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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 01 2012 17:08 GMT
#621
On December 02 2012 01:44 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
gonna unvote bugs for now, his explanation seems kinda plausible.

##unvote

DP seems to be needlessly aggressive. I don't like that at all.


Isn't DP usually needlessly aggressive as town and more amicable as scum?


no, the opposite
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 01 2012 17:13 GMT
#622
I'm quite suspicious of austin for showing up yesterday to make 2 irrelevant posts then disappearing again. Hum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 01 2012 17:19 GMT
#623
On December 01 2012 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
Hey lazer you still interested in me? I dont think so, seeing you entangled with DP now...just for housekeeping purpose go read my posts if you still think tgat i am not responding to you.
I'm more interested in BH now. I know that his metareading is pretty good(see liquid city) but I dont agree at all with his read on DP, I also cant see how he can be that sure of it right now....
BH you here right now? What makes you so certain? Also did your opinion change on DP following his spat with lazer?
Bolded part is wut? You write this, yet this is the first post since I called you out and you left. You say your more intrested in BH now, what happend with Xata? You STILL have not given a satisfying reason to your strange behavior earlier but instead try to ignore it by saying that I haven't properly read some parts of your filter. Care to enlighten me?

You then make a couple of posts saying that you are not really sure what to think of BH and then ends up voting him anyway?

I am still interested in you. You are my second highest scum read at this point. And you did a very poor job of convincing me otherwise.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 01 2012 17:20 GMT
#624
@everyone: Thoughts about ShiaoPi
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 01 2012 17:29 GMT
#625
On December 02 2012 01:48 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 00:58 debears wrote:
On December 02 2012 00:53 Ace wrote:
man half of you guys are utter shit at this game. Stop fucking going back to past games and read what the fuck you see HERE. You're shitting up the thread with shit that doesn't even matter.


I see him as scummy here for not doing anything. He claims his d1 pattern is saying nothing for most of d1 as defense. I show him that he's wrong

How is that not related to this game?

Agreed. Looking at what is happening HERE, all I am seeing is an angry Vet making no real contribution to the game.

Btw, I had a mad friday, and have been busy most of today, so I won't really have time to add much till the lynch. I will be more involved in the coming days, but until then I'm pretty useless.

One thing I have noticed is that Marv seems to be playing differently than how I remember him. I played a scumgame against his Town play, and he was aggressive, asking a ton of questions, and wouldn't rest till he had me killed. This game he seems to be acting much more passively...
Why is this? There are plenty of time untill the lynch=alot of time to make reads. Your filter is empty as you yourself point out. But that is not the most alarming IMO. You really haven't been scum hunting at all. You have a few null or slight town reads but most of all you are being extremly wish washy.

You say Ace looks like an angry vet with no contribution. Does this make Ace scum do you think? You say marv plays differently, but does that make him scum? You say you don't think Debears is scum, although you provide no analysis. You don't think Xata is scum. What do you think then?

##FoS Zealos
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2012 17:33 GMT
#626
On December 02 2012 02:13 marvellosity wrote:
I'm quite suspicious of austin for showing up yesterday to make 2 irrelevant posts then disappearing again. Hum.

austin's not as active as marv would like D1

therefore, austin is ________
Fe fi fo fum.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 01 2012 17:44 GMT
#627
On December 02 2012 00:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
I looked over DYH's filter and to be honest I think BH to be scummier. Ther are a couple of things that strike me as suspicious, the whole ace is dangerous and xata is noob thing but I also agree with the questions he had for BH. So I want to see some repsonses fom BH right now, unfortunately he seems to be absent...


Really? To me, BH is the most townie person here. There is no way a mafia would make a case and a few minutes later just tell everybody to ignore it. Mafia don't want to be in the spotlight, and bizarre behavior like that puts them in it.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 01 2012 17:53 GMT
#628
I'm here. I'm reading. Get used to it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 01 2012 17:55 GMT
#629
On December 02 2012 01:25 ShiaoPi wrote:
So who do you want to lynch Xata? Which of the three is scummiest to you?


VisceraEyes at the moment. DoYouHas and Dandel Ion haven't made any actual effort to contribute, but they haven't done anything outright scummy either. I'm most suspicious of VE's opportunistic vote for debears and his lack of interest to do pretty much anything useful after that.

On December 02 2012 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
and yeah, Dandel has been pretty shocking. Seems like he signed up and now isn't bothering to play the game :/


Any other comments? I wrote that wall of text about my meta after all :/

On December 02 2012 02:19 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
Hey lazer you still interested in me? I dont think so, seeing you entangled with DP now...just for housekeeping purpose go read my posts if you still think tgat i am not responding to you.
I'm more interested in BH now. I know that his metareading is pretty good(see liquid city) but I dont agree at all with his read on DP, I also cant see how he can be that sure of it right now....
BH you here right now? What makes you so certain? Also did your opinion change on DP following his spat with lazer?
Bolded part is wut? You write this, yet this is the first post since I called you out and you left. You say your more intrested in BH now, what happend with Xata? You STILL have not given a satisfying reason to your strange behavior earlier but instead try to ignore it by saying that I haven't properly read some parts of your filter. Care to enlighten me?

You then make a couple of posts saying that you are not really sure what to think of BH and then ends up voting him anyway?

I am still interested in you. You are my second highest scum read at this point. And you did a very poor job of convincing me otherwise.


I agree that ShiaoPi's flip-flopping and throwaway vote for BH don't look good for him. It could be just indecisive town who ran out of time, but why BH? ShiaoPi doesn't look like he even has an actual scum read on BH...? I don't think ShiaoPi is a good lynch for today but someone to watch carefully going forward.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 01 2012 17:58 GMT
#630
HOW WAS MY VOTE OPPORTUNISTIC?! I PROVIDED REASONING THAT WAS NOT ONLY ORIGINAL BUT SOUND!

##Unvote
##Vote: Xatalos


Enough is enough. Xatalos is either scum hiding inside a tunnel or really really bad town. Considering the way he posts, I'm ruling out town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 01 2012 17:59 GMT
#631
On December 02 2012 02:44 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 00:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
I looked over DYH's filter and to be honest I think BH to be scummier. Ther are a couple of things that strike me as suspicious, the whole ace is dangerous and xata is noob thing but I also agree with the questions he had for BH. So I want to see some repsonses fom BH right now, unfortunately he seems to be absent...


Really? To me, BH is the most townie person here. There is no way a mafia would make a case and a few minutes later just tell everybody to ignore it. Mafia don't want to be in the spotlight, and bizarre behavior like that puts them in it.
I somewhat agree with what MrZentor says here. While I don't think he is the most town looking person I still think it's quite unliklely for him to be scum. However, I do think there is a decent chance he is 3 party due to the massive amount of wierdness comming out from him.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 01 2012 18:06 GMT
#632
On December 02 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
HOW WAS MY VOTE OPPORTUNISTIC?! I PROVIDED REASONING THAT WAS NOT ONLY ORIGINAL BUT SOUND!

##Unvote
##Vote: Xatalos


Enough is enough. Xatalos is either scum hiding inside a tunnel or really really bad town. Considering the way he posts, I'm ruling out town.


You didn't even pursue it. You haven't posted about me in a while VE. Why isn't your vote still on me? You haven't stated anything changing your mind
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#633
You repeatedly drawing attention to yourself (i.e. asking Zealos why he thinks you're town, interacting with Ace after he'd mentioned he was watching you, etc) has bumped you up to null leaning scummy for me. My vote isn't on you because presently I find Xatalos to be scummier. He even admits that I'm not scummy, he's "suspicious" based on one vote at the beginning of the day and is discounting EVERYTHING I've posted since, simply dismissing it as "meaningless fluff". While I admit to a fair amount of fluff (the marv/Bugs/BH stuff a while ago) I have a fair amount of content as well, regarding you, regarding BH and Bugs, regarding Ace. None of this is fluff, it's ALL designed to help town find scum.

And instead of posting about my other suspicions as I wanted to do, now I'm forced to ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT WHY I'M NOT FUCKING VOTING FOR YOU!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 01 2012 18:28 GMT
#634
On December 02 2012 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
You repeatedly drawing attention to yourself (i.e. asking Zealos why he thinks you're town, interacting with Ace after he'd mentioned he was watching you, etc) has bumped you up to null leaning scummy for me. My vote isn't on you because presently I find Xatalos to be scummier. He even admits that I'm not scummy, he's "suspicious" based on one vote at the beginning of the day and is discounting EVERYTHING I've posted since, simply dismissing it as "meaningless fluff". While I admit to a fair amount of fluff (the marv/Bugs/BH stuff a while ago) I have a fair amount of content as well, regarding you, regarding BH and Bugs, regarding Ace. None of this is fluff, it's ALL designed to help town find scum.

And instead of posting about my other suspicions as I wanted to do, now I'm forced to ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT WHY I'M NOT FUCKING VOTING FOR YOU!


You're free to post other suspicions. I wanted an answer. That's suitable
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
December 01 2012 18:28 GMT
#635
On December 02 2012 02:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:48 Zealos wrote:
On December 02 2012 00:58 debears wrote:
On December 02 2012 00:53 Ace wrote:
man half of you guys are utter shit at this game. Stop fucking going back to past games and read what the fuck you see HERE. You're shitting up the thread with shit that doesn't even matter.


I see him as scummy here for not doing anything. He claims his d1 pattern is saying nothing for most of d1 as defense. I show him that he's wrong

How is that not related to this game?

Agreed. Looking at what is happening HERE, all I am seeing is an angry Vet making no real contribution to the game.

Btw, I had a mad friday, and have been busy most of today, so I won't really have time to add much till the lynch. I will be more involved in the coming days, but until then I'm pretty useless.

One thing I have noticed is that Marv seems to be playing differently than how I remember him. I played a scumgame against his Town play, and he was aggressive, asking a ton of questions, and wouldn't rest till he had me killed. This game he seems to be acting much more passively...
Why is this? There are plenty of time untill the lynch=alot of time to make reads. Your filter is empty as you yourself point out. But that is not the most alarming IMO. You really haven't been scum hunting at all. You have a few null or slight town reads but most of all you are being extremly wish washy.

You say Ace looks like an angry vet with no contribution. Does this make Ace scum do you think? You say marv plays differently, but does that make him scum? You say you don't think Debears is scum, although you provide no analysis. You don't think Xata is scum. What do you think then?

##FoS Zealos

I did give reasoning for debears. Ace I would call scum if he were a different player, but no one seems to be too keen to push him yet, so I'm willing to leave it for now. Plenty of time ≠ plenty of free time till lynch. I am pointing out marv plays differently. Perhaps scum, perhaps a blue trying to protect himself, may just be acting differently for no reason. I am saying what I am thinking and seeing in the thread. I have not outright called anyone scum yet, but I don't feel I have had enough time to read over to decide who deserves the lynch. I would say the earlier stuff with DI and debears was a little dodgy, but equally, it had too much read into it at the time.
The current votes on Xata seem to be the best bet for the time being. This is for instance seems a little.. odd...
On December 01 2012 04:16 Xatalos wrote:
Well, it's always good to post real content in my eyes. Maybe some of my suspicions faded, but I still don't have a good feeling about you (sorry ). Something about that post just feels forced... Like it were a tactical move to look better instead of actually having a beneficial effect on the thread.

I'm used to blowing things out of proportions though. I'll have to consider my vote a lot more until I can be satisfied with having catched a strongly likely Mafia.

The sorry in particular, along with the end of the post strike me as weird. "Hey, I think you might be mafia, really sorry about that. Also, for anyone reading this, I wouldn't listen to me, because I'm probably wrong, but at least I'm contributing right? Right?!

I don't really like using meta as an argument, so I'm gonna ignore trying to tie it in to his past games as mafia and/or town, but from what I've read so far, this guy seems the best lynch candidate.
##Vote:Xatalos
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
December 01 2012 18:36 GMT
#636
Xata, I find your recent wall of text post quite interesting. Why are you still defending yourself? Marv hasn't looked like he was going to push you for a while now, leaving just me voting you. Almost the entire focus of the thread had moved away from you. Against what perceived threat are you defending?

Why, when we are in the last 1/4 of the day, are you spreading your suspicion over 3 people instead of picking your pony and trying to get them lynched? You only state which of the 3 of us you find most suspicious when asked later. (Though, the choice probably wasn't that hard since your vote was already on VE.) You seem much more concerned with showing that you have a stance than actually pursuing someone's lynch.

The rest of you - This is not the behavior of a townie. Arguing against a non-existent threat shows that Xata is still feeling pressure long after it has stopped. This is because Xata feels the need to go the extra mile to prove he isn't scum (a scummy trait). Spreading suspicion around without actually trying to bring anyone around to lynching his target is also scummy play.

A vote for Xatalos is a vote for SCUM
Guts? Determination? $5?
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
December 01 2012 18:38 GMT
#637
EBWOP: ninjaed by Zealos. Good job Zealos.
Guts? Determination? $5?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 01 2012 18:39 GMT
#638
##Unvote WBG
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 01 2012 19:43 GMT
#639
Day 1 Vote Count


Xatalos (3) <------- gonna get lynched
DoYouHas
VisceraEyes
Zealos

Lazermonkey (2)
wherebugsgo
DarthPunk

DarthPunk(2)
Blazinghand
Lazermonkey

Blazinghand(2)
Ace
ShiaoPi

DoYouHas (1)
MrZentor

VisceraEyes (1)
Xatalos

Non - Voters (4)
Dandel Ion
debears
Austinmcc
marvellosity

Day 1 ends in ~3 hours.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 01 2012 19:46 GMT
#640
On December 02 2012 02:33 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 02:13 marvellosity wrote:
I'm quite suspicious of austin for showing up yesterday to make 2 irrelevant posts then disappearing again. Hum.

austin's not as active as marv would like D1

therefore, austin is ________


are you seriously just going to pop in a game with one sarcy post and leave again??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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