at the time reading the thread). Ace is a dick bugs is a dick Zentor is Zentor ShiaoPi is pointless All DYH has done is talk about Xatalos Dandel has sat on his arse doing nothing literally all day. I think... I want to lynch DarthPunk. I found his early defence of Xatalos quite bizarre and unnecessary. Not only this, it has been quite out of play with his subsequent play. DarthPunk tells us he was "feeling protective" of newbie Xatalos. But he treats Lazermonkey, someone with not many games and with similar standing in the game, as a piece of fucking shit on the bottom of his shoe. He also calls the whole thread useless and retards, which jarred at the point that a lot of us were genuinely trying to talk through Xatalos and other matters. It was just shitty ranting for the sake of shitty ranting. I'm also not picking up any of the towntells I normally get from DP. They might just be absent and he's town, but I don't think so. He's aggressive without being helpful and I think we should lynch him today. ##vote: DarthPunk
I think there are many better lynch candidates out there than DarthPunk. He has been active and transparent with his opinions. Any of Zealos, ShiaoPi, VE, DYH, Dandel Ion would make for a better lynch. Why DarthPunk over all these other players?
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because I think DP has a higher chance of flipping scum than any of those players for reasons i just gave.
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For anyone who's particularly concerned about Zealos's vote on Xatalos indicating Zealos is scum...here's my hangup.
WHY WOULD SCUM DROP A VOTE LIKE THAT?
When it comes down to "scumZealos is trying to look like he's not just jumping on board a lynch" and "townZealos is dropping a vote without a good explanation" ... I lean towards the townZealos option. I know that you may want to justify a vote as scum, but...that's not the way to do it.
Right? That's where my head is at right now on Zealos. Without that vote, he's scummy. With that vote, I have more trouble thinking that he's scum.
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Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum?
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Blazing Hand - marv Scum team? Is it possible that isn't a gimp pairing?
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On December 02 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote:
For anyone who's particularly concerned about Zealos's vote on Xatalos indicating Zealos is scum...here's my hangup.
WHY WOULD SCUM DROP A VOTE LIKE THAT?
When it comes down to "scumZealos is trying to look like he's not just jumping on board a lynch" and "townZealos is dropping a vote without a good explanation" ... I lean towards the townZealos option. I know that you may want to justify a vote as scum, but...that's not the way to do it.
Right? That's where my head is at right now on Zealos. Without that vote, he's scummy. With that vote, I have more trouble thinking that he's scum.
don't do that
I lynched Zealos in that game he keeps mentioning (magic mini) because he voted for someone on day 1 who he said would probably flip town.
in other words the vote was epically bad, and it was scummy, in that game.
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On December 02 2012 05:28 Ace wrote:
Blazing Hand - marv Scum team? Is it possible that isn't a gimp pairing?
Ace-Ace full on retard team
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On December 02 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote:
For anyone who's particularly concerned about Zealos's vote on Xatalos indicating Zealos is scum...here's my hangup.
WHY WOULD SCUM DROP A VOTE LIKE THAT?
When it comes down to "scumZealos is trying to look like he's not just jumping on board a lynch" and "townZealos is dropping a vote without a good explanation" ... I lean towards the townZealos option. I know that you may want to justify a vote as scum, but...that's not the way to do it.
Right? That's where my head is at right now on Zealos. Without that vote, he's scummy. With that vote, I have more trouble thinking that he's scum.
what the fuck? scum drop votes like that all the time. They're not backed heavily by justification, or they're backed by "justification" that is made to look as if a contribution is being made.
Was what Zealos said real contribution or was it "contribution"? I think the answer to that is fairly self-evident.
The vote itself is null at worst.
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On December 02 2012 05:25 marvellosity wrote:
because I think DP has a higher chance of flipping scum than any of those players for reasons i just gave.
I think you're putting too much weight into metagames. I'd say it's better to lynch someone who is acting scummy in the thread than someone who might be playing according to his scum meta (or not). You guessed my alignment correctly once when I was Mafia and you were observing based on meta, but meta shouldn't be the only or even primary tool of playing.
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On December 02 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum?
?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be.
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On December 02 2012 05:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:25 marvellosity wrote:
because I think DP has a higher chance of flipping scum than any of those players for reasons i just gave. I think you're putting too much weight into metagames. I'd say it's better to lynch someone who is acting scummy in the thread than someone who might be playing according to his scum meta (or not). You guessed my alignment correctly once when I was Mafia and you were observing based on meta, but meta shouldn't be the only or even primary tool of playing.
don't tell me how to play.
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On December 02 2012 05:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum? ?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be.
Come up with some comparisons of his play here to play in past games that actually show what you're saying.
So far you just seem like you're full of shit, since I can't see what you're talking about. Prove me wrong or I'll start gunning to kill you, since your reasons so far all game have been god awful.
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On December 02 2012 05:31 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum? ?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be. Come up with some comparisons of his play here to play in past games that actually show what you're saying. So far you just seem like you're full of shit, since I can't see what you're talking about. Prove me wrong or I'll start gunning to kill you, since your reasons so far all game have been god awful.
coming from the cesspool of shite that is you, that's rich.
fuck off, bugs.
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Xata, bugs switch your votes to marv. I think he's Scum.
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On December 02 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, that's where I'm at with Zealos too austin, which puts me at a crossroads because Zealos also voted for Xatalos.
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MARV COME HERE I WANT YOU Why exactly are you voting Xatalos? He's scum hiding inside a tunnel = he's doing nothing but tunneling someone as a way to look active when he's doing nothing?
That's the idea, but honestly I concede that it could just be emotion clouding my judgement.
Having gone over some filters, I'm less inclined to lynch Xata because A) he's more active than over half the game, and B) in spite of his primary target being a townie, he's saying other things I agree with.
I'm MORE inclined to lynch Dandel, as his posting has been terrible, and he's done literally nothing. And he's not even like, absent - he's got about a page of filter inside the game (non-pre-game) and I don't like any of it.
Shiao is.......I want to wait on Shiao. At least a day. Maybe tomorrow. I'm not really reading Shiao as scum right now.
debears is doing enough and contributing enough to earn a day as well.
Blazinghand is....very Blazinghand this game. Honestly, I don't like what I'm seeing. The whole "Here's a case...NEVERMIND IT'S BAD" doesn't read very scum-like, but the rest of his filter does. I could lynch Blazinghand today.
I did NOT filter DP, as his activity rang town to me for some reason. I'll go take a look.
As it stands, I'm willing to lynch inside [Zealos, Dandel, Blazinghand] today. In that order.
##Unvote
##Vote: Zealos
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On December 02 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum? ?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be. Come up with some comparisons of his play here to play in past games that actually show what you're saying. So far you just seem like you're full of shit, since I can't see what you're talking about. Prove me wrong or I'll start gunning to kill you, since your reasons so far all game have been god awful. coming from the cesspool of shite that is you, that's rich. fuck off, bugs.
so your response to me questioning your case is to get pissy and tell me to fuck off?
Cool, you went from "probably town" to "probably scum" in a matter of 5 minutes. Prepare your anus for the tunneling you're about to receive.
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DYH. Xatalos has been teleported out of this game. He's gone. The end.
Which remaining player is your biggest scumread? Biggest townread? Biggest "WHAT IS THIS PERSON DOOOOIIIIIIING?" read?
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Don't lynch Zealos- he's town. He's defending other people, which is what he does as town. Town Zealos in Bureacracy criticizes other people's cases on other people, and lobs around the occasional weak post without really contributing substantially. Stuff like "waht makes him any more s cummy than me". He also dogs the same guy (me, in this case) over and over again until he gets what he wants. he's not captain active-- he comments on other cases and doesn't make big case posts very often. Scum Zealos in LV makes multi-pronged posts. Scum zealos in MTG vote-hops a LOT. Also in MTG he qualifies (see interactions with Hiro) and phrases things as questions rather than just calling him scummy (as he does with his targets in Burea when town). A note about HiroPro/Zealos interaction in MTF is that Zealos is attacking Hiropro's case not like he usual does "oh, this doesn't make sense, please elaborate" but just by calling it bad and voting Hiropro after a small argument.
I don't think he's playing great but Zealos is not a good lynch today.
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VE so put your vote on BH then? Zealos started at 0 votes, BH had 2. Why tie it up with your vote? If you want to see one of them hang then why not lynch the guy with the most votes?
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On December 02 2012 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 05:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum? ?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be. Come up with some comparisons of his play here to play in past games that actually show what you're saying. So far you just seem like you're full of shit, since I can't see what you're talking about. Prove me wrong or I'll start gunning to kill you, since your reasons so far all game have been god awful. coming from the cesspool of shite that is you, that's rich. fuck off, bugs. so your response to me questioning your case is to get pissy and tell me to fuck off? Cool, you went from "probably town" to "probably scum" in a matter of 5 minutes. Prepare your anus for the tunneling you're about to receive.
bring it...
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