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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25554 Posts
December 01 2012 20:38 GMT
#681
er actually VE if you want to vote zealos that's better than voting me
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25554 Posts
December 01 2012 20:39 GMT
#682
I'm not super clear here am I actually getting lynched
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 01 2012 20:39 GMT
#683
We need to consolidate our votes. Too many people pointing too many fingers trying to get credit for being "the man". VOTE on candidates with the most votes already or I'm going to assume you are stalling the vote count so some moron can come in later and tip it over.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25554 Posts
December 01 2012 20:41 GMT
#684
can we get a vote count
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 01 2012 20:42 GMT
#685
I don't think my vote for VisceraEyes is doing anything right now, so I'm going to switch. I don't like lynching BH or DP at all so it has to be Zealos.

##Unvote
##Vote Zealos
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 01 2012 20:46 GMT
#686
On December 02 2012 05:33 Ace wrote:
Xata, bugs switch your votes to marv. I think he's Scum.


Why do you think marvellosity is Mafia? I don't agree with everything he's said but I don't see him being this active and influential in the discussion if he was Mafia. At least show some reasoning for that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 01 2012 20:48 GMT
#687
let's kill marvellosity.

Firstly:

he has 6 pages of almost nothing but aggressive one liners. He calls out DP for being aggressive and antitown, yet he's arguably been the most "aggressive" and antitown player all game. I chalked this up to him just being his normal town self, but something seems off in his reasoning this game. He seems artificially bold and he doesn't actually have good reasoning for anything that he's saying.

Indeed he just tried to use a position of authority on DP ("I got his alignment right before" bullshit) instead of actually furthering his case with evidence. When I asked for evidence that supports his claims, he just told me to fuck off. It's clear he's full of hot air and is just a scum flailing around trying to make accusations stick. His accusation on me clearly didn't stick after his half-assed shitty "contradiction" case. It was clear to anyone who was reading the thread that I am not scum, and only the bandwagon-happy and lazy players actually agreed with him.

Check this out:

On December 01 2012 10:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah and his questions this game are just as relevant as the questions in LI. Really don't see what's got you so convinced marv.


i take it i need to teach you how to read

here he throws out a bunch of questions he has no intention of following up on

in the first 24 hours of LI that you kindly linked, he interacts with town, has several posts, and asks at least 3 different players who they want to kill and who they think they are scum

gl finding the same thing this game


How does he know what I think based on one post I made at the time? He says I had no intention on following up on my questions, before i had posted anything. ??? He calls out Zealos at some point for misrepresentation, yet this is as shining of an example of misrepresentation as one could ever find.

##unvote Zealos
##vote marvellosity

Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#688
I don't like BH lynch. I don't think he is scum. He could be some form of 3 party, but espicially in a game like this when we have absolutely no idea if there even is any 3 parties, I'd much rather focus on hunting scum.

I obviously want to lynch DP.

I am okay with lynching ShiaoPi as well.

I don't like Zealos at all. His posts are all non-commital. He didn't really take any stance what so ever untill he was called out, at which point he posted a case on Xata who was under the most suspicion at the time. I'm quite willing to lynch Zealos also.

DI feels like a coin toss. I don't feel like I can read into anything of what he says really. He is null for me and I'd rather lynch someone else, tho I am okay with lynching him if there really is no other alternatives left.

Other players I don't really feel like lynching atm.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2012 21:10 GMT
#689
BH, recent votes. You were voting marv, then DP, then WBG, then "buying what WBG is selling" and back to DP, and are currently still on DP.

There's a lot of interaction between that whole group...marv pushing for DP recently, WBG/marv having a spat, WBG voting and pushing for marv. BH, try and unravel that whole ball of yarn if you would...where are your current thoughts on the entire group of marv/wbg/DP
Fe fi fo fum.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 01 2012 21:11 GMT
#690
##Unvote Dandel
##Vote Marv


I want to see your meta read marv. I've played with DP twice and the times he is town he goes aggro on someone. I found him scum d1 in Acme because of how uninvolved he was
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25554 Posts
December 01 2012 21:14 GMT
#691
Dunno about marv, I like WBG he is being entirely reasonable. DP is still scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 01 2012 21:15 GMT
#692
Austin! You've been posting suspicion on several players now but are yet to cast a vote. Who is, in your opinion, top second etc scum read?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 21:19 GMT
#693
Yeah, I wasn't taking the fact that deadline is fast approaching into account and wasn't considering votecounts and whatnot.

I'm gonna go do a votecount real quick hold up
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 01 2012 21:23 GMT
#694
On December 02 2012 06:11 debears wrote:
##Unvote Dandel
##Vote Marv


I want to see your meta read marv. I've played with DP twice and the times he is town he goes aggro on someone. I found him scum d1 in Acme because of how uninvolved he was


It's very hard to explain a feel meta-read on a guy. Bear in mind I've pretty much coached/hosted/played in every single game he's played in if I recall.

Town tells I pick up on his play are when he's lighthearted in the middle of otherwise serious discussions.

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 13 2012 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Lol marv scolding me is super cute.


On November 13 2012 15:57 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit after reading BH's case on ZB I thought he was Austin for a moment. 0_o


On November 13 2012 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:


HI ZB <3.

Yeah ZB will figure me out If I am scum, and Vice Versa. Hapa will figure marv out and marv will figure everyone out.

GG scummers


On October 22 2012 00:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 00:33 Z-BosoN wrote:
@DP
I have to go with marv here. This is something he is usually very strong on, from my talks with him - and he's generally right. He will also make this assessment as both town and scum, so it's pretty sure he means it (unless for some 0.005% ungodly reason they are both scum and marv told him to say something like that or w/e).
Scum are 10x more careful about what they say, even if they are new. Remember XXVIII? Almost everyone had some sort of flip-flop looking scummy relation with kush, except for the actual scum.
Anyways, I'm null leaning townie on drazak, and I don't think we should be voting for him, at least right now.


If I am right I am going to obnoxiously ungraceful about it. ^_^



On October 22 2012 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
Z-Bo, I love that you're wary of me and then you conclude your post with the two reads I had. Woe is me ^_^


If your alive day 2 we'll all be more than wary. Or scum could have been retarded and not shot you. But yeah. Better lynch you then anyway just to be safe. ROFL..



Other than the initial phase of trolling, I've not seen that here.

On Day 1s DP is also less aggressive than he's inclined to be as scum. More constructive, like I said. Look at his attitude here as town:

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 21 2012 09:11 DarthPunk wrote:
OK. It was a passing comment. Not a plan. And the reasoning I gave was not the primary motive for the comment. The primary motive was to just throw something out there and stimulate discussion. Mission Successful I guess. The reasoning I gave was the motive behind asking Role over just alignment.

People say that my reasoning is bad/ illogical. Fine. I disagree. But either way that you look at it, it was clearly town motivated.

That being said I, like others, Tend to believe at least one scum used that situation to hide and fake contribute in. Hapa's meta read aside. I find Drazak's actions difficult to reconcile with a townie mind set.

He jumped all to easily on perfections wagon and seemed to actually believe I was scum. Then when pressured, played it off as meaningless and stimulating discussion. Then when the pressure was back on me I am scum again.

He is all too obvious in moving with the sway of the thread rather than having his own beliefs and sticking to them/trying to convince others.

Furthermore. He dropped a vote that may/ may not have been in order to stimulate discussion parks it there and disappears. which is VERY silly in light of the lynch mechanics.


On October 21 2012 21:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Wow. I really suck at constructing sentences this late/ always. I hope you can understand WTF I am saying.


On October 21 2012 21:28 DarthPunk wrote:
For clarity.

Keirs play this game is similar to his early Liquid City play.

If his play doesn't improve as it did in that game I would take a closer look at him.

If I had to pick between a Keir Lynch and a V7 lynch I would lynch V7.


On October 21 2012 22:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Heh. I guess I should take another look.



On October 21 2012 23:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
Your vote on drazak is predicated on something I don't think is lynchable for though, DP.

austin explained it well enough earlier.


Really? I think voting for someone you think is town is a lynchable offense, The only reason that he is not getting lynched is that he is new and people are giving him the benefit of the doubt IMO.

I think Drazak is scum. I am not sure Keir is.


On October 21 2012 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
I apologise if my posting is bad/unclear I am pulling an all nighter to get my assignment in on time. And I am super tired.



Also remember in Mario he was quite apologetic for quite a while about being absent and busy, and was only later in the day he started getting aggressive as he felt he might get lynched.

Here he viciously attacks Lazermonkey (oh by the way, also in the quotes above are how he deals with scumreads day 1 - he's not sure!). Having treeated Xatalos 'protectively' he lays into Lazer and after shouting at him a lot finally says that he's not going to bother dealing with him anymore.

DP feels much more confident unilaterally calling things shit or retarded day 1 as scum because he knows people's alignments and he knows how the game is running and he has some sense of control. Unlike when he's town when on one hand he firmly believes in his reads but at the same time recognises that his reads are often wrong, and so he interacts with the town more on them.

Town DP I know doesn't call the whole town retarded when town is actually working to try to get somewhere.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 21:31:04
December 01 2012 21:26 GMT
#695
On December 02 2012 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I wasn't taking the fact that deadline is fast approaching into account and wasn't considering votecounts and whatnot.

I'm gonna go do a votecount real quick hold up

Thats my job VE, back off
Edit: I'm bad at my job, checking counts somethings wrong
Edit 2: Fixed (I think)



Day 1 Votecount


Xatalos (2)
Blazinghand, DoYouHas, VisceraEyes, Zealos

DoYouHas (1)
Xatalos, debears, MrZentor

marvellosity (2)
Ace, Blazinghand, wherebugsgo, debears

Lazermonkey (1)
wherebugsgo, DarthPunk

DarthPunk (3)<----Gonna get lynched
BlazingHand, Blazinghand, Lazermonkey, marvellosity

Blazinghand (2)
Ace, ShiaoPi

Zealos (2)
wherebugsgo, VisceraEyes, Xatalos

Not Voting (2)
austinmcc, Dandel Ion

Day ends in 1 hour and 35 minutes
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 01 2012 21:26 GMT
#696
On December 02 2012 05:48 wherebugsgo wrote:

Indeed he just tried to use a position of authority on DP ("I got his alignment right before" bullshit) instead of actually furthering his case with evidence. When I asked for evidence that supports his claims, he just told me to fuck off. It's clear he's full of hot air and is just a scum flailing around trying to make accusations stick. His accusation on me clearly didn't stick after his half-assed shitty "contradiction" case. It was clear to anyone who was reading the thread that I am not scum, and only the bandwagon-happy and lazy players actually agreed with him.



bugs, you're so silly. 'clear to everyone'.

Not clear at all, get off your high horse.

Pray tell me, why was it 'clear' you were not scum? What shining beacons of townplay had you brought forth?

Hmm, dear?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25554 Posts
December 01 2012 21:28 GMT
#697
I just wanna be clear here DP is always an aggressive guy as town or as scum. He's scummy but it's not because he's simply aggressive. It's how he's aggressive and how he's developed his reads and cases.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 01 2012 21:30 GMT
#698
##vote marvellosity

Think he's a better lynch than DP
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 21:30 GMT
#699
Boo, I was almost done too.

Ace, are you switching to marv? Because I'll join you on BH if not. Regardless, I'm going to read up on DP right now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 21:30 GMT
#700
Ninjaaaaaa
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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